The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

WDW1974

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Until someone is willing to pick up the tab and buy him a nice disguise, I doubt he's going to visit UNI. Although the Rickster manages to pimp himself out to every theme park in Florida and So Cal so maybe Luigi should branch out a bit, live a little.

That's never going to happen. Lou works for Disney. Whether or not he is an official CM, which he is not, doesn't change that fact at all. He is their top parks BRAND advocate.

You know when you're watching a spy film and all of a sudden the American housewife turns out is a Russian spy like she was just dropped into the scenery?

That's Lou and TWDC.
 

TP2000

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Aren't thoughts like that what got us NGE in the first place?

I think thoughts like Jay Rasulo got us NGE. :D

Hopefully Tony Baxter spent the last 25 years of his career grooming and training and mentoring his replacements at WDI. If he didn't do that, and he just sat in his office waiting for an executive sea change to land him another Mega E Ticket for Disneyland that would never happen, then I think it was appropriate for him to retire at 65 like he did.

It pains me to say that as I'd love another Tony Baxter designed Epcot pavilion with a Sherman Brothers jingle and a Corporate America logo slapped on it as much as the next guy, but the realist in me thinks his staged yet gracious retirement was appropriate.
 

bhg469

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@WDW1974 do you know when we will get the Frozen (and more) announcements? :)
If they're smart, it will be quick and not at a conference where people can question the move. I'd like to think D23 would be their announcement and they get boo'd off the stage but you never know with that crowd. They may lose their minds with delight.
 

PhotoDave219

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Dave, I don't believe they are as big a minority as you'd think. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the majority at this point. I get how even my friends and colleagues in media/entertainment give me strange looks when I talk about the parks and the amount of time I spend in them when you look at what Disney/UNI fandom has become. You do feel a little dirty when you see a lot of what is out there.

You can be a fan without being a Lifestyler. ... That said, if I don't get an Oswald plush and LE MNSSHP pin then I am going on the Twitter and going to pout and say nasty things that if I have enough followers will have Dr. Blondie jumping through hoops for me!

This is why I really think it may be time to leave.

Plus there's no jobs, no money, etc.
 

Figments Friend

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https://twitter.com/Otto_Correct/status/505370660143915010/photo/1

Do we really think that is Tony?

Yes indeed....it is.
This has probably already been confirmed here at this point as i am a bit behind in my reading here...but yes, he had a fun day out at Universal on Saturday.

He waited almost two hours in the standby queue to ride, but it was worth it to him in the end!
Really great to see him out and about enjoying what he loves.

Tony is a HUGE fan of the Potter themed main attractions there.
He is not at all shy about expressing that when you touch on the subject in conversation.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
And on an unrelated note, glad to see @flynnibus taking a hit for Team Sanity over on the 365 thread. Dealing with j ... some of those personalities (and I use the word lightly) is just never fun.

No, no no. You have it all wrong. We are just insanely jealous of them and we hate everything Disney. I think you also are supposed to have a phoney psychiatrist badge too.

I mean, who doesn't do something every day for a year or something 2000+ times. Perfectly normal... those outside the dome are just jealous that they can't be the same way!
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
Yes indeed....it is.
This has probably already been confirmed here at this point as i am a bit behind in my reading here...but yes, he had a fun day out at Universal on Saturday.

He waited almost two hours in the standby queue to ride, but it was worth it to him in the end!
Really great to see him out and about enjoying what he loves.

Tony is a HUGE fan of the Potter themed main attractions there.
He is not at all shy about expressing that when you touch on the subject in conversation.
He must have been there for two days, or one of the Twitter images posted is of someone who just bears a striking resemblance as he's wearing different shirts in the two pics. At least if people think he was marginalized by TWDC, he certainly wasn't short changed in terms of enough money to enjoy himself in the post imagineering days.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Mission Space actually created a profile so you can experience the attraction and not become ill, unlike a certain wizard. I always wished Universal would be able to create a less intense version, like on the sum of all thrills.
Mission: Space actually wasted millions of dollars by disconnecting two of the installed centrifuges. Not to mention Eisners dream of cloning it around the globe collapsed with its lack of anticipated stellar success.

Did you purposely ignore the new profile on FJ so you could attempt and fail again at another cheap Universal dig? So predictable.
 
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Figments Friend

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I adore Baxter's 20th century work as much as the next Disney fan, but there comes a time when a wealthy sixtysomething guy who no longer has the CEO's ear takes the gold watch and makes room for the younger set with new ideas.

I was sent an invitation by a kind fan on this Forum last month to listen to a recent interview of Tony*s.
In it, he had much to say ( as always, bless him ) but the one comment of his that really stuck in my head was related to the younger set you mention above.

He noted the *new kids* he was working with would often ask him when he was going to retire so they could have their turn at the helm....or along those lines ( not a direct quote ).
The tone of his voice when he said this, and the words themselves, made me stop for a moment and feel a little sad.

Yes, i understand the need to step aside and let those just starting on their journey have some space to spread their wings and fly. I get that...but it seemed a bit disrespectful to me that people would say such things to him in person, someone who has the potential to be a great mentor to them.

If i was in his position, i would have found it a little disheartening.
Going to the work every day and trying to get a project moving forward with people who kept asking me when i was leaving would be a drag to say the least.

Tony had so much to give still....but the time came for a change.
 

Figments Friend

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He must have been there for two days, or one of the Twitter images posted is of someone who just bears a striking resemblance as he's wearing different shirts in the two pics. At least if people think he was marginalized by TWDC, he certainly wasn't short changed in terms of enough money to enjoy himself in the post imagineering days.

The photo i re-posted in my quote is definitely him, and i did notice the different shirt between the two photos shared here.

He may well have been in town for the full weekend....i am only aware of his visit on Saturday.
I can totally see him wanting to ride *Gringotts* more then once however.
He may have changed his shirt later in the day, as he is no fan of Florida*s humid temps

:)
 

FigmentJedi

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Jungle Cruise has reopened at Tokyo. Projectionitis strikes again, as there seems there is no longer any physical animal figures in the temple scene (which is now a projection mapped scene of the carved walls coming to life with color and sounds), though the cobras have moved outside. Additionally, they threw a movie reference in with Circle of Life playing when the boats arrive at the African Veldt.

 

ParentsOf4

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Does anyone here get hat WDW largely is run like it is still post 9/11 or that it is going out of business rather than bringing in record profits?
All amusement parks need a steady dose of capital expenditure (capex) to remain healthy. As the world’s premium theme park brand, this is particularly true for Disney. It’s this higher investment that makes Disney a premium brand, allowing them to charge more than other amusement parks.

Instead of increasing spending to maintain the brand, corporate Disney is on track this year to spend only 8% capex domestically, actually below the post 9/11 level. :mad:

MyMagic+ has dragged the numbers down badly while much of Iger's and Rasulo's reputations are tied to MyMagic+. They've harped on about MyMagic+ for seven straight quarters without producing any tangible results, long enough for many on the street to start to question it. Iger and Rasulo are so desperate to make MyMagic+ look like a success story that they are taking a slash-and-burn approach to budgets to pump up margins, even if there are long-term consequences at WDW.

Walt Disney defined the company standard when he stated:

“The park means a lot to me. It's something that will never be finished, something I can keep developing, keep 'plussing' and adding to. It's alive. It will be a live, breathing thing that will need changes. When you wrap up a picture and turn it over to Technicolor, you're through. Snow White is a dead issue with me. I just finished up a live-action picture, wrapped it up a few weeks ago. It's gone. I can't touch it. There are things in it I don't like, but I can't do anything about it. I want something live, something that would grow. The park is that. Not only can I add things, but even the trees will keep growing. The thing will get more beautiful year after year. And it will get better as I find out what the public likes. I can't do that with a picture; it's finished and unchangeable before I find out whether the public likes it or not.”​

It’s the public perception of this standard that allows corporate Disney to charge what it does. Without it, Disney’s theme parks slowly lose their competitive edge.

For Disney, public perception is everything yet Iger and company are playing a high stakes game with WDW's reputation just so they look good in front of Wall Street for the next quarterly earnings call.

Realistically, Disney should be spending about 13% on capex domestically in order to maintain its premium brand image.

Under Iger, Disney’s P&R capex has averaged 10.7%.

That 2.3% difference might not seem like a lot but since Iger took charge in 2005, that 2.3% equates to an extra $2.5B. Just imagine what today’s WDW would be like if Iger had spent an extra $2.5B.

Meanwhile, domestic capex in 2013 and 2014 are closer to 8%.

Allocating $500M in 2017 for Pandora is unacceptable. Anyone who defends that kind of capex budget is a Disney apologist, whether they realize it or not.

As long as corporate Disney continues to underinvest in WDW, WDW (and its fans) will continue to suffer.
 

the.dreamfinder

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Jungle Cruise has reopened at Tokyo. Projectionitis strikes again, as there seems there is no longer any physical animal figures in the temple scene (which is now a projection mapped scene of the carved walls coming to life with color and sounds), though the cobras have moved outside. Additionally, they threw a movie reference in with Circle of Life playing when the boats arrive at the African Veldt.


FITZGERALD!!!
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
All amusement parks need a steady dose of capital expenditure (capex) to remain healthy. As the world’s premium theme park brand, this is particularly true for Disney. It’s this higher investment that makes Disney a premium brand, allowing them to charge more than other amusement parks.

Instead of increasing spending to maintain the brand, corporate Disney is on track this year to spend only 8% capex domestically, actually below the post 9/11 level. :mad:

MyMagic+ has dragged the numbers down badly while much of Iger's and Rasulo's reputations are tied to MyMagic+. They've harped on about MyMagic+ for seven straight quarters without producing any tangible results, long enough for many on the street to start to question it. Iger and Rasulo are so desperate to make MyMagic+ look like a success story that they are taking a slash-and-burn approach to budgets to pump up margins, even if there are long-term consequences at WDW.

Walt Disney defined the company standard when he stated:

“The park means a lot to me. It's something that will never be finished, something I can keep developing, keep 'plussing' and adding to. It's alive. It will be a live, breathing thing that will need changes. When you wrap up a picture and turn it over to Technicolor, you're through. Snow White is a dead issue with me. I just finished up a live-action picture, wrapped it up a few weeks ago. It's gone. I can't touch it. There are things in it I don't like, but I can't do anything about it. I want something live, something that would grow. The park is that. Not only can I add things, but even the trees will keep growing. The thing will get more beautiful year after year. And it will get better as I find out what the public likes. I can't do that with a picture; it's finished and unchangeable before I find out whether the public likes it or not.”​

It’s the public perception of this standard that allows corporate Disney to charge what it does. Without it, Disney’s theme parks slowly lose their competitive edge.

For Disney, public perception is everything yet Iger and company are playing a high stakes game with WDW's reputation just so they look good in front of Wall Street for the next quarterly earnings call.

Realistically, Disney should be spending about 13% on capex domestically in order to maintain its premium brand image.

Under Iger, Disney’s P&R capex has averaged 10.7%.

That 2.3% difference might not seem like a lot but since Iger took charge in 2005, that 2.3% equates to an extra $2.5B. Just imagine what today’s WDW would be like if Iger had spent an extra $2.5B.

Meanwhile, domestic capex in 2013 and 2014 are closer to 8%.

Allocating $500M in 2017 for Pandora is unacceptable. Anyone who defends that kind of capex budget is a Disney apologist, whether they realize it or not.

As long as corporate Disney continues to underinvest in WDW, WDW (and its fans) will continue to suffer.


As peter has found out (much to our shock) that it's the corporate culture that has festered here in Orlando and spread like a cancer. There are fewer and fewer people inside Celebration Place who believe that the best way to run the parks is through expansion and premier guest service. The mentality of margins, budgets and profits at all cost has grown exponentially and they continue to hire the like minded.

It's not something that the head of WDW can change, it would take a monumental reorganization along with a change in philosophy & thinking to fix this.
 

Disneyhead'71

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I would have thought someone who was proud about traveling outside the bubble would have been a bit more open to the idea there is a range to everything.. not just on/off.
Oh, I agree with you, I was just pointing out that most of us here are a bit "special" in our own way.

I just look at the 365 guys as having more resources than creativity. I'd find something more interesting to do if I had that kind of time and money.
 

Mike S

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Jungle Cruise has reopened at Tokyo. Projectionitis strikes again, as there seems there is no longer any physical animal figures in the temple scene (which is now a projection mapped scene of the carved walls coming to life with color and sounds), though the cobras have moved outside. Additionally, they threw a movie reference in with Circle of Life playing when the boats arrive at the African Veldt.


Don't really know what to say about those changes except they seem off. All the music seems out of place and while the projections look nice I don't think it needed them in the first place, definitely prefer seeing animals in there. And what's with the green canopy for the boats? They also seem out of place. On the topic of Jungle Cruise I got a really good skipper when I rode this weekend. My favorite joke, "oh no a downed plane, you know what that means. Hippos. Ever see a Hippo jump 30,000 feet out of the water and take down a plane? It's not pretty" :hilarious:
 
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