Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

mdcpr

Well-Known Member
The Spanish Flu lasted a little more than 1 year, so if we take February as the starting point of Covid, only 7 more months to go!!!
 

havoc315

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Most of the deaths today were from weeks ago. There were like 13 actual deaths today.

No, there were far more than 13 deaths yesterday. Just like many of the deaths reported were from days and weeks ago. Many of the deaths from yesterday will be reported in the coming days and weeks.

I find the "truthers" are taking an interesting approach:
June 29: "only 28 deaths... see.. the increasing cases don't matter"
July 29th: 216 deaths reported: "but those were all from June 29th, so they don't matter!"
 

havoc315

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For a full shutdown to work, we would need all inter-state travel to completely stop. People would need to actually stay around the immediate area of their home. To be successful this would need also need to be enforced. So, track locations of all citizens and auto-alert authorities when someone is more than a mile from home? Anything less than that would just be a repeat of what we all went through during the first shutdown.

The solution in my mind leans more to a federal mask mandate and a change in public perception towards acceptance of the "new normal" (masks and physical distancing).

We need to stop thinking "all or none." For those countries and regions that have been more successful, it's usually for a combination of reasons. Not because they did 1 thing "completely."

You don't need to reduce inter-state travel by 100%. Though the more you reduce it, the more it will help. And no, you don't need to prevent every single citizen from leaving their home. But let's say you didn't use law enforcement means at all -- just voluntary compliance -- even 50% voluntary compliance would help significantly.

So your conclusion is probably right, overall -- It's about a combination of measures: Mask mandates, closure of higher risk activities, acceptance of some voluntary and some mandatory social distancing, significantly reduced travel.
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
Another 253 deaths and 9956 infections.

The "good" news is that it appears cases have plateaued since Florida tightened restrictions somewhat. It suggests deaths should ultimately stabilize.

The bad news... cases aren't exactly declining very quickly, if at all. 200+ deaths per day isn't exactly a level you want to stabilize at.
Over the next week or so, we should get a better idea of whether cases are actually dropping at a fair rate or not. If not, Florida will really have to consider tighter restrictions.
 

milordsloth

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We need to stop thinking "all or none." For those countries and regions that have been more successful, it's usually for a combination of reasons. Not because they did 1 thing "completely."

You don't need to reduce inter-state travel by 100%. Though the more you reduce it, the more it will help. And no, you don't need to prevent every single citizen from leaving their home. But let's say you didn't use law enforcement means at all -- just voluntary compliance -- even 50% voluntary compliance would help significantly.

So your conclusion is probably right, overall -- It's about a combination of measures: Mask mandates, closure of higher risk activities, acceptance of some voluntary and some mandatory social distancing, significantly reduced travel.

I agree with you here. Person I was responding to was saying we need a "full shutdown" and a "hard shutdown". I was attempting to show why a "full" shutdown to stop the spread would be nearly impossible.
 

oceanbreeze77

Well-Known Member
By all accounts it looks like it’s thankfully been contained to just Marlins players and coaches.
We won't know for another week or so. It'll still take sometime for the Phillies to test positive and other people they came in contact with.
They cancelled the Phillies games through Thursday just in case. It seems contained to the Marlins now, but we most likely will never know if anyone in the community got infected. Hopefully nobody had close contact without masks, but not all the players were actively wearing them, even off the field
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
seems impossible to have a season for that reason and also bc the cancellations + reschedules are going to have a material impact on outcomes
It‘s going to be difficult to make up all these games and there’s no way they can push the end of the season back so the only option is going to be to cut off the last week or 2 of the season and use the last few weeks of September to make up games missed. The teams have to play the same number of games but it’s looking more likely to be 45 or 50 games instead of the full 60. If this happens too often it may just be a cancel on the season, or they an alternate plan is they could start the playoffs 9/15 and have everyone make it, then it’s not an issue that some teams played more games then others. In each league you give the top seed a bye and seeds 2 through 15 play 5 game series in a week to get down to 8 teams in each league then the next week play round 2 to get to 4 teams in each league. Each 5 game series is all played at home for the higher seed so no travel days. Then normal playoffs starting 10/1 With 7 game series and travel again.
 

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