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News Park attendance showing significant softness heading into the Fall 2018

dmw

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I’m from the UK I wouldn’t risk 3 days of my holiday by booking during hurricane season when the experts have predicted more hurricanes. I’d like to hope Americans would have the common sense too to think about the potential impact of the weather, when it costs so much to book and alter.
The "experts" in May predicted a more active hurricane season for 2018. In August they changed it to a less active season. The same experts said Florence would make landfall as a Cat 4, possibly a Cat 5 - it was a Cat 1 (still very powerful and dangerous, but nothing like was expected). Also note that hurricane forecasts include storms that form and never make landfall, and storms that never reach hurricane force. And, those hurricane predictions include the entire Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico - not just Florida. Think of it this way: The footprint of Florida is close to that of the UK. A hurricane strike in Miami would not affect Orlando. Just as a storm in Scotland would not affect London. Orlando is listed as the 2nd safest city in Florida in terms of hurricanes, according to homeinsurance dot com studies. You are more likely to experience a tornado in Orlando, than a hurricane. The most severe tornados can happen between February and April. But, June - September is the most active tornado season for Orlando, but with weaker tornados.

So, if you are really concerned about severe weather, best not to visit Orlando between February and November. If we planned vacations around severe weather seasons, we might as well stay home. Or... we can plan for the best, but buy travel insurance to protect the investment - just in case. Weather happens. Don't let fear of weather limit what you can experience.
 

eddie104

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The "experts" in May predicted a more active hurricane season for 2018. In August they changed it to a less active season. The same experts said Florence would make landfall as a Cat 4, possibly a Cat 5 - it was a Cat 1 (still very powerful and dangerous, but nothing like was expected). Also note that hurricane forecasts include storms that form and never make landfall, and storms that never reach hurricane force. And, those hurricane predictions include the entire Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico - not just Florida. Think of it this way: The footprint of Florida is close to that of the UK. A hurricane strike in Miami would not affect Orlando. Just as a storm in Scotland would not affect London. Orlando is listed as the 2nd safest city in Florida in terms of hurricanes, according to homeinsurance dot com studies. You are more likely to experience a tornado in Orlando, than a hurricane. The most severe tornados can happen between February and April. But, June - September is the most active tornado season for Orlando, but with weaker tornados.

So, if you are really concerned about severe weather, best not to visit Orlando between February and November. If we planned vacations around severe weather seasons, we might as well stay home. Or... we can plan for the best, but buy travel insurance to protect the investment - just in case. Weather happens. Don't let fear of weather limit what you can experience.
I agree with this post completely.
 
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wannabeBelle

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And in related news on another news site, it has been reported that several long time members of the Citizens of Hollywood are being cut as a cost savings measure. The last day for these people is at the end of the month to achieve fiscal 2019 cost reduction targets. Leaving by the end of the month will be the Dorma Nesmond, Paige Turner, Dara Vamp, and Officer Prime Brody characters. Several of these actors have been in these roles for many years and are among the most senior entertainers in all of Walt Disney World. It is not known if these characters will be replaced or recast. Marie
 

asianway

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And in related news on another news site, it has been reported that several long time members of the Citizens of Hollywood are being cut as a cost savings measure. The last day for these people is at the end of the month to achieve fiscal 2019 cost reduction targets. Leaving by the end of the month will be the Dorma Nesmond, Paige Turner, Dara Vamp, and Officer Prime Brody characters. Several of these actors have been in these roles for many years and are among the most senior entertainers in all of Walt Disney World. It is not known if these characters will be replaced or recast. Marie
Who’s ofc Brody? Smitty?
 

Lensman

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The "experts" in May predicted a more active hurricane season for 2018. In August they changed it to a less active season. The same experts said Florence would make landfall as a Cat 4, possibly a Cat 5 - it was a Cat 1 (still very powerful and dangerous, but nothing like was expected).
I'm not against the overall advice of not letting fear of inclement weather interfere with otherwise good vacation plans, but I suspect that it's the inferior experts who predicted landfall as a Cat 5. There was some chance that Florence would briefly hit Cat 5 before the EWRC messed with her strengthening, but that was never expected to last as Florence passed over the shallower waters off the coast of NC, despite the warm gulf current. I think all the real tropical cyclone experts were standing by the NHC forecasts, which I think were for landfall as a borderline Cat 3/4 hurricane.

Another part of the reason for landfall being weaker was that it stalled off the coast - which actually made is worse for residents of NC as they received several days of storm surge and torrential rains as the storm sat off the coast training in bands of rain to the entire southeast quadrant of NC. I think it's been said that Florence was a "Cat 5" rain event, but only a "Cat 1" wind event. (and a "Cat 3" surge event).

At any rate, a agree with the gist of your advice, which is to not let the possibility of bad weather affect your vacation. Though if you have the choice of dates, it's probably not wrong to pick the April/May instead of Sept/Oct. We used to always go in October, though. Though I suppose the tradeoffs are a little different if you're planning a two week international vacation.

And it is true that I tried of avoid going to Oklahoma in April and May.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I just noticed today WDW is back to selling discounted park tickets to Canadians. They're valid until September 27 2019 and the only blackout dates are Christmas Eve to New Year's Day. 4-day minimum for the passes.

They've had this deal before (including earlier this year), but started it again on August 29th.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I just noticed today WDW is back to selling discounted park tickets to Canadians. They're valid until September 27 2019 and the only blackout dates are Christmas Eve to New Year's Day. 4-day minimum for the passes.

They've had this deal before (including earlier this year), but started it again on August 29th.
...the date is the key part of that. It’s to backstop what could be a really bad year for them.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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No where did I say that Walter
You said it should never be slow on a Friday in September...That’s a reference to locals. Food and wine and weenie parties...

Weekends tend to be of heavier volume - true...but overall the month is comparably light.

And August is slow in comparison to the past...way slow. School calendars are different now...but a bigger trend seems to be traveling in the cooler season and not tolerating the more oppressive heat times. June doesn’t seem as busy and decades ago either...July still seems pretty busy.

You’re talking the differences on certain days the last couple of years...that’s fine. But it is part of a bigger shift - if not pondered every day...it is what it is.
 

wannabeBelle

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Who’s ofc Brody? Smitty?
I am not sure of all of the correct names of the people in the show, I have only seen it a few times and mostly in passing, so am not familiar with the characters. I did get that information from the article. I know there is a policeman character, just ot sure of the name. Marie
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Cuts so far (masterpost)-
  • Jack Sparrow MK show
  • Citizens of Hollywood downgrade
  • Rafiki’s Planet Watch
I’m not sure if we know that the cuts are happening because of attendance, but it’s all in the area of probability.
I think the reasons have been said:

It’s a plan for “mandatory” cuts...doesn’t matter if the parks are packed or empty.

That’s chapek...sweatshop guru...

And oh by the way - the leading “candidate” for ceo of the walt disney company.

I really do wish I was exaggerating
 
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