phi2134
Well-Known Member
So the mug with the paid sensor has to be in a certain position while its dispensing and it's not simply a scanning method before you fill?
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"Rapid Fill" Mugs Coming to Walt Disney World Hotels
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flynnibus
Premium Member
Whatever they chose to make it and sell it as
MOXOMUMD
Well-Known Member
After being in a park all day in the middle of July?? Yes. Yes I am. I'm getting my $17.99 worth of Sprite.Why? Are you really going to drink an entire mug in less than five minutes?
flynnibus
Premium Member
Well obviously there is a range/location - but what matters to your attempt at thwarting the system is that the dispenser meters what it puts out. So it doesn't matter what cup you try to swap in... It's only going to put out the volume of product the system wants to.
I'm amazed how much people have forgotten about the last rounds of testing.
It might depend upon the cup. Most paper cups won't tolerate more than a couple of refills, if the system even allows you to refill it. Or, as you suggested, there might be time limit - you can refill for, say 2 hrs.
Or, you might get a larger cup that holds more than a mug but with no refill.
FigmentsFangirl
Well-Known Member
True, paper cups, like Tim Hortons cups, last {for me on a hot day} at the very most about 90 minutes before the bottom falls completely off.
What I have bolded is basically my breakfast drink at Disneyworld {or Hong Kong Disneyland} with a Cinnabun, a massive Coke with a Cinnabun, breakfast at its best. Papercup though, one load of that and no need of a refill {or another drink} until well later around lunch.
But if this is just for the resorts, what about the other places, {like for example as I stated, Club Cool at Epcot ? Or Pizzafari at AK ?} that haf self fill stations for drinks ? Will those be affected ? Because I remember just asking for a cup for water {and ice as a friend had hurt himself and we needed ice for the injury at the time} and we were just up and given the cup without need of paying. Heck one shift crew chief guy a CM in charge of a group by the look of him, even said where to get the ice or even got it for us. Will that be affected by this ?
sloppy.joey
Active Member
We had purchased the refill mugs at the water parks (which used a barcode) and they did not allow instant refills as we discovered that you had to wait about 40-60 seconds.(as long as my memory serves me correctly) More than likely timing will be spaced so one does not stand their and continuously pour it in to extra paper cups, again not to ruin your day and limit you from quickly getting a drink after a hot day then grabbing another to take with you. It will also be limited to something like 12 ounces or so to prevent someone abusing the system by simply holding down the release button/trigger and filling "outsider" cups. I think Disney is simply trying to make the system work as intended with technology not available 15 years ago.
lnsemsf
Well-Known Member
Actually Universal already has this. If you want to use the Coke Freestyle machines at the parks you have to buy a mug with an RFID chip in it. You're then limited to 1 refill every 10 minutes and if you try to refill too soon it gives you a countdown until your next refill on the Freestyle LCD.
Goofnut1980
Well-Known Member
Ok... simple question. Wouldn't it have been easier to just link it to MM+ band and not put it inside a mug that someone will put in the microwave for a hot beverage and blow up the microwave??
edit: I wonder if we will get the freestyle machines???
edit: I wonder if we will get the freestyle machines???
Birthwarrior
New Member
The article says that it is rolling out in July, beginning with the All Star Resorts and then spreading to the rest. If we are going to be at the Yacht Club next week and have the deluxe dining plan, will we find this new mug or not, do ya think?
Goofnut1980
Well-Known Member
That is totally us... We don't drink much during the trip from the fountain. Partially because AKV, you have to walk 60 miles from the room to the lobby... But after a day at the parks, we would stop for a quick drink, drink it and refill it and head back to the room. If I have to wait, that will just be silly!
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
OK, y'all are having a MAGICal Muggables party and no one invited the King of Refillable Mug Online Arguments Crown from 2001-07 (when I took my name out of the running a la Oprah to let others have a chance at the award) and no one told me?!?!
So, what am I supposed to do with all my mugs here that I was told my literally dozens of CMs, including area managers, to bring them back forever? Am I screwed? I love the stolen soda!!!!
So, what am I supposed to do with all my mugs here that I was told my literally dozens of CMs, including area managers, to bring them back forever? Am I screwed? I love the stolen soda!!!!
GrumpyFan
Well-Known Member
These cost about .20 cents each when purchased in a 500 label roll. But, Disney will be purchasing a log more of these, so the cost will be much lower. Then again, they probably won't be buying the labels, but the cups with them already on them. Just guessing, the cost for a paper cup will probably be around .10 cents, and the mugs about .50 cents. Overall, the cost for them isn't significant enough to justify the huge price bump.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's not what the soda costs .... It's about the lost revenue of selling the soda
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
It's about them nickel and diming people to death. They may prevent me from stealing massive quantities of Coke as I did during my glorious 11 nights at OKW and DAK Lodge Villas, but they'll lose out on all the food I bought to go with it as I'll just head elsewhere. It's not like The Mara's food is so incredible that it's worth dining there at those price points. So, I congratulate them ... unless I find a loophole or a CM willing to make on ... and I'll be working 80 hours a week trying, I assure you!
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Actually, that isn't true. As someone around when Disney began the program they never anticipated the number of resorts they'd have, they never anticipated that many guest would toss something lightweight into the luggage or cars, they never realized they might need a written policy across property after a decade plus of having location-base CMs, including area managers, tell folks 'bring em back forever' etc ... it was a loyalty deal that cost Disney next to nothing and has added millions in food and beverage sales over the years.
For me, it was a lifetime event ... and I intend to get my free soda as long as I can (maybe I could drive up now and start filling up at 6 a.m.).
TRONorail10
Active Member
The refillable mugs have always been for "the length of your stay," so if you plan on staying on property 30 different times a year, then yes, you buy 30 different mugs a year. If you were one of the ones who was cheating the system, then... karma is a b*tch and you just ruined it for everyone.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
To be fair, it was a 'rule' that only existed since Pop opened in 2003 and Disney added the wording on the mugs and around property. It most definitely wasn't written or enforced policy before then.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
The refillable mugs have always been for "the length of your stay," so if you plan on staying on property 30 different times a year, then yes, you buy 30 different mugs a year. If you were one of the ones who was cheating the system, then... karma is a b*tch and you just ruined it for everyone.
Not true at all. Karma is a good friend who keeps you warm at night knowing that people actually fret about a billion dollar corporation 'losing' a few cents on soda while making $36 on a few burgers, salads and desserts in a food court.
Changing a system well over a decade in and then acting like the oral contracts given by CMs doesn't matter is BS.
Now, after I go back to talking about more important topics, then I'll go to sleep and take karma with my plush.