Disney(World) vs. Disney(land)?

CinematicFusion

Well-Known Member
The construct of your argument is contradictory. You say that the same people in government are the same people on Wall Street in the sense that they are "ego driven, greedy, [and] bought". This is largely true, but can be attributed to a lack of regulation that would otherwise prevent that from being the case. Furthermore, as you say yourself, people are flawed and can be greedy. So is it in everyone's self-interest that "big government", however corrupt it be, should cease to exist and let these greedy people work without any regulation? If so, take a look at laissez-faire economics of the early 20th century. Rockefeller, Carnegie and all of the other monopolistic bigwigs displayed "rugged individualism", at the expense of the everyday Joe. Of course government isn't perfect, but at the very least it puts speed bumps in what would otherwise be an endless upwards flow of monetary capital to folks like Rockefeller, Jamie Dimon, or even Bob Iger. (This post isn't "socialist", this is precisely what is taught in Economics 101...which is the exact class that I had today!)

More on topic, corporations are making more money than ever before, and Disney is consistently churning out great financial performance. Perhaps now is the time to reinvest those profits, particularly at Walt Disney World where it is bleeding market share. To fix itself, the entire management structure needs to change, and particularly Parks and Resorts should give itself a good look in the mirror and decide what to do. It can take a short-term financial hit and right the wrongs, for the sake of its long-term value. Or it can look at the next batch of quarterly earnings and decide to continue the status quo and keep putting on band aids when major surgery is needed. I would be hard-pressed to find someone that disagrees that WDW's current business model (should one exist) is running itself into the ground.

When I say rugged individualism I'm pointing at the individual...such as yourself...as in you must do it on your own. I'm not speaking of economic theory. I believe no one is there to help you unless you have something to offer in return with the exception of your family. Im not speaking of philanthropic endeavors when I say that. There are many willing to give from their heart, I'm talking about hiring someone for a job. People aren't out there just to give out jobs for the sake of giving out jobs. Doesn't work that way. You must invest in yourself and be as talented as you can possible be...keep climbing that ladder of knowledge, very powerful tool. People hire you based on what you can give them, you will do the same when you have your own business.

My post isn't contradictory, it's a fact. Wall street and government aren't run by machines....they are run by people. Peolpe are flawed and can be manipulated. Those in government aren't saints and those on wall street aren't devils. They all have families, kids, moms with cancer, cousins who have passed away, daughters getting married. Realities of life. People are working to give their families the best they can. That is goal number one, everything else is secondary.
I won't get into wall street, sounds like you can list off many a problem. Big government isnt any better and can get just as bloated and corrupt. People in government are bought all the time, that's how they get elected. They run on other peoples money, that can lead to many a problem in and of itself. The presidents are bought, they spend big money to have you believe they will make your life better. Really? Obama spent 750 Million in 08 so he could get your vote. Said he would make your life better. Did he? Romney and Obama will do the same this year. Someone else will be there 4 years from now. All saying the same thing. They aren't making your life better....they are working their off making their life better. These are both rich and powerful men. They are both showing my definition of do it yourself rugged individualism and pushing themselves to become the greatest men they can be.
Goes for the house and senate...those are very powerful individuals who's average net worth I believe is 15 million, that is across party lines. They live in a completely different reality and their secondary job is to get re-elected...not to make your life better. Yet they aren't evil, they all have families and regular everyday family problems...which is their number one concern, their family. Second is re-election.
You as an individual must control your own destiny, be the very best at what and who you want to be. Know yourself and know your material and never stop learning.
Walt Disney was a man with that do it yourself spirit, George Lucas, Steve jobs, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates, any mom and pop who opens a restaurant...and yes John D Rockefeller.

Don't forget Rockefeller donated something like 80 million dollars in 1900 to start the university of Chicago. George Lucas donated 200 million to his old school. I don't look at George lucas and want to regulate him, I want to encourage others to be lke him.

I apologize for jumping off topic. Views expressed are my opinion only. Everyone has their own path they must take.
 

Longhairbear

Well-Known Member
No digital domain the effects house/ the one in agoura hills as of mid april isn't being built. It's supposed to be built in Manhattan beach but nothing has begun on the Lightstorm building yet
Interesting, that's what I get for not reading the Agoura Acorn online.LOL I have to catch up, and make some phone calls.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Again you are so sure they aren't doing it for this reason yet can't offer any feasible reasons that match the known info. You also overlook initiatives that are discussed as happening inside the company from reliable sources.

And using the definition of legal or not as your advisor on how to run a business is a miserable leadership strategy. You'll find if you put your moral compass first, you won't find laws rarely block your strategies but rather guide you in what things you must do along the way.

Legal or not should never be a concern in a culture or business strategy planning - and if it is, your doing it wrong.
I've obviously done a very poor job of explaining my position and to try to explain further will likely not result in any change in the discussion.
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
A few of you are crossing the line into politics, which I know is easy to do since economics and politics are so closely interwoven. But please try to walk the line, or I will have to do a lot more editing. Thank you.

And please stop dragging every WDW fansite out there into your arguments - I have enough to do with refereeing wdwmagic members, thank you very much. ;)
 

CinematicFusion

Well-Known Member
I still think we will see another major attraction in the parks by 2016. Looks like Disney is putting a sharp eye on DHS. I'm sure we will here a big announcement next year at D3
 

Ruthie1

New Member
Thanks for the referee comments, am exhausted from the conventions,,,Go Mickey Mouse. Moral compass in business remark much appreciated......
 

tomman710

Well-Known Member
I'm hoping WDW is planning on doing something spectacular for the 50th in 2021. Come what may, I'm pretty sure I'll still be vacationing at WDW in 2021.:)

2021 is only 9 years away ... so in that time we can expect two major announcements with concept art that get quietly ignored before any ground work is done, new castle show, and a D-ticket at DHS.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
How much does an attraction sponsorship cost? Could we use Kickstarter to put together the funds to sponsor something like the Imagination Pavilion? Just imagine, Imagination Presented by the Users of WDWMagic and Friends.

How about Splash instead? We could just get some of the members around here to dress up as the characters and act out the scenes instead of fixing AAs. I call dibs on brer bear.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Believe me... They have ample plans. At Least 2 attractions in each park could groundbreak next week.

Wow. Seriously or are you just joking around? That's like dangling a juicy steak in front of a starving dog. They don't have to have a groundbreaking next week, but I would love to at least hear about something concrete other than adding seats to a theater. That would be a great start.
 

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