Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

[Wilt Dasney]

Indy and Star Tours at DL are the only things keeping me from completely ruling out the possibility that a Marvel attraction could work in an MK-style park. They sound unsuitable to someone who's only been to WDW and comes with a mindset of "Disney characters at MK, non-Disney characters at Studios." (That's not a shot at Evan, because that was me for a long time; WDW conditions you to think that way.)

But they really fit the surroundings well...especially Indy. It really is the epitome of a top-notch Adventureland attraction out there. From the amazing queue to the ride itself, not a single thing about it feels "off" in the context of A-Land. I can't think of any part of DCA that would be a better host for that ride than Adventureland is.

 

[SirGoofy]

But they really fit the surroundings well...especially Indy. It really is the epitome of a top-notch Adventureland attraction out there. From the amazing queue to the ride itself, not a single thing about it feels "off" in the context of A-Land. I can't think of any part of DCA that would be a better host for that ride than Adventureland is.

Quit torturing me!

Seriously, Aland at Disneyland is THE best land at a Disney park, IMO.

 

[WDW1974]

I think this deal is purely about Disney expanding their reach as a media powerhouse, adding to their television, movie, theme park, and overall entertainment muscle. That's all it is. If you have the extra money to acquire one of the top names in a business that relates, why not do it? They've done it before with ABC.

That said, I think it is kind of a bizarre match, and somewhat strange deal considering the limited options Disney has (at present) with some of the major properties in regards to movies and theme parks, what I would say are Disney's two core businesses.

I agree in large part.

I think it was a smart business move, very much like ABC/Cap Cities. But unlike Pixar, which always was viewed by many folks as part of Disney anyway, there is a culture clash.

Still, this should pay off in the long run ... in some cases, very long runs. But there are still plenty of ways to leverage Marvel's characters.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

Ugh...don't tell me that. I live in denial

So tempting to make a joke...

Either that or I'm planning how I'll get it done when I make it high enough in the company.:lol:

I know, I'm the exact same way. I still am enchanted by the image of the Indy show building with the JC and Railroad running through it... What a way for our Kingdom to one-up Disneyland! (As it should be! :lol: )

 

[WDW1974]

The real Disney company died with Walt and Roy. Let Stan Lee and George Lucas take the reigns now and shepard us into a new utopia!

That's so incredibly untrue. Absurd.

Disney was about so much more than Walt and Roy. What about his Nine Old Men? Or the WED greats that built WDW, EPCOT Center, DLP etc? The animators and artists and engineers that created worlds of fantasy on film and in concrete? Many whom are Disney Lengends now ... and others who are waiting to be?

I guess they meant nothing. It was all Walt and Roy.

Statements like the above come off as crazy fanboi talk. You're excited about Marvel? Fine. But take it down a notch ... or 10.

Stan Lee is a great talent and a fine man. He's also 86 years old. And George Lucas? He almost destroyed his franchises by coming back to them so late and with mediocre to godawful films. I wouldn't want him anywhere near a major Disney project.

 

[SirGoofy]

So tempting to make a joke...

I'm glad you got it. You are officially smarter than 99% of the guests.:lol:

I know, I'm the exact same way. I still am enchanted by the image of the Indy show building with the JC and Railroad running through it... What a way for our Kingdom to one-up Disneyland! (As it should be! :lol: )[/size][/font]

Yup. There's no reason it can't happen.

 

[SirGoofy]

That's so incredibly untrue. Absurd.

Disney was about so much more than Walt and Roy. What about his Nine Old Men? Or the WED greats that built WDW, EPCOT Center, DLP etc? The animators and artists and engineers that created worlds of fantasy on film and in concrete? Many whom are Disney Lengends now ... and others who are waiting to be?

I guess they meant nothing. It was all Walt and Roy.

Statements like the above come off as crazy fanboi talk. You're excited about Marvel? Fine. But take it down a notch ... or 10.

Stan Lee is a great talent and a fine man. He's also 86 years old. And George Lucas? He almost destroyed his franchises by coming back to them so late and with mediocre to godawful films. I wouldn't want him anywhere near a major Disney project.

'74...he's insane. If anyone should know that, it's you.:lol:

 

[Studios Fan]

I agree in large part.

I think it was a smart business move, very much like ABC/Cap Cities. But unlike Pixar, which always was viewed by many folks as part of Disney anyway, there is a culture clash.

Still, this should pay off in the long run ... in some cases, very long runs. But there are still plenty of ways to leverage Marvel's characters.

I agree as well. Hopefully they let Marvel be Marvel in the comics, and leverage the Disney brand thru licensing, the parks, etc..

 

[WDW1974]

'74...he's insane. If anyone should know that, it's you.:lol:

Yeah. I guess it's come out that he and JT are more compatible.:ROFLOL:

I am excited myself about the prospects Marvel could bring to Disney. I just feel this insane back and forth about it does nothing but diminish the site.

I almost get the feeling that many folks here are bigger Marvel fans than Disney fans. That's perfectly fine, but they need to get what the deal does and does not mean. And I have no issue with Disney using the characters in their parks. It would be foolish not to. But not DL, not ANY MK park and never EPCOT. DCA maybe ... TPFKaTD-MGMS down the line ... maybe DSP too.

But these threads ... do we have a guy hanging himself smiley?

 

[The Conundrum]

I agree in large part.

I think it was a smart business move, very much like ABC/Cap Cities. But unlike Pixar, which always was viewed by many folks as part of Disney anyway, there is a culture clash.

Still, this should pay off in the long run ... in some cases, very long runs. But there are still plenty of ways to leverage Marvel's characters.

That was a horrible acquisition

 

[The Conundrum]

Indy and Star Tours at DL are the only things keeping me from completely ruling out the possibility that a Marvel attraction could work in an MK-style park. They sound unsuitable to someone who's only been to WDW and comes with a mindset of "Disney characters at MK, non-Disney characters at Studios." (That's not a shot at Evan, because that was me for a long time; WDW conditions you to think that way.)

But they really fit the surroundings well...especially Indy. It really is the epitome of a top-notch Adventureland attraction out there. From the amazing queue to the ride itself, not a single thing about it feels "off" in the context of A-Land. I can't think of any part of DCA that would be a better host for that ride than Adventureland is.

How do you explain Pixar? and im assuming your not counting the merchandise because they got hanna montanna and nightmare before christmas.

Oh and just so you know, Star Tours was originally planned for MK when they decided to clone it in Orlando. But since MGM studios was under construction and needed stuff to draw people in naturally they relocated the plans to MGM.

 

[SirGoofy]

I almost get the feeling that many folks here are bigger Marvel fans than Disney fans. That's perfectly fine, but they need to get what the deal does and does not mean. And I have no issue with Disney using the characters in their parks. It would be foolish not to. But not DL, not ANY MK park and never EPCOT. DCA maybe ... TPFKaTD-MGMS down the line ... maybe DSP too.

Personally, I've just been doing a lot of dreaming. Iger has already said he wants new rides to promote synery, which frightens me. I only see rides filled with pixie dust and butterflies, and this acquisition just gives me some hope that there will be something new for the adult man to do at Disney.:lol:

But these threads ... do we have a guy hanging himself smiley?

No...I think this is supposed to symbolize that feeling: :hammer:

 

[WDW1974]

That was a horrible acquisition

No. It was a great one. Disney hasn't run ABC the best it could ... but buying the network (which also included ESPN and all it brought) was one of the best things Eisner did for the long-term health and viability of Disney.

The market value of the combined company dwarfed what Disney was worth alone ... and it made Disney a complete media powerhouse, instead of a studio with cable channel, theme parks and resorts, a retail chain and an NHL team.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

I'm glad you got it. You are officially smarter than 99% of the guests.:lol:

Yeah, I've always wanted to take a whack at being a skipper. :lol:

Yup. There's no reason it can't happen.

Throw in an Adventurers Club that overlooks the Jungle, the Temple, and the Treehouse, and is accessible from the Seven Seas Lagoon Walkway to Nowhere, and you might as well rename it Awesomeland.

I agree in large part.

I think it was a smart business move, very much like ABC/Cap Cities. But unlike Pixar, which always was viewed by many folks as part of Disney anyway, there is a culture clash.

Still, this should pay off in the long run ... in some cases, very long runs. But there are still plenty of ways to leverage Marvel's characters.

Oh, I have no doubt that it will rake in the moolah for Disney down the line. It's just so... surreal. It just doesn't seem natural like ABC and Pixar did. It kind of warps Disney's overall identity in a way that I'm not sure I like, even if I've enjoyed Marvel's movies and rides.

 

[Hrudey3032]

To answer a earlier question.I thought Walt Disney movie studios was making a Toy Story 3 movie without Pixar after they couldn't agree on a deal for distributing movies.Then all the sudden the 2 companies merged.So I was under the impression that the Pixar characters were Disney intellectual property as they were taking over the reins of TS3.Thankfully that didn't happen and the 2 are now one.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

How do you explain Pixar?

Same way I did here. They've been attached to the culture of Disney for a decade and a half, regardless of who used to own what.

 

[SirGoofy]

Throw in an Adventurers Club that overlooks the Jungle, the Temple, and the Treehouse, and is accessible from the Seven Seas Lagoon Walkway to Nowhere, and you might as well rename it Awesomeland.

I feel that would be too awesome for guests, and their brains would literally shoot out of the back of their skulls.

 

[WV_Jayola]

I don't mind to be in the minority when i state this :

i hope disney DOES strong-arm Universal out of the rights.


jeff.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

I feel that would be too awesome for guests, and their brains would literally shoot out of the back of their skulls.

:ROFLOL:

Excellent, I think we've devised the perpetual awesome machine, exponentially creating more awesome as it operates.

I think they'd have to make that the new entrance to the park, to screen out Guests who aren't awesome enough to visit. If you survive, if your brain can handle the awesomeness, you're okay.

 

[SirGoofy]

:ROFLOL:

Excellent, I think we've devised the perpetual awesome machine, exponentially creating more awesome as it operates.

I think they'd have to make that the new entrance to the park, to screen out Guests who aren't awesome enough to visit. If you survive, if your brain can handle the awesomeness, you're okay.

:ROFLOL:

Agree, make it so.

But in all honesty, Aland could easily be the best land in MK if they wanted it to be. In my opinion it offers so many more opportunities than the others.