Rob562
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I think by "would love to get" he meant for the Mountain in Florida, not himself personally.
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I think by "would love to get" he meant for the Mountain in Florida, not himself personally.
-Rob
Pete C
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I think by "would love to get" he meant for the Mountain in Florida, not himself personally.
-Rob
You, sir, are correct!
burninup4nick
New Member
i dont ride SM so this refurb isnt that exciting to me. but i know many of u on here have been anxiously awaiting a refurb so im happy for all of u!!!!
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
Any word on a new lift scene? Or better yet, enclosed lift tunnels with effects like a few other SM's around the world?
That would fix the light bleed issue from the lift area too... But it would clash with the way the TTA currently can see that quick portion of the ride.
That would fix the light bleed issue from the lift area too... But it would clash with the way the TTA currently can see that quick portion of the ride.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I don't know much about the mechanics of coasters ... but that thing needs something major. If it were running in the US parks there would be lawsuits left and right.
As to RnRC, it isn't nearly as bad as DLP's SM ... but it is still pushing my limits for head banging. Also, FWIW, the DSP version is much, much smoother ... of course, it's also three years newer and runs for considerably fewer hours annually.
I don't know. I rode RnRC about 5 years ago and it was VERY rough but the last couple times (after the latest refurb) it was smooth as glass and very enjoyable. I'm not even sure if they did anything with the track but something was different. It moved way up on my list of favorite rides at WDW.
mcjaco
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The problem with Vekoma tends to be their wheels. You can often slip your fingers between the wheels and the track. That's a lot of play for the trains to bang around.
B&M's wheels are always in contact with the track on all sides. I have no idea why Vekoma can't figure this out.
B&M's wheels are always in contact with the track on all sides. I have no idea why Vekoma can't figure this out.
Lee
Adventurer
Basically, the better the wheels grip the track, the smoother the ride. The track itself doesn't really change much over the years, but the way the trains run on them does. If the wheels are gripping well...ride won't head bang too much.
Out at Central Shops they have (or did have) a HUGE supply of wheels for RnRC, so there's no real need for them to run with worn out wheels.
Lee
Adventurer
Oh, they've figured it out. It's just up to the park to keep the wheels changed out. For some reason, Vekomas just wear down quicker. I've been on B&Ms that rattled around pretty good...like Scream at Magic Mountain. Very Vekoma-like the day I rode it. You can also really tell when Hulk needs new wheels.
Brian Noble
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There's a really large variance in how well Vekomas track after a few years. For example, Kong, a Vekoma SLC at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, is just a notoriously awful headbanger. I rode it in 2004ish, and it was awful.
Thunderhawk, exactly the same model coaster, built in exactly the same year, had a much better reputation, and indeed, when I rode it in 2007, it was actually quite a lot of fun. The ride has been relocated to Michigan's Adventure, and was reported to be relatively smooth there as well.
I don't think it's the track so much as it is the wheels and undercarriage of the car. My guess is that a park has to be really on top of wheel/assembly replacement to keep those running well.
Edited to add: wow, I must be a really slow typist. What those guys all said---it's gotta be the wheels.
mcjaco
Well-Known Member
This is probably the biggest issue.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
see below
to quote Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber:
Lloyd: What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary: Well, that's pretty difficult to say.
Lloyd: Hit me with it! I've come a long way to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.
if only real gambling were like that....
hokielutz
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This is all great news if it does turn out to be true!!
Also, its not rocket science to understand that replacing the supports now while replacing the track will benefit the attraction in the long run. Better to replace them now and get 40+ years out of it, than to not replace the supports and have to redo them in 7-15 at a much higher cost.
mcjaco
Well-Known Member
I think some Vekoma's are cursed to a life of headbanging. Others are acceptable with the right amount of love.
RnRC at DHS gets lots of love so, it's behaved better. I understand that isn't the case at DLP.
Indeed, but bean counters don`t think like that. Remember SSEs ride system is irreparably damaged since they wouldn`t spend a couple of thousand on some bearings. The prime example however has to be Rocket Rods, and how Harris wouldn`t spend and extra $5m on a $60m project despite being told the consequences. I really hope they have learnt, but a lot of the forthcoming Orlando track replacement wasn`t TDOs decision; it came from outside the company and they had no choice.