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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

yensidtlaw1969

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Same here but nothing more. Maybe a better squid. Maybe no squid !
Would LOVE to see the squid improved - for as cool as I still think it is, it moved like MAGIC back in the early days of the walkthrough. Restoring that level of motion (or, dare I dream . . . improving even further??) is what the figure and the attraction deserve.

For all the attention the Dragon gets from guests at DLP, I wish that same energy was held for the Squid. An improved version of the show might be what it needs to draw more people down into the sub.

I'd raise hell if the squid was removed.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Imagine a 20,000 Leagues ride where the DLP walkthrough is the queue and then you board the TDS ride from the Nautilus.

Imagine if that had replaced the WDW ride instead of what we have now...
Stooooooop, my heart can't take it . . .

I'm still gunning for a TDS 20K Sub-style ride for Pandora at Animal Kingdom based on The Way of Water . . . but obviously I would prefer YOUR idea!
 

SplashJacket

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Honestly, I was severely disappointed by TDS 20,000, but I haven’t talked to many people about it, so I would be curious to hear what other people like about it
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Apparently so. Roughly around when TDS was being designed.
Oh goodness - I thought you meant it was being bandied around again in recent times. I'd love to think Disney might consider building something like that again these days, but it does seem so unlikely.

Honestly, I was severely disappointed by TDS 20,000, but I haven’t talked to many people about it, so I would be curious to hear what other people like about it
Having not actually ridden in person, I think the appeal for me comes from the combination of the IP, the ride system, the unique dry-for-wet approach, and out of my general love for charming little C-Ticket Dark Rides and undersea environments.

I have heard other people say they came away from it disappointed, so I'm not so shocked to hear you say that, though I wonder if it's one of those Na'vi River Journey situations where the expectations for the property and the wait time combine to raise hopes beyond what the ride was ever designed to exceed.

From videos online it does seem like the ride is good for what it is, it just doesn't aim to be a WDW 20K E-Ticket situation. Which, admittedly, I think we deserve from 20,000 Leagues.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Having not actually ridden in person, I think the appeal for me comes from the combination of the IP, the ride system, the unique dry-for-wet approach, and out of my general love for charming little C-Ticket Dark Rides and undersea environments.

It's better in person, if a little awkward to get in and out of the ride vehicles if you're a taller person and sit on those little benches.

The ride has great replay value. The scenery is detailed enough that if you're sitting in front of one porthole you don't see everything, so you have to come back and sit somewhere else. The little joystick-controlled flashlight also lets you look for more hidden details.

At 5 minutes or so, it doesn't feel too short. It's about the same as the old WDW ride indoor portion and hits a number of the same beats (squid, lost city, shipwrecks, bioluminescent deep waters etc).

If you ride by yourself it's actually somewhat creepy. It's a very literal dark ride and there's something inherently unnerving about being in a claustrophobic little pod at the bottom of the ocean, but that's part of the adventure. The dry for wet is very convincing too.

All narration is in Japanese, but it's not hard to understand what's going on, especially if you're familiar with the two former American Submarine Voyages.

I love it. I'd put it #1 or #2 at DisneySea, behind maybe Sindbad. I'm biased, but it makes me so happy every time I ride it. My last two trips I never saw very long lines for it compared to other DisneySea rides. Maybe 45 minutes at most. Usually quieter towards the beginning or end of the day like most rides. Obviously, it depends upon when you go.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Funny story, there's a part of the ride where a moray eel pops out of a hole in a ship. You only see it from the left porthole, but if you're sitting there it jumps out pretty close to you. Startled me the first time, not knowing it was there. A second time a little kid was sitting in that bench and sure enough when mr eel showed it she SCREAMED, lol. WDI doesn't make 'em like they used to.
 

fradz

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Having not actually ridden in person, I think the appeal for me comes from the combination of the IP, the ride system, the unique dry-for-wet approach, and out of my general love for charming little C-Ticket Dark Rides and undersea environments.

I have heard other people say they came away from it disappointed, so I'm not so shocked to hear you say that, though I wonder if it's one of those Na'vi River Journey situations where the expectations for the property and the wait time combine to raise hopes beyond what the ride was ever designed to exceed.

From videos online it does seem like the ride is good for what it is, it just doesn't aim to be a WDW 20K E-Ticket situation. Which, admittedly, I think we deserve from 20,000 Leagues.
I've ridden it twice and your assessment is accurate. It's a very fun ride, if you come with expectation similar to a fantasyland DR / C ticket then it's really a good surprise. Plus the environnement in which the ride is set is quite special. Imo it's a must ride, especially for a first timer and the wait times tend to be around 15-20 min which is fairly low. If you expect an E, you will be disappointed. Otherwise you will have a pleasant time
 

montydysquith-navarro

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I've ridden it twice and your assessment is accurate. It's a very fun ride, if you come with expectation similar to a fantasyland DR / C ticket then it's really a good surprise. Plus the environnement in which the ride is set is quite special. Imo it's a must ride, especially for a first timer and the wait times tend to be around 15-20 min which is fairly low. If you expect an E, you will be disappointed. Otherwise you will have a pleasant time
Ditto. 20,000 Leagues was my family's first ride in TDS and we found it overall pleasant (albeit slightly confusing due to the narration being only in Japanese). It's definitely not spectacular like Journey (which was temporarily closed for refurbishment when we went to TDS), but it was enough to whet our appetites for TDS attractions.

And it's definitely more pleasant that the original 20,000/Finding Nemo submarines at Disneyland. I remember someone describing it after we rode Finding Nemo as a hot and leaky petri dish.
 

mrflo

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Anyone know what happened with all the flat rides that were supposedly coming to the new main street? Only Tangled survived?
The original concept art of the WDS expansion had one attraction that looked like Alien Swirling Saucers from TSL in WDW. This has now been replaced by the Tangled ride. I am not aware of any other flat ride that was planned. With Tangled and the already existing ones in the Pixar/TSL area there will be already six flat rides in the park. That's probably even that largest amount of flat rides in any Disney park - from a proportional perspective for sure.
 

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