jedimaster1227
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Soon to return? I'd bet my life on it! :lol:
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New Titles and Positions Announced including Jim MacPhee
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Soon to return? I'd bet my life on it! :lol:
SirGoofy
Member
You cannot be forgiven... There is only 1 Return, and it isn't of the King, it is of the Jedi!!!
Except ROTJ is the worst by far of the original trilogy.
Empire>Return of the King>A New Hope>Two Towers>Fellowship>Return of the Jedi
I love ROTJ, but yea, it's definitely the worst.
Captain Chaos
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SirGoofy
Member
Yea, the bad guys never stay gone in the movies.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
I will agree that Empire was by far the best of the Star Wars movies...
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
He shall return.. But under what moniker this time??? Hmmm...
EPCOT Explorer
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unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Not only has enigma been banned, but all posts have been removed and there is no history of him on this site whatsoever.
If you search for him you will come up with a big fat nothing.
But Steve didn't go so far as to ban the spelling of his name as in a certain past "hammer" type member. :lookaroun
If you search for him you will come up with a big fat nothing.
But Steve didn't go so far as to ban the spelling of his name as in a certain past "hammer" type member. :lookaroun
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
EDIT. There still are some of his posts that weren't physically removed, but you have to stumble across them. There is no searching allowed.
tirian
Well-Known Member
Why would anybody want Eisner back? His successes only came when Frank Wells was his partner; after that, Eisner went downhill fast. Eisner was a personally creative person (BA in English, if I'm not mistaken), and IMO he assigned too many MBAs to make up for that. Eventually, creativity was stripped from the WDC--who can forget Eisner's cheapquels, cookie-cutter movies, sudden lack of interest in the parks, Millionaire obsession, Family Channel purchase, DCA and WDSP approval... The list goes on and on.
Personally, I think Iger's hands-off approach would work if he put the right people in charge of each division. Iger is a business man and doesn't pretend to be anything else. Of course, I'd rather see someone like Walt as CEO, but modern Wall Street wouldn't know what to do with him.
WDW1974
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WDW1974
Uh ... ah ... positive direction?
Can you list five reasons why you feel the company is headed in a positive direction in terms of park developments?
Just curious as to how anyone could be optimistic right now ...
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
OK ... some comments on your comments, which will inevitably lead to more comments and yet more comments ...
I don't know who you are speaking of in particular, but to me it's been akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Many of the people who are staying have been a large part of the problem.
Do you have faith in the likes of Al Weiss or Erin Wallace?
I don't. They've presided over a period of quality cuts at WDW that's been unprecendented. I don't see how giving them more power, including in Anaheim, could possibly be a good thing.
And while quality execs like Tom McAlpin (gone) and Jim MacPhee (moved to a very nebulous position) are leaving, people who have been disasters as VPs -- Phil Holmes and Val Bunting immediately come to mind -- keep their jobs.
Then you have someone like Danny Cockerell taking over EPCOT from Jim when he hasn't exactly been widely praised amongst the cast, and is someone who was raised (in the same house to be exact) on a business model that drastically affected WDW quality to begin with.
I don't have problems with clones in general, but I do worry about Disney trying to make all its parks the same. Disney parks aren't WalMarts or McDonald's or Starbucks. Variety is good. Obviously, some of the larger, more popular things should be spread around ... but you can do things differently and not simply copy ... Phantom Manor at DLP (hell, almost anything there) is a great example of that.
Of course, I won't point out yet again that nothing is happening right now.
You do know originally Star Tours 2.0 was supposed to be opening in 2-3 months, right?
I take it that's as close to a condemnation of the man's limited abilities you're going to offer ... while it's great he wasn't promoted, I want to see him gone from the company. The MK has fallen further under his alleged leadership than anyone else's. He's had seven years to diminish the place ... it's time for someone else, someone with vision, creativity and leadership to take the helm of the No. 1 theme park in the world.
So can't agree here.
That action isn't needed now. Attendance has dropped but not drastically, at least now. It would be suicide to close parks when people are there to fill them. The 4/3 deal has done its job, which is why it has been extended twice ... and counting.
That's OK. I just threw five out as an arbitrary number.
Well, Disney has closed things with no replacements many times. The lame Pocahontas show at DAK is something that comes to mind of late. Fear Factor is no loss. And PF will only be a loss if its sits empty.
Interesting. Haven't heard that. I wonder what Disney's deal is because some locations (Art of Disney DD comes to mind) looked like they weren't restocking. ... But I don't blame Uni or Disney for doing that. People who are coming aren't buying merchandise, so why buy it right now?
Fair enough. And I am not saying WDW is a total disaster. Hell, I even enjoyed Idol and Kim Possible (two things I didn't expect to at all). But I also know WDW could be better run. Jay Rasulo is ultimately the big problem and he just used the economy to solidify his power base.
TDO needs a giant enema to clean it out.
I don't see folks with vision, with creativity, with an appreciation for what Disney was, is and should be.
When you're a creative content company like Disney you simply can't be so risk averse because in the long run it will kill you.
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted by WDW1974
Uh ... ah ... positive direction?
Can you list five reasons why you feel the company is headed in a positive direction in terms of park developments?
Just curious as to how anyone could be optimistic right now ...
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
OK ... some comments on your comments, which will inevitably lead to more comments and yet more comments ...
I don't know who you are speaking of in particular, but to me it's been akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Many of the people who are staying have been a large part of the problem.
Do you have faith in the likes of Al Weiss or Erin Wallace?
I don't. They've presided over a period of quality cuts at WDW that's been unprecendented. I don't see how giving them more power, including in Anaheim, could possibly be a good thing.
And while quality execs like Tom McAlpin (gone) and Jim MacPhee (moved to a very nebulous position) are leaving, people who have been disasters as VPs -- Phil Holmes and Val Bunting immediately come to mind -- keep their jobs.
Then you have someone like Danny Cockerell taking over EPCOT from Jim when he hasn't exactly been widely praised amongst the cast, and is someone who was raised (in the same house to be exact) on a business model that drastically affected WDW quality to begin with.
I don't have problems with clones in general, but I do worry about Disney trying to make all its parks the same. Disney parks aren't WalMarts or McDonald's or Starbucks. Variety is good. Obviously, some of the larger, more popular things should be spread around ... but you can do things differently and not simply copy ... Phantom Manor at DLP (hell, almost anything there) is a great example of that.
Of course, I won't point out yet again that nothing is happening right now.
You do know originally Star Tours 2.0 was supposed to be opening in 2-3 months, right?
I take it that's as close to a condemnation of the man's limited abilities you're going to offer ... while it's great he wasn't promoted, I want to see him gone from the company. The MK has fallen further under his alleged leadership than anyone else's. He's had seven years to diminish the place ... it's time for someone else, someone with vision, creativity and leadership to take the helm of the No. 1 theme park in the world.
So can't agree here.
That action isn't needed now. Attendance has dropped but not drastically, at least now. It would be suicide to close parks when people are there to fill them. The 4/3 deal has done its job, which is why it has been extended twice ... and counting.
That's OK. I just threw five out as an arbitrary number.
Well, Disney has closed things with no replacements many times. The lame Pocahontas show at DAK is something that comes to mind of late. Fear Factor is no loss. And PF will only be a loss if its sits empty.
Interesting. Haven't heard that. I wonder what Disney's deal is because some locations (Art of Disney DD comes to mind) looked like they weren't restocking. ... But I don't blame Uni or Disney for doing that. People who are coming aren't buying merchandise, so why buy it right now?
Fair enough. And I am not saying WDW is a total disaster. Hell, I even enjoyed Idol and Kim Possible (two things I didn't expect to at all). But I also know WDW could be better run. Jay Rasulo is ultimately the big problem and he just used the economy to solidify his power base.
TDO needs a giant enema to clean it out.
I don't see folks with vision, with creativity, with an appreciation for what Disney was, is and should be.
When you're a creative content company like Disney you simply can't be so risk averse because in the long run it will kill you.
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Computer Magic
Well-Known Member
My last trip in Sept, I didn't buy nearly as much merchandise. I had a Disney Reward Card just waiting to spend money on mercandise, but there was nothing worth buying. I was hoping for a unique resort Beach Club sweat shirt or button up, but nothing. A lot of DVC stuff but nothing saying hey I visted Disney Beach Club. SO I spent all the Rewards Dollars on drinks :lookaroun Yeah Disney still got my money, well not really, it was earn dollars :lol:
I guess my point is I do blame Disney for selling crap :lookaroun
yankspy
Well-Known Member
Yep. The only thing that I have seen lately worth purchasing are the retro shirts.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I don't know exactly what the deal is/was with this 'enigma' person, but I don't believe in banning people from sites like this (and no, no one asked for my opinion before some smart a$$ says it, but this is a DISCUSSION board) UNLESS they are behaving in a threatening manner toward others, placing personal information that isn't known about others or engaging in name-calling/slurs.
Just being confrontational or nasty shouldn't get anyone tossed IMHO.
Again, I don't know what happened here, so I don't know whether it was justified or not. I certainly didn't see anything on this thread that would qualify.
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
He was threatening, rude, and a previously banned member... You don't get banned for negativity, thank goodness!:lol:
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Eisner saved TWDC ... along with Frank Wells and Roy Disney and Jeffrey Katzenburg.
Eisner's first decade as CEO was one of the best in the history of the company from both financial and creative standpoints.
He built off some great moves that had just been started under Ron Miller, Card Walker and Donn Tatum ... things like EPCOT Center, TDL, The Disney Channel, Touchstone Pictures and WDW hotel growth that were in their infancy and just led an amazing period of growth.
Once Frank died, things really began to sour ... some of it was in Michael's control and some wasn't. There's no denying his last five years if not longer were largely a disaster.
But he was creative ... and he cared about the product. Greatly. He was also someone you could carry on a real conversation with about the product, he didn't simply want to hear that everything was magical.
Bob Iger's honeymoon is over. And he's going to have to show he's more than simply a caretaker who collects $30 million annually for delegating to his division heads. The man has an ego that makes Michael's look puny (you really need to ask a WDW CM what goes on when he comes to visit as he did in January ... his visits, including what doors he will enter at what exact time, are more choreographed than when politicians and celebs are there).
Eisner was rightfully crtiticized for being a micro-manager, something you just can't do with a media giant like TWDC.
But Iger appears to be the direct opposite. He doesn't want to get his hands dirty with anything. For a creative company, that isn't good either.
~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Can Lassater/Iger be the next Eisner/Wells (just to throw out a name)? It's a two man job to run WDC and Iger isn't two men the last time I checked.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Maybe they will run in reverse...? Bad first, then good?:lol:
SirGoofy
Member
Lasseter doesn't have anywhere close to the power that Wells had, and I doubt the bean counters will ever let him get anywhere close.