This is why I hate college!!!!!

[raven]

I think it's time to move to a different school. :lookaroun

 

[epcotWSC]

Throughout my time in college, I've noticed that many professors just plain suck. They're so opinionated and they always think they are right. Professors like that, I do not enjoy being in those classes. I'd drop the first day and pick another class.

 

[WDWFigment]

I know that you probably did not do this on purpose but I just have to point out the mis-use of the word liberal. It is defined as being devoted to a general broadening of the mind. In short, it means freedom of thought. A style of education largely promoted by our founding fathers.This guy was in no way liberal in the true sense of the word. Unfortunately, this word has a modern connotation that is false. A true liberal does not necessarily pick a side. He/She is open to ALL ideas.

I understand what you're saying, but I think it's odd to take issue with others' statements based on the definition of a word that has (admittedly) shifted meanings. I think many of the individuals were using the modern connotation. Definitions of words can evolve over time. I would assert that there is no such thing as a "false connotation".

For what it's worth, I probably should not have used "liberal education" as that still does infer the values of Liberalism. What I meant was left-leaning, or an education system largely run by those with very liberal ideologies.

 

[yankspy]

I understand what you're saying, but I think it's odd to take issue with others' statements based on the definition of a word that has (admittedly) shifted meanings. I think many of the individuals were using the modern connotation. Definitions of words can evolve over time. I would assert that there is no such thing as a "false connotation".

For what it's worth, I probably should not have used "liberal education" as that still does infer the values of Liberalism. What I meant was left-leaning, or an education system largely run by those with very liberal ideologies.

Agreed. I said "false" merely because it does contradict a more traditional use of the word. Now that I look at the way I used it I would agree that it would be difficult to assert that something has a "false connotation". I guess what I should have said was that it has a connotation that contradicts it's traditional definition. You are also correct in that meanings do shift over time. It just sort of annoys me when I tell people that I have a degree in liberal arts and they sort of get that look of "oh, one of those".

 

[TheBeatles]

There is a professor at my school who LOVES Disney. His office is filled with collectibles.

That's why I love college.

 

[ChrisFL]

In your professors defense, Walt Disney during the late 40's and 50's was one of McCarthy's men. He testified in front of congress turning in numerous people including his own employees with no real evidence. That can rub a lot of people the wrong way. He was also known as being a racist and sexist. Now I didn't know the man so I can't say for sure on those things but the fact that he worked with McCarthy and his witch hunt is a fact. A lot of people remember that side or Walt, not the side that we all see.

I've never heard of this, do you have a source?

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I've never heard of this, do you have a source?

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=2458

The House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) of the U.S. Congress opens its investigation into communist infiltration of the American movie industry on October 20, 1947. Chaired by Congressman Parnell Thomas, the subsequent hearings focused on identifying political subversives among Hollywood actors and actresses, writers, and directors.

Although initially opposed by a group of Hollywood heavyweights such as Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, and Gene Kelly, the hearings proceeded. A number of witnesses, including studio owners Walt Disney and Jack Warner, and movie stars Robert Taylor and Gary Cooper, gave statements decrying the communist influence in the film industry; some specifically named colleagues whom they suspected of communist affiliations or sympathies.

Walt's testimony can be found in its entirety here...a relevant portion:

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SMITH: Do you have any people in your studio at the present time that you believe are communist or fascist, employed there?

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: No; at the present time I feel that everybody in my studio is 100 percent American. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: Have you had at any time, in your opinion, in the past, have you at any time in the past had any communists employed at your studio? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: Yes; in the past I had some people that I definitely feel were communists. [/FONT]

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: Can you name any other individuals that were active at the time of the strike that you believe in your opinion are communists? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: Well, I feel that there is one artist in my plant that came in there, he came in about 1938, and he sort of stayed in the background, he wasn't too active, but he was the real brains of this, and I believe he is a communist. His name is David Hilberman. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: How is it spelled? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: H-i-l-b-e-r-m-a-n, I believe. I looked into his record and I found that, No. 1, that he had no religion and, No. 2, that he had considerable time at the Moscow Art Theater studying art direction or something. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: Any others, Mr. Disney? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: Well, I think Sorrell is sure tied up with them. If he isn't a communist, he sure should be one. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: Do you remember the name of William Pomerance, did he have anything to do with it? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: Yes, sir. He came in later. Sorrell put him in charge as business manager of cartoonists and later he went to the Screen Actors as their business agent, and in turn he put in another man by the name of Maurice Howard, the present business agent. And they are all tied up with the same outfit. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SMITH: What is your opinion of Mr. Pomerance and Mr. Howard as to whether or not they are or are not communists? [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DISNEY: In my opinion they are communists. No one has any way of proving those things.

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[Testtrack321]

I have a professor who on the first day of class said that he was a Marxist. Today he gave out a list that he compiled of the 50 worst people in the 20th century and Hitler was # 1. The problem that he put Walt Disney at #2.

I almost ____***T myself when he said this. This started a 35 minute debate between us at the end he told me that he changed his mind Walt was worse than Hitler and called me a captilistic moron and threw me out of his classroom.

How the hell can this guy compare Walt Disney and Hitler? :fork:

1.) Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Welcome to America. I love it.

2.) He's probably angry and bitter because he has a small ________. :animwink:

 

[imagineer boy]

I had a really bad ordeal with one of my teachers. He wasn't forcing his political opinions on us, he was just really mean.:lol: So, I dropped his class.

 

[TubaGeek]

Okay, through some shadowy parts of history, Walt had his faults, but your prof is a series of words I can't use right now. Even if you debated that Hitler himself shouldn't have been on the list, your prof did not handle it well. He does not deserve to be an educator.

 

[pilka214]

the professor seems very close-minded.

he grew up and never went to disney, he probably didn't have a good child-hood

i bet ya he was picked on as a kid and didn't play any sports or have any friends.

 

[matt88mph]

Wow...the professor actually called you a moron for defending Walt Disney? Was this in front of the whole class? A good professor would have let you argue your point, and then argue his point, like an actual mature discussion. What he did, if I gather correctly, wasn't befitting of an adult, much less a professor.

Now, I've read quite a bit about the big W, and even if he harbored anti-Semitic/racist/sexist thoughts (which a number of his former employees have refuted), it hardly seemed like he openly expressed them. Back in the 1950's and 1960's, a good amount of Jewish people, women, and African-Americans were working for Walt in decent jobs (animation, theme park design, etc.). With regards to his testimony before HUAC, a lot of businessmen were like that back in the day. And regardless, look at the solid evidence of the good he did. He entertained Americans during the Great Depression with his cartoons, he worked heavily with UNICEF (now that sounds like an evil corporation bent on global destruction). He also tried to control the prices of his products to keep them affordable to the general public, and if there was something he was more than anti-Communist, it was anti-Fascist. Walt would have been angered that someone put him that close to Hitler, even if it was just on a list. Now class, let's review:

Adolph Hitler: Wanted to destroy anyone outside the Aryan race, and tried to conquer the world.
Walt Disney: Dedicated his life's work to the children of the world, and making the world a better place for all.

Now Walt wasn't a perfect man, far from it, but I'd say the good that he did in the world at least puts him at neutral, and far past total evil.

(But if your professor ever tries to put Jim Henson on the list, he is truly a heartless man. I've never heard a single bad word said about Jim.)

 

[BenS]

Walt Disney the second worst person in the 20th century? This guy needs to think before making such foolish, arbitrary statements. What about Stalin, Mao Zedong, Kim Il-Sung, Saddam Hussein, and countless other dictators? Does this guy think Disney was worse than the Zodiac killer or the Unabomber?

Your professor apparently thinks being a capitalist is worse than mass murder, genocide, oppression, and other crimes against humanity. Someone needs to wake up.

 

[tirian]

Welcome to the world of liberal education. There are professors just like this all over the country.

I won't waste my time posting anything thorough, as I wouldn't be surprised if this thread were deleted for being "too political".

Ditto what he said. I find that many professors love to push their agendas in classes because their ideas are so outrageous, nobody will listen to them anywhere else.

 

[Figment632]

Your professor apparently thinks being a capitalist is worse than mass murder, genocide, oppression, and other crimes against humanity. Someone needs to wake up.[/QUOTE]

Exactly he admited he is a Marxist so I bet he does think starting such a huge corp is evil.

It just dawned on me that he has some hypocratic views because for someone who hates a captilistic society he is very materialistic. Always in a nice suit and drives a lexus

 

[piratetreasure]

Your teacher is a moron if he thinks Walt is one of the worst people ever!! Screw him!

 

[CaptainMichael]

Ironically, I'm writing a paper about how Walt is the greatest person (well, specifically, leader) ever. I hope my professor is more sympathetic to my views. lol.

 

[Katybug]

This is actually sad that this guy would compare Walt to Hitler. There is no comparrison. Obviously this "professor" is a weirdo and has never been to Disney to see what a magical place Walt created. I feel bad for this professor guy actually.

 

[rsoxguy]

Some of the most vehement Marxists can be found on American college campuses. Perhaps this professor should take a poll in Cuba to see how many people there would turn down a trip to Disney World. Forget this man and be thankful for the opportunity to oppose a person who is diametrically opposed to your viewpoint. Such exposer and confrontation can only strengthen you as an individual.

 

[GrimGrinninAnna]

I've never heard of this, do you have a source?

I thought it was a pretty well-known fact that Walt Disney participated in a lot of the McCarthy hype and was a bit of a racist, himself. He even went as far as to fire a few employees due to their race; in one notable circumstance he fired a greeter at the animation studios because he was of Indian descent and Walt was concerned at how this would look to financial producers who came through the door.

That being said, Walt Disney was a product of his time, and it wasn't like he came up with all of this out of his own brain. Unfortunately, many of our ancestors were raised with these beliefs, particularly those coming from the Midwest, which also attributes to Walt's "Main Street USA" love affair.