EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life

MrPromey

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I think thats part of the failure of sponsorship. If GM wants all of test track thats fine. But if they balk at the price why not bring in firestone as well. While I dont want the front of a pavilion looking like a nascar vehicle, you could tastefully have 5 companies listed, or make the main sponsor outside and display others inside. Vary control and marketing based on amount paid.

That's called Comunicore/Innoventions and they've already proven it can work so you're right.
 

MrPromey

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I wonder how long until disney negotiates avengers characters rights back to Disney. Everything has a price, and I could see universal getting a pretty penny for those marvel rights

Probably about the same time it'll take them to get the Simpson's back. 🤷‍♂️
 

Coaster Lover

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In the Parks
No
mural's and merch don't give Universal the rights to a character. The list of characters they have the rights to was set at the time the contact was made.

So, basically, we could say with confidence that ANY new Marvel character that debuted after 1999 would NOT be in the contract and should be fair game? I have to wonder if this is what WDW is waiting for... the MCU clearly seems to be setting up the Young Avengers and most (all?) of them debuted in comics that came out after 1999... I wonder what the contract says about variations of current characters... like Kid Loki or Miles Morales
 

lazyboy97o

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So, basically, we could say with confidence that ANY new Marvel character that debuted after 1999 would NOT be in the contract and should be fair game? I have to wonder if this is what WDW is waiting for... the MCU clearly seems to be setting up the Young Avengers and most (all?) of them debuted in comics that came out after 1999... I wonder what the contract says about variations of current characters... like Kid Loki or Miles Morales
Variants are not specifically addressed.
 

Movielover

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How would this have even worked? WDW can't use characters that are in the Avengers family.

Like I said earlier this could be a reason why it’s not happening
Maybe the WDW version would have been based on The Revengers!

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;)
 

Bocabear

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It honestly wouldn't be worth it for them. As a competitor, they know how vital Marvel would be to Disney's success. Selling it to Disney would be Universal shooting itself the foot, essentially providing easy success for their competition. At the moment, they're holding a large part of their biggest competition's potential success at bay.
I don't think they are holding their success at bay...Disney is already too successful financially... Disney also has a HUGE amount of IP usable and ready...eventually the super hero thing will wane in popularity and then it will be time for something else.
with several Superhero tv series and way too many movies, I am about sick of them...Give me something new to dream about that isn't uber-violent... It is time we as a society start realizing that we are becoming desensitized to violence and it is getting worse and worse.
 

doctornick

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How would this have even worked? WDW can't use characters that are in the Avengers family.

I'm curious as to what exactly the Avengers E-ticket is -usually it's described as some sort of Quinjet experience. Maybe somehow a variant on the FoP tech?

Anyway, my question is that if the ride is based more on the experience of being in battle and using a certain "tech", it might not really be dependent on specific characters for the story. Perhaps the idea was to do a similar experience as what was being planned for DCA but instead use different characters - e.g. maybe a "young avengers" like Ms. Marvel, Hulkling, Wiccan & Speed, America Chavez, etc. who should all likely be usable since they are new characters. I mean, the following scene doesn't seem like you need the specific characters depicted:

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You could have a similar experience with some tweaking. I dunno, just a thought, but I could see that as having been the idea at play here for Epcot.

Also, is the Avengers E-ticket actively being build at Hong Kong?
 

MiddKid

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I'm curious as to what exactly the Avengers E-ticket is -usually it's described as some sort of Quinjet experience. Maybe somehow a variant on the FoP tech?

Anyway, my question is that if the ride is based more on the experience of being in battle and using a certain "tech", it might not really be dependent on specific characters for the story. Perhaps the idea was to do a similar experience as what was being planned for DCA but instead use different characters - e.g. maybe a "young avengers" like Ms. Marvel, Hulkling, Wiccan & Speed, America Chavez, etc. who should all likely be usable since they are new characters. I mean, the following scene doesn't seem like you need the specific characters depicted:

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You could have a similar experience with some tweaking. I dunno, just a thought, but I could see that as having been the idea at play here for Epcot.

Also, is the Avengers E-ticket actively being build at Hong Kong?
That image is for the Avengers E-ticket for DCA. The entrance is there and the expansion pad for the show building sits empty.

Ride would start with all passengers riding in a Quinjet...traditional Star Tours-ish style as shown here:
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At some point the ship breaks apart and/or we eject for an individual flying experience over Wakanda
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Battle ensues with you taking part in your individual battle seat taking center stage in the battle.
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Unfortunately since the pre-COVID discussion of it, radio silence.
 

doctornick

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That image is for the Avengers E-ticket for DCA. The entrance is there and the expansion pad for the show building sits empty.



Right, I know this. The ride is "planned" for DCA and HKDL and is possible for the Studios in Paris. The reason why we are talking about it in this thread is because @marni1971 indicated that there was consideration for it to be also built in Epcot in the WoL footprint instead of building Play! but that never happened.

Interesting tidbit recently about the Quinjet ride is this:

You’re right. Passage has you sat down. Avengers has you stood up. Same ride system, different seats.

I would be curious how that work work especially given the concept art makes it seem like you are sitting at first, but maybe it isn't the case and you are standing in the Quinjet? Kinda wish they would build this if only to see exactly what it is like.

Also, if it were being considered for Epcot in some form (I'd guess with different characters), it would be nice it it were actually used as an anchor for a Marvel land in WDW (like, say, DCA). As we've discussed, there are characters they can use in WDW if they wish - Dr. Strange, Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel, etc so they could put together a proper land if they wanted.
 

FigmentFan82

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That image is for the Avengers E-ticket for DCA. The entrance is there and the expansion pad for the show building sits empty.

Ride would start with all passengers riding in a Quinjet...traditional Star Tours-ish style as shown here:
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At some point the ship breaks apart and/or we eject for an individual flying experience over Wakanda
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Battle ensues with you taking part in your individual battle seat taking center stage in the battle.
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Unfortunately since the pre-COVID discussion of it, radio silence.
Wow! Very cool concept. I can visualize the ship break apart being a pretty easy effect to achieve, a lift the curtain type thing, not unlike the screen reveal in FoP. As far as the individual battle parts, would one assume from this that each seat would also have some type of independent controlled movement? Individual Kuka arms or something of the like floating around an imax screen? Could be epic
 

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