Disney considering a new World Showcase pavilion BY REMOVING AN EXISTING COUNTRY?!?!

HMF

Well-Known Member
Hitler? Stalin?
OK' history lesson time.
Communism was an idea had by Karl Marx that everyone should live in a classless society where there would be no exploitation of the workers and essentially where every person worked for the good of each other and the state. On paper this seemed like a noble cause but what happened was these ideas were easily corruptible and led to power hungry dictators such as Stalin who forced his will on all the people. Enemies of the state were severely punished or executed thus began the evil tyrannical aspect of communism that came to define the system. Hitler on the other hand was a fascist' He despised communism and essentially took control of Germany. He successfully managed to brainwash almost an entire country into serving his twisted ideology. Nazism was founded purely on evil intentions. Communism was founded on good intentions gone horribly wrong. The word "Communism" was thrown around frequently in the 1950s and more recently as a fear tactic for example communism= evil so all evil governments must be communist which is where a lot of these mis-conceptions come from. Communism is similar to a Greek Tragedy' A person with good intentions corrupted into doing evil things. I see no honorable intentions at all in Nazism. Essentially there are mis-conceptions about things in history which are fed by propaganda and the passage of time. Things are not all as black and white as they seem. OK I am done now.
 

_Scar

Active Member
OK' history lesson time.
Communism was an idea had by Karl Marx that everyone should live in a classless society where there would be no exploitation of the workers and essentially where every person worked for the good of each other and the state. On paper this seemed like a noble cause but what happened was these ideas were easily corruptible and led to power hungry dictators such as Stalin who forced his will on all the people. Enemies of the state were severely punished or executed thus began the evil tyrannical aspect of communism that came to define the system. Hitler on thee other hand was a fascist' He despised communism and essentially took control of Germany. He successfully managed to brainwash almost an entire country into serving his twisted ideology. Nazism was founded purely on evil intentions. Communism was founded on good intentions gone horribly wrong. The word "Communism" was thrown around frequently in the 1950s and more recently as a fear tactic for example communism= evil so all evil governments must be communist which is where a lot of these mis-conceptions come from. Communism is similar to a Greek Tragedy' A person with good intentions corrupted into doing evil things. I see no honorable intentions at all in Nazism. Essentially there are mis-conceptions about things in history which are fed by propaganda and the passage of time. Things are not all as black and white as they seem. OK I am done now.


Dear God- OKAY they were not communists. In fact, they're anything but communists.

Happy? :lol: ;)

Let's just leave it at that and focus on the current poisitioning of the countries, which we all can agree is a little odd since less than 40 years ago from when they premiered at Epcot were they were all in a massive war. Ironic? I think so :shrug:
 

Next Big Thing

Well-Known Member
There is a lot of Morroco hate, but the thing is, they are probably the one pavillion that WONT go anywhere if for any reason because Morocco is the only country that has full control over its pavillion. The other countries didnt pay the full amount required to get full control but morroco did.
 

UnrealFire

New Member
There is a lot of Morroco hate, but the thing is, they are probably the one pavillion that WONT go anywhere if for any reason because Morocco is the only country that has full control over its pavillion. The other countries didnt pay the full amount required to get full control but morroco did.

Agreed. In any case, no countries are going anywhere.
 

RobGraves

New Member
it is funny how people tend to confuse and equate communism and fascism... and then equate both to socialism. Thus proving they dont know a ****** thing.

Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy. Like you know... if the government was contolled by oil companies, pharmacutical companies, and other corporations.... whew, that would be scary wouldnt it.
 

Thrill Seeker

Well-Known Member
I'd say Greece should be the one added. It would be a very different pavilion from the rest, Greek food is great and come on, a Hercules dark ride would be fantastic!!! Replace the Outpost with Greece!
 

_Scar

Active Member
it is funny how people tend to confuse and equate communism and fascism... and then equate both to socialism. Thus proving they dont know a ****** thing.

Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy. Like you know... if the government was contolled by oil companies, pharmacutical companies, and other corporations.... whew, that would be scary wouldnt it.

I think you forgot the most important word with facists: nationalism.

:animwink:
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
^^^^

No, no, no...

Heal Morocco, Hurt The Outpost.

;)

Yes, yes, yes!

I don't get all the Morocco hate! From a strictly objective viewpoint, Morocco is no worse off then Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, or Japan. All those countries lack an attraction, just like Morocco, and in fact, if you really want to analyze it, Germany, Italy, and the UK are worse off. Why? Morocco has full counter and table service restaurants, numerous shops, an exhibit area, and regular daily entertainment both inside Restaurant Marrakesh and along the promenade. Currently, Germany and Italy only have table service with no counter option (yes, Germany has a pretzel and dessert stand, but thats hardly full counter service) and the UKs counter service only serves Fish n Chips. Germany's entertainment is usually limited to inside the restaurant, and Italy has been spotty with its daily offering, sometimes having nothing.

Morocco also has an exhibit area that Germany, Italy, and the UK lack. Not to mention, Morocco is much more detailed and authentic in terms of layout and architecture. So, when you look at the facts, Morocco is far from the weakest pavilion in World Showcase. Sure, it could use plussing, but just because a majority of this country can't find it on a map, or that some Epcot visitors decide its not worth their time to explore the pavilion, does not mean it needs to disappear from World Showcase. :brick:
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Yes, yes, yes!

I don't get all the Morocco hate! From a strictly objective viewpoint, Morocco is no worse off then Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, or Japan. All those countries lack an attraction, just like Morocco, and in fact, if you really want to analyze it, Germany, Italy, and the UK are worse off. Why? Morocco has full counter and table service restaurants, numerous shops, an exhibit area, and regular daily entertainment both inside Restaurant Marrakesh and along the promenade. Currently, Germany and Italy only have table service with no counter option (yes, Germany has a pretzel and dessert stand, but thats hardly full counter service) and the UKs counter service only serves Fish n Chips. Germany's entertainment is usually limited to inside the restaurant, and Italy has been spotty with its daily offering, sometimes having nothing.

Morocco also has an exhibit area that Germany, Italy, and the UK lack. Not to mention, Morocco is much more detailed and authentic in terms of layout and architecture. So, when you look at the facts, Morocco is far from the weakest pavilion in World Showcase. Sure, it could use plussing, but just because a majority of this country can't find it on a map, or that some Epcot visitors decide its not worth their time to explore the pavilion, does not mean it needs to disappear from World Showcase. :brick:

One of the "musts" in my personal tour around the WS. Their iced mint tea is sublime on hot summer days......
 

majortom1981

Active Member
Hmm

I would think germany would be a canidate cosnidering the sheer amount of space they have for a ride.

Now that I saw an overhead view of the world showcase why not use the outpost location . Behind it is just a bunch of grass and dirt. The perfect spot for a new country.It has enough space for a country with a ride.
 

SeaCastle

Well-Known Member
I would think germany would be a canidate cosnidering the sheer amount of space they have for a ride.

Now that I saw an overhead view of the world showcase why not use the outpost location . Behind it is just a bunch of grass and dirt. The perfect spot for a new country.It has enough space for a country with a ride.

More like two countries with rides.
 

mas

New Member
Isn't China going to own the whole thing pretty soon anyway? Maybe just one giant China pavilion with a Wal-Mart in the middle???

Mary Ann
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