World of Color in EPCOT?????

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I am very happy to have the "World of Color" show be exclusive to DCA. It works with the surroundings of the park, and sitting in the Cove Bar getting a drink and lobster nachos during the show is great. After a long day of riding Forbidden Eye and Soarin' with the short line, it is one of my favorite things to do.

Oh, a Disney fan after my own heart! Nice to see some folks here who get around a bit outside of Florida, and know where the other fun is to be had. :wave:

I do like the idea of using the WOC technology in Future World to bring some kinetic energy to that area of the park after sundown. I'm not sure that sort of thing would have the marketing impact of say a traditional show at specific showtimes, but it would certainly be a great way to plus up Future World.
 

Longhairbear

Well-Known Member
I love WOC, and have seen it many times. The experience might not fit well in the Fantazmic seating area. At WOC you are forced to look up at times, and from side to side. The high seats at Fantazmic would not get that experience. Also the seats surround the lagoon. WOC fills your site lines and you have to look one way or the other to catch everything.
WOC brings in a lot of cash for the restaurants giving out passes with the WOC menus. I'm sure DTD would want this show to fill the restaurants on a daily, and nightly basis. AT WOC, you eat at any time, and return for the show with the passes you got earlier. It could boost DTD daytime spending. We've never been to DTD during daylight, so I have no idea how busy it is during the day.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
I love WOC, and have seen it many times. The experience might not fit well in the Fantazmic seating area. At WOC you are forced to look up at times, and from side to side. The high seats at Fantazmic would not get that experience. Also the seats surround the lagoon. WOC fills your site lines and you have to look one way or the other to catch everything.
WOC brings in a lot of cash for the restaurants giving out passes with the WOC menus. I'm sure DTD would want this show to fill the restaurants on a daily, and nightly basis. AT WOC, you eat at any time, and return for the show with the passes you got earlier. It could boost DTD daytime spending. We've never been to DTD during daylight, so I have no idea how busy it is during the day.

This is exactly what I was thinking. If WoC was brought to DtD, even though they would essentially be giving the show away for free it doesn't mean that they can't have a premium viewing area that you had access to for booking a dinner package at one of the participating restaurants down there. Talk about a boost to capacity at the restuarants.

I personally would be upset if they shuttered Fantasmic in exchange for a WoC show. WDW has twice as many parks and probably sees 3 times as many visitors as Disneyland...you would think our resort would be able to support 2 big ticket night time shows like that.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
How about this--

In Epcot. Not the lagoon.

Use the other waterway areas in Future World.

I HATE the "show" of WoC. Love the post show where the fountains are just dang pretty.

I could see the technology being used as sustained atmosphere much like the big fountain in FW. Add some brilliant music and theming, and the kinetic energy of future world explodes with brilliance.

Yep, the technology works perfect for FW and would be a great addition. Also far cheaper than the DCA version because it would be a much smaller installation. But as part of a reworking of the plaza this would be a major upgrade to FW. Thinking this through, by removing the canopy and pin trading station they could move the stage to the opposite side of the fountain for either a regular show or seasonal offerings with the fountains acting as a backdrop. Then they could remove the old stage completely so the fountains can fully function. Add further lighting, lasers, projections on SSE etc and Epcot could have a show that far surpasses ElecTRONica.
 

Gregoryp73

Active Member
Or...not. At all.

I know i'm going to get flamed for this one, but....

They may be able to adjust the indiana jones stunt spectacular to have a little more seating. (I think indy is about 2600-2800 and the WOC is 4900?)
and then build the tank and water area in where the stage is now.

They've had problems with ISS (and it's dated), and this way they could have most of the traffic in the park toward the entrance during the night-time between the two shows. Also it may relieve some pressure from Fantasmic.

The only downfall is the lack of any indy in the park (although I would prefer a ride to a show for this brand anyday).
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
I know i'm going to get flamed for this one, but....

They may be able to adjust the indiana jones stunt spectacular to have a little more seating. (I think indy is about 2600-2800 and the WOC is 4900?)
and then build the tank and water area in where the stage is now.

They've had problems with ISS (and it's dated), and this way they could have most of the traffic in the park toward the entrance during the night-time between the two shows. Also it may relieve some pressure from Fantasmic.

The only downfall is the lack of any indy in the park (although I would prefer a ride to a show for this brand anyday).

I likey. Mucho.
 
So I dyed a little on the inside when I saw the title of this thread....:dazzle:

I do believe that Illuminations needs an update and could benefit from the I technology that is used in WOC but placing a direct copy of WOC in Epcot wouldn't make sense as many have said here. I think that DCA needs WOC to remain exclusive to that park, other wise Disney wasted 1.5 billion to make it a unique experience.....
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I know i'm going to get flamed for this one, but....

They may be able to adjust the indiana jones stunt spectacular to have a little more seating. (I think indy is about 2600-2800 and the WOC is 4900?)
and then build the tank and water area in where the stage is now.

They've had problems with ISS (and it's dated), and this way they could have most of the traffic in the park toward the entrance during the night-time between the two shows. Also it may relieve some pressure from Fantasmic.

The only downfall is the lack of any indy in the park (although I would prefer a ride to a show for this brand anyday).

That's not a bad idea at all. If they switch to the standing room approach that they have at DCA they'd presumably be able to fit more people into the area. The thing with Indy though is that it's kind of a tight fit. Here are some size comparisons between the two locations:

IndianaJones.jpg


WorldofColor.jpg
 
Well, having WoC at DHS does make sense thematically. However, I can't see them spending time and money to transform IJ into a stadium for WoC. Now you have one park, with two theaters that can be used only for a few shows at night. And with Fantasmic still being a draw, I would put this in the category of long shot.

As for the continued support for AK, I agree a show would be great, but given the parks hours, and need for more attractions, I don't believe that building a theater for a nighttime show would be high on the list for this park. I believe any would first be spent on new attractions (for the record, I love AK and think its great, so the need for more attractions is not a knock on it!)

That leads me back to DtD. In response to the free show vs DL, I don't see this as a problem. Any show at DtD would have to be free, in my opinion. If you charged for it, it would be very difficult to balance how many tickets to sell to public vs reserve for guests. And no resort or park guest would pay an additional fee to go see a show at DtD, when they can see one in the parks with their admission. So, my guess would be a free show, with no restrictions on entry, meaning not in a stadium.

As for upsetting people in DL, thats a valid point. Why should people in Orlando get a free show, where DL have to be in the park to see it? I guess DtD is almost like an experiment. If they do open this show, and see increased traffic (and revenue) from it, you can bet your bottom dollar that a similar area will one day appear at DL! The two parks are never equal, as they are both always growing and changing at different rates, learning from the other park!
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
Well, having WoC at DHS does make sense thematically. However, I can't see them spending time and money to transform IJ into a stadium for WoC. Now you have one park, with two theaters that can be used only for a few shows at night. And with Fantasmic still being a draw, I would put this in the category of long shot.

As for the continued support for AK, I agree a show would be great, but given the parks hours, and need for more attractions, I don't believe that building a theater for a nighttime show would be high on the list for this park. I believe any would first be spent on new attractions (for the record, I love AK and think its great, so the need for more attractions is not a knock on it!)

That leads me back to DtD. In response to the free show vs DL, I don't see this as a problem. Any show at DtD would have to be free, in my opinion. If you charged for it, it would be very difficult to balance how many tickets to sell to public vs reserve for guests. And no resort or park guest would pay an additional fee to go see a show at DtD, when they can see one in the parks with their admission. So, my guess would be a free show, with no restrictions on entry, meaning not in a stadium.

As for upsetting people in DL, thats a valid point. Why should people in Orlando get a free show, where DL have to be in the park to see it? I guess DtD is almost like an experiment. If they do open this show, and see increased traffic (and revenue) from it, you can bet your bottom dollar that a similar area will one day appear at DL! The two parks are never equal, as they are both always growing and changing at different rates, learning from the other park!

Disneyland already has a Downtown Disney area, albeit a smaller one, and I believe that lack of real estate would prevent much expansion of DTD Disneyland let alone adding an amphitheater revenue to the area. Most expansion is going to be theme park related over there unless they are able to aquire more land.

Also, nobody is saying that WoC is coming to DtD or WDW, but elements and tech from the show. If they do a show utilizing the tech but not on quite the same scale (or length...think a couple shorter performances each night verses one or two grand performances) I don't think there will be a Coast to Coast Issue. Plus as I mentioned early, just because DtD has free access doesn't mean they can't charge for a dinner package and have a VIP Prime Viewing area that must be reserved.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
If the DCA/DLR people were going to be mad about a WoC clone at DHS, they would be 17 times as mad about a WoC style show going to DtD for free!
I`d be surprised if it were free. Posters above are right; there is no way the show could go in Buena Vista Lagoon.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
I`d be surprised if it were free. Posters above are right; there is no way the show could go in Buena Vista Lagoon.

Thought so. Would love to see some of the tech used throughout the entire resort though. As some have mentioned, the moat near Cinderella Castle combined with the MMY projections and fireworks would make one hell of an evening spectacular! JT's thought on on using some fountains in the ponds just south of Future World would add to the atmosphere, as well as small water features throughout the Amphitheater area of HW...should the Amphitheater area still be on the horizon for that area. The possibilities are endless with utilizing some of the tech from WoC!
 

GrumpyFan

Well-Known Member
Why not re-design the Fantasmic show arena and implement a smaller version of WOC there? They could remove the island/mountain and make it fill most of the lagoon. That show has grown old and stale and the arena will supposedly seat 6,500 and allow for up to 2,500 standing.
 

CrescentLake

Well-Known Member
I'm loving that there is at least something brewing in the rumor mill, but do we know where this is in the process towards being green-lit? Is this one of the inevitable announcements we'll get at D23?

(For that matter, what can we expect at D23?)
 

JustInTime

Well-Known Member
Or...not. At all.

Yeah right. So what other park has major traffic flow problems to the "right" that would be worse with World Of Color? Not DHS with Tower of Terror, Rock and Roller Coaster and Fantasmic? Please, enlighten me with a park that has a worse flow problem that you could be talking about. :rolleyes:
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
That would be so cool! It looks really good and I'd like to see them change Illuminations soon.

I still don't get all the crazy talk like this. Why would anyone want changes to IllumiNations or be ok with losing Fantasmic? Why would you not want all of the current offerings plus this new show idea.

And for the record IllumiNations is epic and timeless! it's factual.
 

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