Hocus Pocus Sequel Being Developed for Disney+

Disney Irish

Premium Member
67% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not great but not terrible either.

“CRITICS CONSENSUS
Hocus Pocus 2 is basically a boiling cauldron of nostalgia, but that's more than enough for this belated sequel to cast a reasonably effective spell.”

Guess that settles the "Disney pays so they only get good reviews" conspiracy, not happening.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
RT is being pretty fishy with She-Hulk. You can't see any of the Critics Reviews.

But you can see the viewers reviews though. Most of them are 1 star or less and the 4 and 5 star ones use very little detail in their descriptions. Like they either haven't watched it or they're bots.
When there has been an overwhelming number of "bots" review bombing RT has tended to hide the reviews. They've done it for a number of films and shows over the last couple years. So its not fishy, its a normal in a world where some get joy out of review bombing.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They can't do it every time, it would be like the boy who cried wolf. And they're not going to waste it on a direct to D+ movie.
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oogie boogie man

Well-Known Member
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They can't do it every time, it would be like the boy who cried wolf. And they're not going to waste it on a direct to D+ movie.

It's alright, they've got that covered too. They can just change the narrative away from the critics and blame the fans. That's what they always do nowadays if something doesn't do good. It's called Fan Baiting.
 

oogie boogie man

Well-Known Member
Um, the watch numbers are on full display via sites like Nielsen.

Also Ads are coming in December to D+.


Alright if we're just going by Nielsen it doesn't look too good for She-Hulk either. People don't want to watch someone go shopping for a suit for the whole half hour.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member

Alright if we're just going by Nielsen it doesn't look too good for She-Hulk either. People don't want to watch someone go shopping for a suit for the whole half hour.
Need to compare She-Hulk numbers to other half hour shows, not series with hour-long episodes since the metric is 'minutes watched' and not 'number of views.'

Or, double She-Hulk numbers.
 

tcool123

Well-Known Member

Alright if we're just going by Nielsen it doesn't look too good for She-Hulk either. People don't want to watch someone go shopping for a suit for the whole half hour.
Outdated information She-Hulk has been in the Top 10 Original streamed shows for the follwoing two weeks and has been rising. The second week the show was in 8th place, and in its third week it moved up the 6th place. People seem go be enjoying if your metric is being on the Nielsen rankings.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member

Alright if we're just going by Nielsen it doesn't look too good for She-Hulk either. People don't want to watch someone go shopping for a suit for the whole half hour.
That's a bit outdated, might want to check out the Nielsen thread where the weekly numbers are being shared:


Here is the recent one from this weeks Nielsen chart that shows She-Hulk is at number 6.

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networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Just watched it, thought it was okay. Wasn't bad but left feeling disappointed nonetheless.


I think it was solid. It didn't have the journey and exposition of the story, (its a sequel), but it did fill in some of the back stories of the Sanderson Sisters. The belter song I guess was the best that they could both procure the rights to and not interject another IP into the mix. Pretty good wrap-up with the ability to go further with new characters via the continuity of the large redwing blackbird.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I watched it today and it was quite a bit better than I expected, it probably won’t become a cult classic like the original but I think it’ll please most fans. Cute and entertaining.

As for reviews, they’re pretty irrelevant now, professional reviewers have always been a bit irrelevant because they’re more concerned with “artistic merit” rather than how entertaining a movie is but now real people reviews are skewed by activists who will review up/down a movie if it goes against/with their beliefs.

Fortunately with most movies quickly on Netflix, Disney, Amazon Prime, etc now you can just wait and watch them for free and decide for yourself without having to drop $15 on a ticket at the cinema.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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I'll be honest, as a HUGE fan of the original, I was ready to love this one but ended up disappointed. I didn't expect the magic of the original, but this one was more misguided than I had expected.

More than anything, the tone of this movie is just so different - the Sanderson Sisters are up to their old antics again, but so it seems is everyone else. The original is, of course, a comedy, but most of the broad humor was reserved exclusively for the Sandersons, who contrasted against everyone else who was playing it pretty straight. Beyond that most of the humor was situational - crazy things may have been happening, but most of the non-witch performances were grounded in reality, or at least grounded in some truth. Binx may be a cat, but he feels real guilt for the death of his sister, and that gets paid off in the end. There were occasional burts of wackiness from the likes of the Marshalls and the bullies, but even they felt decently believable.That balance of reality and fantasy was so important to making it work.

Reality seems to have gone out the window with this one. It feels as if everyone was directed to be mugging for the camera at all times, asking for laughs instead of playing their character. I think this is mostly a writing/directing issue, since most of the new characters are thinly written and the situations they find themselves in are perpetually silly. The Sisters do what they do well, but they have less to do this time and never get a real chance to bite the way they should. For all their hilarity, the original still made sure they felt dangerous - in this one they feel largely de-fanged. The death of Emily Binx at the beginning of the orignal set the stakes high for the rest of the movie - the Witches could kill, and they'll do it again if they get the chance. In this one there's little that suggests these Witches are much to fear - the bumbling that was originally a counterpoint to their villainy is now instead their main character trait.

And again, they're good enough at it that you could almost live with it, but then you get all these randos you don't care about padding out the movie with lesser attempts at the same shtick. Some of their preoccupations border on fully ridiculous (That bit with Tony Hale and the Candy Apple wore out its welcome before it even started, and then it just kept going. That character wasn't a real person, and hardly anybody in the movie even tries to be. The only characters there are to care about here are the Sandersons and Billy, but that's only because you already cared about them before pressing play.

This movie feels like what people who don't like Hocus Pocus think Hocus Pocus is. The secret sauce of the orignal was never that the chemistry of the Witches was so good, it's that their great chemistry was perfectly counterpointed by real stakes, a sense of danger, and a genuine edge that made you feel like you were watching something that maybe you shouldn't be. Not to mention that the whole thing was just bathed in great special effects, high production value (with some exceptions - looking at you CGI Binx) and a to-die-for aesthetic that felt like a Halloween dream. We knew the special effects would largely be CGI this time around, but they somehow also seem to have skimped on the Halloween Vibes as well. There are points where I almost forgot I was watching a Halloween movie, which is shocking. Many of the fabulous set pieces and actual locations in Salem have given way to locations that only hint at that the richness of the original.

I'm someone who's always thought that more Hocus Pocus is better than less, but this one is missing so much of that Hocus Pocus spirit it almost doesn't feel related. I'm sorry to say, if a third movie would be more like this than like the original then I would rather they not bother.
 
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