I'll take the hot seat as I aparently have experience with your kind.:lol:
Just give me a date and if at all possible make it on a weekend and I will be there.
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E:E Rumor
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Just give me a date and if at all possible make it on a weekend and I will be there.
Wilt Dasney
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Which is fine if you're making the Blair Witch Project or an artsy European psychological thriller.
I really feel like the way the Yeti was done was too high concept for a theme park ride. I like all the mystery and shadows, but there needs to be at least one real payoff at the end of all that.
Of course, it's probably a help that the Yeti encounter is so brief considering its problems. If you had to actually stare at a B-Mode Yeti "moving" under disco lights for several seconds, it would be a disaster. :lol:
Buried20KLeague
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Exprcoofto
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This thread got me in the E:E mood, now I had to go see some video of the making, as found here: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2007/11/expedition-everest-behind-scenes-photos.html :sohappy:
As for the rumor, my only concern is how the new "Yeti 2.0" will look like. Will it be the same size? Will it look the same? What exactly is the purpose of making a new one rather than fixing the current one?
As for the rumor, my only concern is how the new "Yeti 2.0" will look like. Will it be the same size? Will it look the same? What exactly is the purpose of making a new one rather than fixing the current one?
jt04
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90% is a guess but I'd wager it's not far off. As Epcotservo said, the ride is designed so that when you are done you are supposed to be questioning whether you saw what you thought you saw. I've heard JR say that this is exactly the way the ride is designed. Now the vast majority of guests don't know where the Yeti is but even if you do, and are looking for it, it's only then becomes obvious there is an A and B mode. Only a small percentage of guests are as aware about all the details as we are here. I know where the Yeti is and I don't see it being in b mode as a real big deal. A mode is nice but I guarantee you the first time through I would not have noticed afterward if it was in a or b. It was way to quick after seeing it for me to notice and as I said that is how Imagineering designed the experience.
Finally, a large percentage of guests are visiting for a short period and they are just hitting rides and moving on to the next. That is the 90% I am refering to. I'm not counting AP's and DVC folks in that who are almost all aware of the situation because they keep up to date on everything and they ride multiple times. So, Im standing by my estimate as I've explained as I obviously doubt Disney will release any survey results. I was expressing my opinion. If you have statistical data to refute me, by all means I'd welcome that. Until then I'll stick with my opinion thanks.
By the way, could it be that Disney realizes they don't "need" to run it in A mode? That maybe there just isn't a big difference to the vast majority of guests so they leave it in b mode? It could also be some sort of safety issue.
SirGoofy
Member
No hard data, but a friend was a manager there for a while.
The yeti generates a ton of complaints.
And as for you not thinking it matters, I'm not surprised.
I'm sure the bean counters think A mode isn't necessary, but you can be dang sure WDI doesn't think that way.
jt04
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No hard data, but a friend was a manager there for a while.
The yeti generates a ton of complaints.
And as for you not thinking it matters, I'm not surprised.
I'm sure the bean counters think A mode isn't necessary, but you can be dang sure WDI doesn't think that way.
Well, as I said, it could also be a safety issue. In which case they just aren't going to take any chances no matter how slight the risk is. Especially in today's "lawsuit happy" society.
SirGoofy
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jt04
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That's fin. But that can, and will(eventually
Meh, I've stated my opinion of what I think the best fix is. What bothers me is that we just don't have enough information to determine if Disney is just being lazy, pragmatic, or if there is a serious design flaw and nothing less than a new yeti will remedy the situation. We just don't know. I'm torn between they have just decided A or B are equally effective with the vast majority who, let's be honest, are focused on the roller coaster aspect the first time and maybe only time through or there is a serious design and/or safety flaw that has no quick fix.
Who knows? :shrug:
Wilt Dasney
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The idea that Disney might have just turned off "A" Mode without any underlying structural concern is pretty out there IMO. They go to all the expense and manpower of building this fantastic AA just to let it sit dormant because they can still run the ride without it? Doesn't make much sense.
Besides that, we have folks like Lee and Marni saying a new Yeti is being seriously considered. That wouldn't be the case unless there was a problem with the old one.
Besides that, we have folks like Lee and Marni saying a new Yeti is being seriously considered. That wouldn't be the case unless there was a problem with the old one.
EPCOT Explorer
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PurpleRose
Active Member
It always amuses me when someone tries to argue with SirGoofy. :lol:
I think the issue is that DAK doesn't have a lot of E ticket rides and taking EE down for an extended amount of time might hinder ticket sales into the park.
I think the issue is that DAK doesn't have a lot of E ticket rides and taking EE down for an extended amount of time might hinder ticket sales into the park.
SirGoofy
Member
That's what I'm here for.:lol:
That's easy to solve...build Beastly Kingdom first
EpcotServo
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Broken Trestle, you hear the Yeti, see footprints and the remnants of destruction caused by it. (This is to replicate Yeti sightings of the First Kind.)
Shadow of the Yeti, you indirectly see the shadowy figure of an unidentifiable creature. (Replicating a Yeti Sighting of the Second Kind)
And finally The Yeti, in which you directly see an unidentifiable creature with your own eyes and are physically threatened by it. (Real Yeti Sightings of the Third Kind.)
It's a "Best Of" of Real Yeti Reports. The idea was that people who have actually seen the Yeti don't see it standing still for minutes on end, tap dancing and singing show tunes.
:lol:
And for the record, Everest officially has Ten show scenes.
Forest Approach
The Ceremonial Staircase/ Monastery
The Chasm
Into The Mountains
Broken Trestle
Backwards
Shadow of the Yeti
Descent
The Yeti
Return
That's why Disney didn't open Test Track until it was ready.
And again, The Yeti didn't break because of a design flaw. It broke because of an accident. A Machine can't work forever. (See Life After People) What keeps a Machine from suffering accidents like this is care, preventive maintenance, and constant oversight. All of which most likely could have prevented this had they done it enough, which I wouldn't be surprised if they did not provide from Management.
(And Flawlessly was more of a turn of phrase, of course flaws happen in the design and building stage. What I meant was that on the whole Day 1 is an attraction's best.)
RSoxNo1
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That's a huge part of it. Animal Kingdom received a huge boost in attendance when Everest was built, and I speculate that the park ops people refuse to close the attraction because they'll see the attendance drop off.
This is what happens when performance is measured solely by attendance and profitability - sure those things are a strong indicator of guest satisfaction, but they can also be very short sighted. Of course, the short sightedness of some of the other lack of Animal Kingdom developments has also contributed to all of this.
That's why I think the real solution to fixing Everest is by making Dinosaur a better attraction. Right now, the demand for Dinosaur makes it easier to close than Everest - put that down for a refurb that improves its quality, market that as a new offering and ride the coattails of Dinosaur 2.0 while Everest is closed to fix existing problems and perhaps add new effects.
Really?
Figment632
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Weird Servo everything I heard about the Yeti is a design flaw.