This is why I hate college!!!!!

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DisneyMusician2

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Not at all true.

If kids can't formulate their own opinions on the world around them by college, they should not be there.

You don't think someone in college should have to hear about something that they don't already know?

You don't think they need to meet someone with a conflicting point of view?

Getting prepared for living and working out in the world is such a horrible thing.

Come on.

As much as the prof is obviously an idiot, I would have to agree with these sentiments. Adults should learn to discriminate and deal with people they might find unsavory.

I've had to listen to plenty of people over my degrees that I disagreed with. You give them what they want, get your credit, and leave. Spend time on your own independent research with the professors whose views you would choose to follow.
 

Wilt Dasney

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I don't know if this point was made but after reading OP I was moved to type.

This prof. is a Marxist. :hurl: :mad: That's the issue; not the fact he holds Walt Disney in such low esteem. Get him fired. He's there to teach not influence.

No ideology, perhaps in history, has caused more human suffering than those base upon Marxist or Communist ideals.

I happily add, "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow . . . ."

Karl Marx is said to have remarked he'd never become a Marxist. :lol:
 

MaxPower

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Monmouth University in NJ

Since he's a Marxist, why don't you ask him to return some of his salary (most likely 6 figures) so that it can be used to help students stressed by our recent economic downturn pay for tuition?

To which he will almost surely respond in patronizing tone with something to the effect of - "I'm afraid you just don't understand..."
 

TalkingHead

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Since he's a Marxist, why don't you ask him to return some of his salary (most likely 6 figures) so that it can be used to help students stressed by our recent economic downturn pay for tuition?

To which he will almost surely respond in patronizing tone with something to the effect of - "I'm afraid you just don't understand..."

I'm afraid you just don't understand. Most college profs in the humanities don't have six-figure salaries, even if they have tenure.

Looks like you're uninformed.
 

TikiBeckie

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Obviously your professor is an idiot, and should not be teaching. ALL teachers have their strengths and weaknesses, some have more than others...this guy should not be teaching anything.
 

philsfan2185

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Figment632, sorry to hear about such a bummer of a situation. That's good that you stood up for what you believe in. I would have done the same thing. This guy must have been neglected as a child. Every university has fools like that guy, so don't sweat it. Definitly don't let him get away with it, especially if other students have complaints about him. If I were you, I would go into the classroom before one of his classes and draw tiny mickey silhouettes all over the board :lookaroun
 

yankspy

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I don't know if this point was made but after reading OP I was moved to type.

This prof. is a Marxist. :hurl: :mad: That's the issue; not the fact he holds Walt Disney in such low esteem. Get him fired. He's there to teach not influence.

No ideology, perhaps in history, has caused more human suffering than those base upon Marxist or Communist ideals.

I happily add, "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow . . . ."
I thought teaching was influencing. If a teacher is merely supposed to regurgitate some facts you might as well read an encyclopedia and save yourself some money. This particular gentleman seems to be an extremist. That is the issue. Extremists are generally dangerous, no matter whose side they are on.
I'm afraid you just don't understand. Most college profs in the humanities don't have six-figure salaries, even if they have tenure.

Looks like you're uninformed.
You beat me to it. I have several friends who are tenured and none of them make six figures. One of them is actually a dept. head and he is still shy of that amount.
 

TalkingHead

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I thought teaching was influencing. If a teacher is merely supposed to regurgitate some facts you might as well read an encyclopedia and save yourself some money. This particular gentleman seems to be an extremist. That is the issue. Extremists are generally dangerous, no matter whose side they are on.

Based on the OP's story, I would call him unreasonable. But then again, I wasn't in the classroom, and there's a chance that the OP isn't reporting all the facts. What reasons did he give for comparing Disney to Hitler? I doubt he simply circulated the list without explaining his reasoning. No question there are some looney profs, but I'm skeptical about this story.

However, I agree with everything else you said. People who think that college professors shouldn't inject their opinions in class discussions obviously have no idea how college classrooms operate. I would submit to you it's only called "indoctrination" when someone disagrees with the opinion of the prof. Otherwise it's called "a good, sound education."
 
report the teacher's conduct to the school ethics board, carbon copy the letter to the prseident of the university, the dean of the college, the state head of higher education and at least two tv stations.

That putz needs to lose his job. As a college teacher, it is my duty to help my students learn about the world and about FACT. This teacher needs to be fired.

Drop his class...someone that ignorant will never give you a fair shake at getting a good grade in his class.

Best of luck.
 

TalkingHead

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report the teacher's conduct to the school ethics board, carbon copy the letter to the prseident of the university, the dean of the college, the state head of higher education and at least two tv stations.

That putz needs to lose his job. As a college teacher, it is my duty to help my students learn about the world and about FACT. This teacher needs to be fired.

Drop his class...someone that ignorant will never give you a fair shake at getting a good grade in his class.

Best of luck.

I'm guessing you don't teach in a humanities department, where it's well known that fact is subjective. :)
 

Figment632

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Based on the OP's story, I would call him unreasonable. But then again, I wasn't in the classroom, and there's a chance that the OP isn't reporting all the facts. What reasons did he give for comparing Disney to Hitler? I doubt he simply circulated the list without explaining his reasoning. No question there are some looney profs, but I'm skeptical about this story.

However, I agree with everything else you said. People who think that college professors shouldn't inject their opinions in class discussions obviously have no idea how college classrooms operate. I would submit to you it's only called "indoctrination" when someone disagrees with the opinion of the prof. Otherwise it's called "a good, sound education."

If you read all of my posts you would see that he thinks that Walt started one of the biggest evil corparations of all time. He wasn't comparing them Hitler was # 1 on his list and Walt was # 2. I really could careless if you don't belive me I won't loose any sleep but you obviously haven't Been around many college professors granted this is an extreme case but a lot of them force their ideology on their students.
 

Ralphlaw

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Isn't tenure a wonderful thing. Someone who brought happiness and employment to millions and thousands respectively is as bad as a genocidal psychopath who killed millions, and destroyed a continent. Well, your professor is an absolute moron, the biggest idiot of the 21st century who actually earns a living, and the last gasping breath of a political and economic system that indeed has been discarded on the ash heap of history. McCarthy was flawed, but the labor threats that Disney endured in the 40's, inspired by known communists, makes Walt's cooperation with the UnAmerican Activities committee understandable. Obviously your professor is just plain mentally crippled enough to know a tidbit of information, and then make ridiculous conclusions as a result.

By the way, other cooperatives with McCarthy included Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, William F. Buckley, and a host of more powerful people than Uncle Walt. Wouldn't your moronic professor see them as more evil than Walt.

Obviously your stupid professor, if not for the protection of "academic freedom" would be unemployed, or, if lucky, flipping burgers somewhere, badly, for a true capitalist. If I were you, I'd take out an ad in the school newspaper lambasting this idiot. I'll contribute $20 for the cost of the ad. Seriously.
 

TalkingHead

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If you read all of my posts you would see that he thinks that Walt started one of the biggest evil corparations of all time. He wasn't comparing them Hitler was # 1 on his list and Walt was # 2. I really could careless if you don't belive me I won't loose any sleep but you obviously haven't Been around many college professors granted this is an extreme case but a lot of them force their ideology on their students.

I know I should just let this thread die, but I can't help myself.

First point: By ranking Hitler and Disney on his little list, he's inherently comparing them.

Second point: I've been around more college profs than you (I'd bet the farm on it). I've never had any that forced their ideology onto their students, because you can't force someone to believe what you believe. Students may parrot back what they think the prof wants to hear, but that's different from being "forced to believe."

Bottom line: I've had some profs that made their ideology clear, but I see no harm in that. In fact, it's probably preferable to having a prof who tries to hide his beliefs and insidiously corrupt your mind. At least Mr. Disney-hater told you up front he's a Marxist. That makes him sound more honest than some of those evil fluffed-up capitalist Disney press releases. :animwink:
 

TalkingHead

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Isn't tenure a wonderful thing. Someone who brought happiness and employment to millions and thousands respectively is as bad as a genocidal psychopath who killed millions, and destroyed a continent. Well, your professor is an absolute moron, the biggest idiot of the 21st century who actually earns a living, and the last gasping breath of a political and economic system that indeed has been discarded on the ash heap of history. McCarthy was flawed, but the labor threats that Disney endured in the 40's, inspired by known communists, makes Walt's cooperation with the UnAmerican Activities committee understandable. Obviously your professor is just plain mentally crippled enough to know a tidbit of information, and then make ridiculous conclusions as a result.

By the way, other cooperatives with McCarthy included Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, William F. Buckley, and a host of more powerful people than Uncle Walt. Wouldn't your moronic professor see them as more evil than Walt.

Obviously your stupid professor, if not for the protection of "academic freedom" would be unemployed, or, if lucky, flipping burgers somewhere, badly, for a true capitalist. If I were you, I'd take out an ad in the school newspaper lambasting this idiot. I'll contribute $20 for the cost of the ad. Seriously.

Actually, we don't know what the professor's rationale was, because OP hasn't said. The HUAC business was brought up by someone else.

Another interesting tidbit of information is that Ronald Reagan, while he did testify before HUAC, didn't name any names like Uncle Walt, and was actually quite a moderate given the political climate.

Sorry, just had to demonstrate that I'm also mentally crippled enough to know a tidbit of information, and then make ridiculous conclusions as a result. :lol:
 

jt04

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Another professor bitterly clinging to his Communist Manifesto. So what's new?

Remember, those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.

In all likelihood said professor can't function in a free enterprise system so he seeks to destroy it. You shouldn't be suprised.

Walt would probably shake his head in disbelief and go right back to creating.:)
 

Figment1986

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How the hell can this guy compare Walt Disney and Hitler? :fork::mad:

Professors may share their opinion.... because it's an opinion. now he doesnt have a right to kick you out of class for opinion but he can share it with people... and you did say he did a short debate on it so he gave chance for both sides to state their opinion and say why...
 

TalkingHead

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Another professor bitterly clinging to his Communist Manifesto. So what's new?

Remember, those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.

In all likelihood said professor can't function in a free enterprise system so he seeks to destroy it. You shouldn't be suprised.

Walt would probably shake his head in disbelief and go right back to creating.:)

To that kind of disparaging attitude, all I can say is thank God for teachers' unions. Otherwise, they'd have it even worse than they already do.

And, funny enough, most people who share jt04's attitude about teaching have never actually tried it. It's not nearly the Mickey Mouse job that FoxNews-types make it out to be.
 

wedway71

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Wow that is pretty scary to compare the 2.

Im Jewish.......

Hitler-BAD

Disney-GOOD

The teacher is a Marxist? I wonder if he hates Disney since the whole McCarthiasm deal in the 50s???

Hell, Didnt some Soviet leaders go to Disneyland????:D
 
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