Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

GoofGoof

Premium Member
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Not sure if it’s possible to contract trace and determine without a doubt that a guest was infected while on WDW property.

This is just my opinion, but with all the precautions WDW has in place and with specifically the mask rule being followed by what looks like 98 percent of everyone there, you are more than likely to Get COVID when traveling to the gates of WDW and after you leave WDW.

Let’s say someone knows they have COVID and really wants to go on their WDW vacation, I can’t speak for how many folks they will infect while getting there and after they leave, but if they truly follow all the rules while at WDW, it’s a low chance they will infect someone with the outside possibility of the seated dining.
Except while dining and potentially swimmimg in the pool. Those are the main parts of WDW where I see spread as very likely. We’ve seen lots of evidence that inside dining is a source of spread and most people at WDW are eating all there meals in restaurants (unless you have a DVC villa). Some are outdoors, but most are not. If that infected person is at the table next to you for an hour while you eat that’s high risk for infection. The pools are a little less problematic because they are outside but still close contact without a mask. There’s also the less likely route of surface contact infection. Buses, boats, monorails, ride vehicles lots of surface contact. They offer hand sanitizers but there’s no guarantee everyone uses them diligently. There are kids who are notoriously bad with hygiene and also the Covid denier crowd who think the virus is no big deal so may not care. I do agree that walking around the parks with a mask on you are unlikely to get infected even if you come in close proximity to a positive person.
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
I dunno. Per the dashboard, in the last six weeks the positivity rate has gone from 12.18% to 14.98% at the end of June and now down 11.5% last week. In the other thread it shows it's been under 10% for the past two days. That seems like a positive trend overall. If you look at Orange County it's dropped from 16.87% to 8.29% over the past six weeks. That doesn't seem to indicate that there has been a massive spread over the last month. It seems more like an indication that mitigation strategies are working. Hopefully people keep them up.

Both can be true. Yes — mitigation strategies are helping, spread is slowing.
But positivity rate of around 10% still represents massive ongoing spread. Just getting a bit less massive.
 

rowrbazzle

Well-Known Member
Both can be true. Yes — mitigation strategies are helping, spread is slowing.
But positivity rate of around 10% still represents massive ongoing spread. Just getting a bit less massive.

Yes. From what I understand 10% indicates a good amount of community spread. If the rates are decreasing, though, I wouldn't describe that as a "massive increase in spread." That's what I was trying to say, but inadvertantly omitted a couple words. I hope people remain vigilant and it continues to drop.
 

DisneyCane

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Can Disney world and / or Orange County impose a quarantine requirement on visitors from Miami-Dade county? I mean Disney world technically has its own incorporated government entity / town so I don’t see why they couldn’t pass a local ordinance
By Florida Law, no. Even the quarantine orders for out of state visitors was/is probably not enforceable by Florida law. The law requires that a person is "reasonably believed to have been exposed to a communicable disease," in order for them to be quarantined. Living in a county where less than 1% of the population is infected at any given time is not enough to "reasonably believe" that they have been exposed.
 

Disstevefan1

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But that's the point -- Getting there, leaving there, eating there -- those are all parts of the equation. Closing Disney World wouldn't be a "punishment" for their own actions. It would simply be recognition that getting there, leaving there, dining there and near there, etc -- are all high risks.

I hear you. Point A is perfectly safe but leaving your home to get to point A is unsafe.

By that logic, we should never leave your home and while the lockdown did an excellent job of reducing spread just how long must be locked in our homes?

Many are fortunate to be able to work from home, but there are many folks, like WDW cast members that simply can’t.

There are no easy answers here...
 

arich35

Active Member
Been away for a couple weeks, how have the parks been doing? Any important updates to what has been going on at the parks?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Been away for a couple weeks, how have the parks been doing? Any important updates to what has been going on at the parks?
The parks are open and empty. So far so good on the virus front. They did need to clarify the mask rules to close some loopholes. Outside of that no issues that I have seen reported other than lighter than expected and hoped for attendance.
 

arich35

Active Member
The parks are open and empty. So far so good on the virus front. They did need to clarify the mask rules to close some loopholes. Outside of that no issues that I have seen reported other than lighter than expected and hoped for attendance.

I assume no news on things that are currently closed or not happening at the parks?
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
I hear you. Point A is perfectly safe but leaving your home to get to point A is unsafe.

By that logic, we should never leave your home and while the lockdown did an excellent job of reducing spread just how long must be locked in our homes?

Many are fortunate to be able to work from home, but there are many folks, like WDW cast members that simply can’t.

There are no easy answers here...

No. The logic is — reduce travel to what is essential. It’s not all or none. A local trip to the supermarket or a local trip to the doctor is very different than flying/ driving for hours to ride Splash Mountain.

Agreed there are no easy answers. But it’s low wage employees that have the least options. Any real closure policy includes financial assistance to affected workers (including enhanced unemployment).

By being “open,” you’re taking any real choice. Those who are “fortunate” can still choose to stay home, reduce risks. But Disney cast members... can no longer qualify for assistance. so it’s either risk Covid by serving Dolewhip or go bankrupt and get evicted.

No, there are no easy answers, but economic activity needs to be measured on a scale of multiple factors:
1. How widespread is the virus. (More wide spread must mean clamp down more on activity)
2. how essential vs luxury is the activity. A grocery store is different than a bowling alley. A school is more essential than a movie theater.
3. How high risk is the activity for transmission. A bar is more dangerous than a golf course. A theme park is more dangerous than a nature trail.

Based on a weighing of factors, theme parks should be among the very last things to be open. They are purely luxury businesses. They have fairly high risk of disease spread (as they include dining, travel, etc).

Let’s put is this way.... which is more important, theme parks over the summer or school in the fall?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I assume no news on things that are currently closed or not happening at the parks?
The only update I saw was that they delayed opening multiple resorts that were going to open in August. I believe Beach Club, Boardwalk, Poly and Art of Animation were all pushed back or delayed indefinitely. The parks are still open the same hours as originally listed but Universal cut back their hours and there is at least some rumblings of parks possibly going to less than 7 days a week open.
 
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