Not to derail the thread. Yes, it took me a long time even watch the second episode of Discovery (based on the free Pilot episode). The constant sun lens flairs distracted me (78 lens flairs in the first episode). When I got CBS All Access Christmas 2019 due to the special offer, I gave Discovery a chance, the lens flairs eventually did calm down. I really liked it from Mudd on. Now, the explaination on why Discovery is so technlogicaly superior to all others and that the crew missions and names can never be mentioned, was a little weird.
Picard, I was eager to see from the get go. That is why I grabbed the special. Then I watched the show...... got through most episodes hoping the story line would get better. The only episode that had me entertained was Riker and Troi. I have not finished the first season yet. Don't know if I will.
So, now when do we think the walls come down and the water turned on?