something needs to be done re: flash photography

[earldw28]

OK. so it seems that "The Mom" has decided she didnt like the tone I was taking with you fine folks so she removed all of my well thought out retorts as well as removing the posts of some other folks who were less than cordial. Basically, nothing ever can or will be done about flash photography at Disney so live with it or dont go. I will be happy either way.:wave:

Only 5 more days to go!! I can see the flashes now.

 

[sbkline]

I think that the next time we go to WDW, I'm going to add an extra day to our vacation. On this extra day, I will devote my entire day to flushing out rulebreakers at WDW. I'll begin my day at one of the parks, patroling the turnstyles and checking IDs for all children who look like they may or may not be 3 years old. After exposing a satisfactory amount of abusers, I will then patrol the fastpass lines at some of the most popular rides in order to blow the whistle on fastpass abusers. Then, I will patrol the rides themselves for flash photography users. After a good half day of flushing out such heinous abusers at the parks, it will be time to go back to the resort for lunch. While at the foodcourt, I'll walk around and examine all mugs and make sure all of them have the correct year on them. If not, I'll be sure to very publically call attention to the violation so that everyone will notice the scumbag abusing the system and notice what a good citizen I am for bringing it to everyone's attention. After lunch and after mug patrol, it will be time for a relaxing afternoon at the pool, where I'll go around checking resort ID cards to make there are no pool hoppers present. Of course, if I find any violators, I'll pull out my handy dandy whistle and blow it like Gabriel's trumpet to shame the offenders back to their own resort where they belong. After patroling the pool for a while, it will be time to head back into one of the parks to patrol the electric wheelchairs for a while, to make sure everyone using them has a valid reason for doing so. This will take me to supper time where I'll sit down for a good meal and then patrol the room to make sure everyone is tipping the proper amount.

After a long day of patroling the parks and resort for violators, it will finally be time to go to bed, after patting myself on the back. My last thoughts before dozing off will be "what a good boy am I".

I wouldn't be surprised if they would even let me into the park for free the next day as a reward for my help in enforcing their rules.

 

[wvdisneyfamily]

I think that the next time we go to WDW, I'm going to add an extra day to our vacation. On this extra day, I will devote my entire day to flushing out rulebreakers at WDW. I'll begin my day at one of the parks, patroling the turnstyles and checking IDs for all children who look like they may or may not be 3 years old. After exposing a satisfactory amount of abusers, I will then patrol the fastpass lines at some of the most popular rides in order to blow the whistle on fastpass abusers. Then, I will patrol the rides themselves for flash photography users. After a good half day of flushing out such heinous abusers at the parks, it will be time to go back to the resort for lunch. While at the foodcourt, I'll walk around and examine all mugs and make sure all of them have the correct year on them. If not, I'll be sure to very publically call attention to the violation so that everyone will notice the scumbag abusing the system and notice what a good citizen I am for bringing it to everyone's attention. After lunch and after mug patrol, it will be time for a relaxing afternoon at the pool, where I'll go around checking resort ID cards to make there are no pool hoppers present. Of course, if I find any violators, I'll pull out my handy dandy whistle and blow it like Gabriel's trumpet to shame the offenders back to their own resort where they belong. After patroling the pool for a while, it will be time to head back into one of the parks to patrol the electric wheelchairs for a while, to make sure everyone using them has a valid reason for doing so. This will take me to supper time where I'll sit down for a good meal and then patrol the room to make sure everyone is tipping the proper amount.

After a long day of patroling the parks and resort for violators, it will finally be time to go to bed, after patting myself on the back. My last thoughts before dozing off will be "what a good boy am I".

I wouldn't be surprised if they would even let me into the park for free the next day as a reward for my help in enforcing their rules.

Would you like an assistant?

 

[sbkline]

Would you like an assistant?

Absolutely. Since I can only be in one place at a time, I will need at least 3 assistants...one for each park that I am not in. Of course, if I want to really snuff out mug offenders and pool hoppers, I'll need enough assistants to cover all of the resort hotels.

 

[MattyFresh]

Absolutely. Since I can only be in one place at a time, I will need at least 3 assistants...one for each park that I am not in. Of course, if I want to really snuff out mug offenders and pool hoppers, I'll need enough assistants to cover all of the resort hotels.

I am your man.....you point to which park and I am there.

Now lets discuss salary....:lookaroun

 

[sbkline]

I am your man.....you point to which park and I am there.

Now lets discuss salary....:lookaroun

There is no salary. The great feeling of pride in being a good rule follower and in making sure everyone else knows it, along with making sure you expose the perpetrators of such dastardly deeds, is more than payment enough. No amount of money can compare to the pats on the back that you will receive from yourself and your peers.

 

[bidnow5]

Years ago before the days of digital cameras I had a guy behind me taking literally dozens of photos in SSE. I kept asking him to stop but he could have cared less.
I had a professional flash and just before we turned around at the top I aimed it right in his face and hit the test button and blinded him real good he didn't take any more photo's after that

 

[WDWFigment]

Perhaps I am an absolute idiot, but I think sbkline was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick.

While I would normally agree with that sarcasm in that things like lying about ones child's age don't affect others, etc., using a flash on dark rides does (in certain circumstances). If you've ever waited in line for 60 minutes only to sit near someone taking flash pictures on your only trip to WDW in any given year, I think you might be a little upset, too. The flash reveals aspects of the attraction you wouldn't otherwise see (given that Disney doesn't disclose rationale for its yearly increases, and probably would increase costs independent of rule-breakers). At worst, people lying about their child's age only slightly raises costs for everyone else--hardly the same type of direct affect that is likely to upset the average vacationer. Not everything is about arbitrarily wanting to make sure rules are stringently enforced (I know, often it seems that's the case with the moral authority around here...). Sometimes, the enforcement of said rules has a substantive impact on the vacations of others, not just Disney's financial situation.

 

[The Mom]

OK. so it seems that "The Mom" has decided she didnt like the tone I was taking with you fine folks so she removed all of my well thought out retorts as well as removing the posts of some other folks who were less than cordial. Basically, nothing ever can or will be done about flash photography at Disney so live with it or dont go. I will be happy either way.:wave:

Only 5 more days to go!! I can see the flashes now.

Had this been your initial response (minus the mention of my moderating) none of your posts would have been deleted, and the argument would have been avoided.

 

[NEmickeyfan]

Guys, could you please express a difference of opinion without using personal attacks, being rude, etc? Thank you.

Thanks, Mom, for sheparding us back to what this thread is about.... mainly discussion. Normally, when I get irritated at a post, I just close it and go look at the pretty pictures. In retrospect, I should not have make a comment about a post that I felt was "undisneylike". For that I apologize. I am a rule follower...(actually more like guidelines that actual rules)... and the visitors that use flash in places that they are asked not can be upsetting. Bottom line, we cannot change people's behavior, but we most certainly can come here and discuss it.

 

[Figments Friend]

Ever since consumer digital cameras came around suddenly EVERYONE thinks they are a photographer. I remember a decade ago when I was the only one I knew who carried a (film) camera everywhere, including school, and people thought I was nuts.

It seems that when technology comes along, etiquette goes out the window. Cell phones and digital cameras being used at inappropriate times boils my blood.

Well Said!

:sohappy:

I am also considered a 'nut' as i am one of the few left who still insist on using a FILM camera. I just shot a bunch of sites at WDW and people near me were freaking out when they heard my cameras motor going off ( to forward the film). They were all like 'Oh my Gawd!! I remember that sound! That is so totally Old School!!"

Yeah,..... i feel really old now........ :lol:

I never use my flash however when in a attraction like Pirates, or the other dark rides On Property. The only time i will use a flash to shoot a particular AA figure or scene is when i am ALONE on the ride and it will not bother anyone, or take away from their ride experience. A good example is JIIwF...the two AA's i have both shot with flash but i was alone during one of the last rides of the night. I will never shoot with a flash in a attraction that plainly forbids it, like The American Adventure or The Haunted Mansion. Last thing i wanna do is irratate the Ghosts.....

:lookaroun

 

[PhotoDave219]

If Disney really wanted to make life difficult, all they'd have to do is to optically slave a dedicated flash aimed back at the offender's camera..... albeit not a very Disneylike thing to do.

Gotta say I've been tempted to do it....

 

[PhotoDave219]

Ever since consumer digital cameras came around suddenly EVERYONE thinks they are a photographer. I remember a decade ago when I was the only one I knew who carried a (film) camera everywhere, including school, and people thought I was nuts.

It seems that when technology comes along, etiquette goes out the window. Cell phones and digital cameras being used at inappropriate times boils my blood.

Yeah, its completely devalued the market. Quality photography is not cheap.