MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Ice Gator]

In another dimension somewhere. Br’er Rabbit is bidding on a Redhead at an auction.

Man. Wish I was there.

I have nightmares that the HM stretching room is next on the “modern retheme” chopping block… but I refuse to think about it. It’s all just a bad dream. Let the one slightly scary ride in MK keep being scary.

 

[LittleBuford]

The whole "we don't know the whole thing" excuse kept being used time and time again to squash all objective discussion of this project.

It wasn’t an excuse, and it wasn’t being “used” for the reason you claim.

Also, no discussion of this project has been or can be objective. We’re dealing with human reactions and emotions.

 

[BrianLo]

I have to take a trip every two years. It’s how DVC works.

I am trying to rent my points out instead, but nobody wants them.

Can I interest you in a stay at the Boardwalk?

Sure you are...

Boardwalk is easily rentable via any broker and in high demand. You can also resell it for likely more than you bought it for if you want.

PS: This is not a "don't go" post, but more a don't pretend like you are being forced into it. It's a shtick all the DVC addicts don't want to own up to. Everyone clearly still likes the product - especially if you continue to own their timeshare.

 

[Brer Panther]

I don't think Disneyland will retain all of the old AS animatronics either. Though if what Splash Archive said on Twitter is correct, there should be a few that return. How many that entails, I don't know.

Let's see... which America Sings animatronics were also featured in the Magic Kingdom version?

- The geese
- The bullfrogs
- The porcupine
- The raccoon
- Brer Roadrunner
- The possums
- The Laughin' Place weasels
- The vultures
- The Swamp Boys
- The chickens, can-can geese, and organ-playing pig on the riverboat
- Saddlesore Swanson

I wouldn't expect any of those characters to stick around for the Disneyland version. Maybe the Hitchhiking Alligator, but I'd be shocked if even HE made it in.

Given the way corporate reacted to that, I have no doubt they wouldn’t hesitate to start attacking the fans.

It'll probably be like the Little Mermaid remake - they'll just brush off everyone who hates it as racist.

- Lari adds nothing to the post-splashdown tunnel. He may be mentioned in another line of dialouge but I didn't hear it in the POV I watched.

None of the new characters actually did anything, but Lari takes the cake regarding complete non-entities. Did he even appear in any of the previous scenes? I know he's in the finale.

Also, that was clearly just a statue. Not even a limited motion figure, just a statue. I'm sorry, but that's just pathetic.

I have gotten to the point where I know what I want to experience in each park and it’s not the new stuff. It’s MuppetVision, ToT, Fantasmic, Spaceship Earth, Figment, GOTG (exception), LWTL, Tiki Room, things like that.

Yeah, I'm like that too. Most of the new stuff isn't doing much for me.

Philarmagic is highly underrated another one of my favorites. Could use some more scenes though.

I still think "randomizing" it a la Star Tours would be neat. You could even include a Princess and the Frog song or two in there.

Well, I did hear that at one point, the Laughin’ Place replacement was even more boring and an exec suggested something “more exciting”. This could explain the shrinking storyline coming out of no where and ending just as abruptly as it starts: it was shoehorned in.

You wouldn't happen to know what the original plan for the Laughin' Place scene was, do you? I'm curious.

What fans call "more exciting: Dr. Facillier causing mayhem and pulling us up the big lift.

What Disney calls "more exciting": Mondo
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I mean, I do like the design of this bullfrog (he reminds me of Binya Binya from Gullah Gullah Island) but he doesn't actually DO anything.

or that Claude the Louisiana Black Bear "is frequently funny without intending to be" if none of that is reflected in the ride?

Are the black bears even still black bears? They looked brown in the ride to me.

Do we know what happened to the gophers in the ceiling?

Probably scrapped the parts, just like the other Splash Mountain animatronics.

Or.. ‘Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: With Br’er Rabbit’


So the fix for the redo is this (ala Journey Into Your Imagination ‘99 to With Figment ‘02).. Tiana’s planning her critter band party just like the first redo but she discovers a new critter has wanted to join in on the fun, Br’er Rabbit and it happens he’s looking for his laughing place.. so what better way to get a laugh than to hijack/screw up/prank Tiana’s party plans every step of the way, Tiana & Louis getting annoyed with him ala Dr. Channing until the very end when Tiana & Louis finally learn from Br’er Rabbit “Everybody’s Got a Laughin’ Place, it’s just people need to take the time to look for it.” and it ends with her, Louis, her friends, and Br’er Rabbit and some reused AAs from the previous ride laughing altogether at the end/finale

Just a way to rub salt on the wound like With Figment did on the fan complaints surrounding the redo, under the masquerade of a “return/comeback”.

I'd go on an attraction where the entire plot is Brer Rabbit tormenting Bob Iger.

There actually were plans for something like this back in the early aughts called Splash Mountain Boys that explained the whole backstory behind Splash Mountain and why Chick-A-Pin Hill got flooded.

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We were robbed.

THIS! And I hope whoever thought of that petition who's now seeing the end result is now regretting that decision.

I think they have, wish they were interviewed on the media though.

I don't know if whoever started the petition was interviewed, but Frederick Chambers was.

 

[EagleScout610]

My friend is at Magic Kingdom tonight and they just called that it's down for the rest of the night due to technical difficulties.

 

[mastromjm]

My friend is at Magic Kingdom tonight and they just called that it's down for the rest of the night due to technical difficulties.

Correct, fire alarms were going off at the ride. My preview is scheduled for tomorrow but cast was apparently not optimistic about reopening tomorrow.

 

[JohnD]

I have nightmares that the HM stretching room is next on the “modern retheme” chopping block… but I refuse to think about it. It’s all just a bad dream. Let the one slightly scary ride in MK keep being scary.

It's been mentioned on one of those clickbait sites as "problematic."

 

[EagleScout610]

Update from friend - They're doing a reset now so it  could come backup tonight

 

[IanDLBZF]

From the desk of Forbes.com...

Disney Spoils Its Own Ride And Pays The Price

Disney's theme park design division is famous for its secrecy. So when it posted a full video of its newest attraction a month before it launched it seemed to be the dawn of a whole new world. It may not last for long.

www.forbes.com

 

[JohnD]

Correct, fire alarms were going off at the ride. My preview is scheduled for tomorrow but cast was apparently not optimistic about reopening tomorrow.

 

[Professortango1]

It wasn’t an excuse, and it wasn’t being “used” for the reason you claim.

Also, no discussion of this project has been or can be objective. We’re dealing with human reactions and emotions.

While I could never know anyone's true motives, it did feel like a majority of the "we can't judge the attraction until we see it all" was aimed at observations that contained negative criticism rather than positive.

Also, I think looking at patterns, history, and the material available can be objective. But I also think that works of art and literature can be deemed objectively bad or good or in-between when a consensus of experts occurs.

History is nuanced, but I do think it can be objective even if different schools of study color the analysis in different ways. I believe the same is possible for looking at theme park attraction design and speculation on upcoming projects by the same management teams.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I’m not going to engage with your trolling. I don’t know who you are but find someone else.

How am I trolling?

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

It’s pretty exceptional.

Thank you! I've enjoyed other parts of the forum, thankfully, this has just been a huge red flag and Im glad to hear its not all like that

Unfortunately there are quite a handful of regular posters who regularly bash, dismiss and just straight up bring down the conversation every chance they get. I would suggest a heavy use of the ignore feature.

Thank you for letting me know, I didn't even know there was an ignore feature. That would've saved me a great deal of time through all this lmao

 

[JohnD]

From the desk of Forbes.com...

Disney Spoils Its Own Ride And Pays The Price

Disney's theme park design division is famous for its secrecy. So when it posted a full video of its newest attraction a month before it launched it seemed to be the dawn of a whole new world. It may not last for long.

www.forbes.com

I don't know whether to "like" for mentioning @wdwmagic and quoting posters or be sad for verifying our reception of the ride through.

 

[Chandra]

At the end what really matters is they tried.

…and failed miserably.

 

[EagleScout610]

Update- its done for the night.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I think the frustration and ire is because Disney was once held to a higher standard which is why we all became fans of the parks. But for the past decade or so, Disney has been consistently shoddy with cheap rethemes. So far it has been retheming an attraction with some objective issues like Maelstrom, Stormrider, Screamin, DCA's TOT (even though this was my favourite version of the ride), Snow White, etc. So people can argue that the storytelling isn't up to Disney quality, but people could also shrug and point out that the attraction it replaced needed some adjustments.

This is the first time they have messed with a beloved classic since Tiki Room, and Splash is far more beloved by guests. And while many were vocal about their worries considering Disney's history of lackluster rethemes, these were always dismissed by the hopeful crowd on here. And every time a new element was confirmed and seemed off, the critical crowd would point to these as evidence that we should be worried, but they were still waved away by those who cheerlead for Disney and told "wait until you ride it to form an opinion." The whole "we don't know the whole thing" excuse kept being used time and time again to squash all objective discussion of this project.

And now that we have the full attraction available...it turns out the criticisms were appropriate. And many of the folks who kept shouting down criticisms are now expressing their own dissatisfaction. I'm not a doom and gloomer, but it is annoying to have pointed out many of the issues years ago and been told my complaints and observations aren't valid only now that we are officially stuck with this, now we can all say the same thing.

There's nit-picking and there's wearing rose-coloured glasses. Maybe we need to start listening to the folks in-between.

I want to be clear here in that I don't think this attraction doesn't have things that are worth criticizing, just I don't think there's nothing worth criticizing about the parks as a whole as of late. There's plenty. Just because I greatly enjoy what I've seen of TBA doesn't mean that I think it's immune to criticism.

(That isn't aimed at you specifically, just a general statement as I've been accused all over lately of Disney shilling lmao)

My issue with this attraction, and this thread in particular, is the hostility that's come with the criticisms. It's rare someone who dislikes this attraction and what they've seen of it can speak on it without a condescending, holier than tho, I know better than you attitude and it's been such a huge turn off. I would love to engage in some respectful discourse about it and discuss different points of view because varying opinions are what makes these parks so great. There's something for everyone to love even if they dislike something else within the parks.

This ride has just inspired such vitriolic behavior that's gone so far beyond that kind of discourse. The 'I told you so' of it all, and even people still saying they like it now that we've seen the whole thing being talked to like they're idiots for feeling that way, or idiots for saying they didn't particularly love the attraction that came before it. That's what's been so upsetting.

Thankfully this forum has devolved into the genuine racist dogwhistling that exists on Twitter and Reddit about this that has nothing to do with the ride itself's content or look, just the mere basis for what it is and what it replaces. If it were that I'd have just left this forum as soon as I found it.

I just hope as time passes and we get further out from opening that the people who've spent the last year taking this horrifically condescending attitude and engaged with people who like it as if they're less than or unintelligent mellow out and can just ignore the attraction if they don't like it. It's really not fun to say that you're happy with something and then have half a dozen people quote you ask "how could you possibly be?" "why are you willing to let disney degrade?" etc

Again not aimed at you directly, you've (that I've seen anyway) not been rude to people who like it. Just wanted to explain why this has been such a disheartening experience.

 

[JoeCamel]

Update- its done for the night.

Sink a log?

 

[Prince-1]

How am I trolling?

You aren’t trolling. You just didn’t have the same opinion as him.

 

[Trauma]

How am I trolling?

I apologize it’s been an upsetting day.

Your comments came off as if you somehow speak for the general public and you know what they are going to love.

I would argue that the Disney video is making its way out into the general public and is being received just about as well as the StarCruiser debacle.

This weird argument that because the ride has long rides it means it’s a success, isn’t sitting well with me.

It’s a Mountain ride in the Magic Kingdom. It would probably have long lines if it had no theming at all. I don’t see how that is an indicator of ride quality.

Welcome to the forums and I hope in our future interactions I am able to conduct myself with better decorum.

Splash was a very special ride for me so it hurts to see people write off its loss as “Who cares it will still have lines.”