PhotoDave219
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Which is reason enough to delete facebook and twitter. People spend too much of their lives plugged in, myself included. I want to withdraw from this.
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Which is reason enough to delete facebook and twitter. People spend too much of their lives plugged in, myself included. I want to withdraw from this.
phillip sugarman
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According to David Koenig on Mouseplanet, he says that Innoventions is not getting taken out anymore at Disneyland, instead they are planning to remodel the first floor. Also, Gamora and Star-Lord along with two other superheroes will be getting meet and greets this fall. Lastly he says that Tom and Huck's Treehouse is closed down permanently because Disneyland would have to redesign and rebuild the tree house. Can anyone validate these claims? What are your thoughts on this?
CDavid
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I hadn't heard about that feature of Antartica, but if I understand your context correctly in what that option does, then I agree wholeheartedly. I've suggested several times, here and elsewhere, that more 'thrilling' attractions could sometimes be fitted with an optional 'tamer' setting (it could also work the other way around), but every time I get replies that its a dumb idea. I don't understand that.
How about giving guests the occasional opportunity to ride Tower of Terror in an elevator car which 'drops' no faster than a real elevator? In principle, it's no different than those who want to try Space Mountain with the lights on.
Well, for Facebook (and others) why are people so anxious to be involved in an online trailer park anyway?
I forget where I first heard that analogy, but it fits like a glove.
Stevek
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You and me both brother. Sad that I have to force myself to put down the phone when I'm at Disneyland or the kids soccer game. Life will go on just fine if I'm not up to date on the latest FB/Twitter chatter.
Stevek
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Where did you see this? I couldn't find anything on MP but I'm a bit blind at times.
GiveMeTheMusic
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It's on the front page, buried in an article about Frozen meet-n-greet Fastpass.
bhg469
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This is coming from a person I know directly. No Internet rumors.
bhg469
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I get a lot of news on twitter. As far as Facebook discussions, when the local news reports 2 children drowning in a pool and some piece of garbage decides that he would just as "where were the parents" that boils my blood.
PhotoDave219
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..... In Epcot?
PLEASE FANBOIS ... don't send me breathless notes thinking that because no mention of an EPCOT attraction was made on an ABC Frozen commercial last night that the Maelstrom makeover is off or delayed or any such notion. I am very busy right now (hence my lack of time here) and I don't want to spend my limited online 'fun' time going back and forth over something I KNOW FOR A FACT IS HAPPENING!!! Move on and, yeah, Let IT Go!
OK, so I FINALLY find something I want to listen to on a Disney Podcast. Yes, it is true ... @WDWFigment appeared with the Parkscope Bois and I actually tried to listen, but couldn't for some tech reason that I didn't have time to deal with.
Oh, how I want to hear Sean's intellectual ramblings ... and I wonder if the bois sorta grilled Tom over his still unrequited love for WDW ...
Oh, how I want to hear Sean's intellectual ramblings ... and I wonder if the bois sorta grilled Tom over his still unrequited love for WDW ...
phillip sugarman
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No disneyland
And on an unrelated note, glad to see @flynnibus taking a hit for Team Sanity over on the 365 thread. Dealing with j ... some of those personalities (and I use the word lightly) is just never fun.
the.dreamfinder
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BOYS BOYS BOYS! As a consequence of a shift in beliefs regarding the BRAND, there has been a strong push away from Disney being an all ages brand with no strong gender attachment towards pushing princess merch; likely the consequence of gendered focus testing. The Disney BRAND became outwardly toxic for boys despite its parks and films having much to offer for both boys and girls. Over time those shifts in brand perception among children has resulted in everything from an initially princess M&G heavy NFL, with SDMT added later, to gender segregated programming on Disney Junior, compare Disney Jr's programming lineup to that of PBS Kids.
So now that they've "poisoned" the brand for most boys and the suits believe gendered IP is a safer bet, ignoring the fact that some of Disney' and Pixar's biggest hits were not directed at one gender. That's where Marvel comes in. Burbank sees Marvel as an equalizer that can perform in the same manner for boys as the Princesses have for girls. If you have a look at the rankings for merchandising based on FRANCHISE/BRAND,
Marvel may not look that big, but the suits believe that over time it can be a solid top 10 contender along with the rest. Marvel also serves international objectives as well. China has a male to female ratio of 1.18 to 1, for children under 18, which bodes well for such a boy focused brand in the world's fastest growing middle class. On the content side, their grand experiment, the Marvel Cinematic Universe, has reinvented the idea of the franchise by creating a shared universe modeled after their comic book counterparts. Also worth noting that Kevin Fiege wasn't a big comic book fan growing up yet studied the comics. We now have two successful Captain America movies, a character many said would never resonate with audiences, and that movie with the talking tree and raccoon everyone seems to be talking about as well as that Avengers thing.
My personal biggest concern with how Disney sees Marvel, as well as itself, is the negative impact of gender segregation by means of limiting opportunities. Every time a new Marvel movie comes out Kevin Fiege is almost always asked if there are solo female films in development, particularly regarding Captain Marvel and Black Widow. According to Badass Digest and /film, Marvel has scripts for both characters and is interested in making them, but it keeps getting held up in large part due to financial concerns (eg. Scarlett Johannson's contract would need to be renewed to get her in a solo film) but the larger belief is that because Marvel is a "boy's" brand a film that features a female character wouldn't be successful. No film is successful,both creatively and financially, based on whether the protagonist is a man or woman, but on the EXECUTION of that idea; to have faith that an idea is worth doing.
"Frozen" and "Guardians" are films that took creative risks, a love story revolving around sisterhood, not marriage and a big budget film with characters unknown to everyone, and became the biggest films in their respective release years as well as becoming part of pop culture. However, the marketing, in the United States, for these films could not be more different. Both had challenges, "Frozen" being a fairy tale musical and "Guardians" featured unknown, strange characters, but "Frozen" had the extra baggage from the Burbank view that the Disney BRAND is a "girl's" BRAND. The marketing of "Frozen" did everything to avoid mentioning that the film had two Princesses as protagonists and only at the last minute did marketing material mention the film was a musical. Compared to 2009's "Princess and the Frog", "Frozen" had an excellent place in the winter schedule having the distinction as the only big family film during the Thanksgiving-New Year's season. Good marketing should give you a clear idea of the film and to persuade you to see it based on its merits once you have been made aware of it. For a film about a character learning it is ok to be themselves and embrace who they are and those who love them, the US marketing of "Frozen" turns its back on those values. "Guardians" marketing took a different approach. The market in not only informs the audience who the Guardians are, but does it with an air of confidence, or perhaps sincerity, that says they believe in what they're selling. The domestic marketing for "Frozen" lacked this despite the obvious value in convincing audiences to see a movie by clearly explicating that this is something special, worth going to the movies for. If Disney cannot sincerely communicate to the non pixie dusters that its movies are worth seeing, the long term health of the Disney BRAND comes into question.
I'll leave you guys with a quote from Ollie Johnston
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I don't know how, but somehow people got VERY confused. I was speaking of Loveable Lou Mongello, not Tony Baxter. I know personally what TB thought of Potter
Stevek
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Disneyland. The innoventions thing is but isn't surprising. It's prime real estate but by all accounts has become a very popular home for Marvel which I can only imagine them building on now. With the rumors that SW going to Toontown, keeping the building until they can eventually figure out what to do with it makes sense. Now what they do with the first floor...that's the million dollar question. More Marvel? A Star Wars primer?
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
Yup. A:EOTP has cars that can be switched from "mild" to "wild" with the touch of a button. I think this would make a lot of sense on attractions like Dinoaur, Cat in the Hat, and Forbidden Journey.
No, he reportedly called it "The greatest thing ever", but what would he know about theme park attractions.
That was his supposed reaction to Gringotts, Tweeted by one fanboi who ran into him.
Not saying he didn't say that or something like it ... just saying it came from the Twitverse and I take that stuff with bags of salt.
I get very confused. Often.I don't know how, but somehow people got VERY confused. I was speaking of Loveable Lou Mongello, not Tony Baxter. I know personally what TB thought of Potter
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying the response didn't come from Disney directly? ... Because I can't imagine why if Jenn or Gary or Thomas told you that you were being too negative and were revoking credentials/no longer putting you on 'the list' that your response would be one of respect.
Well, that's thoughtful of them. Of course, they benefit as well.