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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

ToTBellHop

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From UCF today.
 

chrisvee

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Considering they were not out at all in Phila except for the hotel and to the ballpark. Considering the hotel has had zero cases. Considering the Phillies team has zero cases. A good guess would seem to be that it was there night out, at a club, in a city that’s rising in cases.
seems most likely based on what the rumor mill is saying about a night out in Atlanta

Phillies only have one positive case thus far and that’s a visiting clubhouse staffer so at least right now looking like Marlins brought it with them

and now Phillies have had the Marlins series, the next with Yankees, and now the first game with the Toronto Blue Jays postponed.
 
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mdcpr

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The Spanish Flu lasted a little more than 1 year, so if we take February as the starting point of Covid, only 7 more months to go!!!
 

havoc315

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Most of the deaths today were from weeks ago. There were like 13 actual deaths today.

No, there were far more than 13 deaths yesterday. Just like many of the deaths reported were from days and weeks ago. Many of the deaths from yesterday will be reported in the coming days and weeks.

I find the "truthers" are taking an interesting approach:
June 29: "only 28 deaths... see.. the increasing cases don't matter"
July 29th: 216 deaths reported: "but those were all from June 29th, so they don't matter!"
 

havoc315

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For a full shutdown to work, we would need all inter-state travel to completely stop. People would need to actually stay around the immediate area of their home. To be successful this would need also need to be enforced. So, track locations of all citizens and auto-alert authorities when someone is more than a mile from home? Anything less than that would just be a repeat of what we all went through during the first shutdown.

The solution in my mind leans more to a federal mask mandate and a change in public perception towards acceptance of the "new normal" (masks and physical distancing).

We need to stop thinking "all or none." For those countries and regions that have been more successful, it's usually for a combination of reasons. Not because they did 1 thing "completely."

You don't need to reduce inter-state travel by 100%. Though the more you reduce it, the more it will help. And no, you don't need to prevent every single citizen from leaving their home. But let's say you didn't use law enforcement means at all -- just voluntary compliance -- even 50% voluntary compliance would help significantly.

So your conclusion is probably right, overall -- It's about a combination of measures: Mask mandates, closure of higher risk activities, acceptance of some voluntary and some mandatory social distancing, significantly reduced travel.
 

havoc315

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Another 253 deaths and 9956 infections.

The "good" news is that it appears cases have plateaued since Florida tightened restrictions somewhat. It suggests deaths should ultimately stabilize.

The bad news... cases aren't exactly declining very quickly, if at all. 200+ deaths per day isn't exactly a level you want to stabilize at.
Over the next week or so, we should get a better idea of whether cases are actually dropping at a fair rate or not. If not, Florida will really have to consider tighter restrictions.
 

milordsloth

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We need to stop thinking "all or none." For those countries and regions that have been more successful, it's usually for a combination of reasons. Not because they did 1 thing "completely."

You don't need to reduce inter-state travel by 100%. Though the more you reduce it, the more it will help. And no, you don't need to prevent every single citizen from leaving their home. But let's say you didn't use law enforcement means at all -- just voluntary compliance -- even 50% voluntary compliance would help significantly.

So your conclusion is probably right, overall -- It's about a combination of measures: Mask mandates, closure of higher risk activities, acceptance of some voluntary and some mandatory social distancing, significantly reduced travel.

I agree with you here. Person I was responding to was saying we need a "full shutdown" and a "hard shutdown". I was attempting to show why a "full" shutdown to stop the spread would be nearly impossible.
 

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