SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
I'm not a Tiana fan- But if I was, I'd be livid about this being the ride she got. Other than superficial "Here's Mama Odie!" "Here's Louis!" does this ride do anything to capture the heart of the film?
Those behind this attraction don’t seem to care for the film. Its basically a platform for them to concoct their own version of the characterI'm not a Tiana fan- But if I was, I'd be livid about this being the ride she got. Other than superficial "Here's Mama Odie!" "Here's Louis!" does this ride do anything to capture the heart of the film?
Haunted mansion, Jungle cruise, BTM, Pirates, IASW, peoplemover, space mt. MK isn’t short on popular classic rides.It is absolutely a worse scenario for MK than it is DL. Even if this ride stinks in DL, it doesn't really matter.
At MK, it was the equivalent to DL's PotC. And there are way less attractions in general. Absolute disaster.
One of my top 3 Disney animated movies. I saw it in theaters when it released and ever since I had wanted them to return to 2-D animation every so often.You know what’s so sad too the princess and the frog is actually a really good movie… I think too many hands were in the pot here and nothing better came from this if you’re going to change a loved ride why wouldn’t you make it better..????
Who are you talking about?Does anyone think Disney was expecting this much backlash? I think we got used to seeing Imagineering prove audiences wrong.
Wonder if they got cocky after their triumph of recent successes where they proved that all change is not necessarily a bad thing. One example I can think of is Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout.
Again, there's always going to be negative reviews to a change at first. But this is one of those special exceptions where the general reaction has been quite negative. Even content creators who have defended Disney this far for the change have been outweighing their pros with many cons.
There's no storyline. No buildup. Dead areas. Visually pretty, but you can only hide that for so long. And the opposite of that is what differs Imagineering and the Disney Parks from a Universal or Six Flags. That's why we hold them to such a high standard. Usually, each ride and attraction is handled with such artistry and care. To think Universal might top Disney next year with their new theme park finally might wake up WDI. I was never hoping to say that, but here we are. I hope they blow it out of the water because that's what is going to give us wonderful experiences from both sides in the future. It's why Cars Land was so amazing. I don't think they would have put in as much effort into Cars Land if it wasn't for Wizarding World.
Splash Mountain wasn't visually kept as it were "up to date" according to many people. But the general thrill, buildup to the drop, and catchy songs held the ride to be certified as a forever classic. Many people, like myself, put this on the Mount Rushmore of Disney attractions, one that would truly stick around from now until the end of time.
I wish that Disney had updated Splash Mountain instead of retheming it entirely. It would have shut up the naysayers who had complained about the off-putting lighting and poor state of animatronics, that Splash Mountain was a ride truly worth keeping forever. If only. Man if only. To think that now the majority of people are starting to appreciate now what was so hard for them to appreciate before is surreal.
Moral of the story is, be careful what you wish for. Especially in this era of Imagineering.
I have nightmares that the HM stretching room is next on the “modern retheme” chopping block… but I refuse to think about it. It’s all just a bad dream. Let the one slightly scary ride in MK keep being scary.In another dimension somewhere. Br’er Rabbit is bidding on a Redhead at an auction.
Man. Wish I was there.
It wasn’t an excuse, and it wasn’t being “used” for the reason you claim.The whole "we don't know the whole thing" excuse kept being used time and time again to squash all objective discussion of this project.
I have to take a trip every two years. It’s how DVC works.
I am trying to rent my points out instead, but nobody wants them.
Can I interest you in a stay at the Boardwalk?
Let's see... which America Sings animatronics were also featured in the Magic Kingdom version?I don't think Disneyland will retain all of the old AS animatronics either. Though if what Splash Archive said on Twitter is correct, there should be a few that return. How many that entails, I don't know.
It'll probably be like the Little Mermaid remake - they'll just brush off everyone who hates it as racist.Given the way corporate reacted to that, I have no doubt they wouldn’t hesitate to start attacking the fans.
None of the new characters actually did anything, but Lari takes the cake regarding complete non-entities. Did he even appear in any of the previous scenes? I know he's in the finale.- Lari adds nothing to the post-splashdown tunnel. He may be mentioned in another line of dialouge but I didn't hear it in the POV I watched.
Yeah, I'm like that too. Most of the new stuff isn't doing much for me.I have gotten to the point where I know what I want to experience in each park and it’s not the new stuff. It’s MuppetVision, ToT, Fantasmic, Spaceship Earth, Figment, GOTG (exception), LWTL, Tiki Room, things like that.
I still think "randomizing" it a la Star Tours would be neat. You could even include a Princess and the Frog song or two in there.Philarmagic is highly underrated another one of my favorites. Could use some more scenes though.
You wouldn't happen to know what the original plan for the Laughin' Place scene was, do you? I'm curious.Well, I did hear that at one point, the Laughin’ Place replacement was even more boring and an exec suggested something “more exciting”. This could explain the shrinking storyline coming out of no where and ending just as abruptly as it starts: it was shoehorned in.
I mean, I do like the design of this bullfrog (he reminds me of Binya Binya from Gullah Gullah Island) but he doesn't actually DO anything.What fans call "more exciting: Dr. Facillier causing mayhem and pulling us up the big lift.
What Disney calls "more exciting": Mondo
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Are the black bears even still black bears? They looked brown in the ride to me.or that Claude the Louisiana Black Bear "is frequently funny without intending to be" if none of that is reflected in the ride?
Probably scrapped the parts, just like the other Splash Mountain animatronics.Do we know what happened to the gophers in the ceiling?
I'd go on an attraction where the entire plot is Brer Rabbit tormenting Bob Iger.Or.. ‘Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: With Br’er Rabbit’
So the fix for the redo is this (ala Journey Into Your Imagination ‘99 to With Figment ‘02).. Tiana’s planning her critter band party just like the first redo but she discovers a new critter has wanted to join in on the fun, Br’er Rabbit and it happens he’s looking for his laughing place.. so what better way to get a laugh than to hijack/screw up/prank Tiana’s party plans every step of the way, Tiana & Louis getting annoyed with him ala Dr. Channing until the very end when Tiana & Louis finally learn from Br’er Rabbit “Everybody’s Got a Laughin’ Place, it’s just people need to take the time to look for it.” and it ends with her, Louis, her friends, and Br’er Rabbit and some reused AAs from the previous ride laughing altogether at the end/finale
Just a way to rub salt on the wound like With Figment did on the fan complaints surrounding the redo, under the masquerade of a “return/comeback”.
We were robbed.There actually were plans for something like this back in the early aughts called Splash Mountain Boys that explained the whole backstory behind Splash Mountain and why Chick-A-Pin Hill got flooded.
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THIS! And I hope whoever thought of that petition who's now seeing the end result is now regretting that decision.
I don't know if whoever started the petition was interviewed, but Frederick Chambers was.I think they have, wish they were interviewed on the media though.
Correct, fire alarms were going off at the ride. My preview is scheduled for tomorrow but cast was apparently not optimistic about reopening tomorrow.My friend is at Magic Kingdom tonight and they just called that it's down for the rest of the night due to technical difficulties.
It's been mentioned on one of those clickbait sites as "problematic."I have nightmares that the HM stretching room is next on the “modern retheme” chopping block… but I refuse to think about it. It’s all just a bad dream. Let the one slightly scary ride in MK keep being scary.
Correct, fire alarms were going off at the ride. My preview is scheduled for tomorrow but cast was apparently not optimistic about reopening tomorrow.
While I could never know anyone's true motives, it did feel like a majority of the "we can't judge the attraction until we see it all" was aimed at observations that contained negative criticism rather than positive.It wasn’t an excuse, and it wasn’t being “used” for the reason you claim.
Also, no discussion of this project has been or can be objective. We’re dealing with human reactions and emotions.
How am I trolling?I’m not going to engage with your trolling. I don’t know who you are but find someone else.
Thank you! I've enjoyed other parts of the forum, thankfully, this has just been a huge red flag and Im glad to hear its not all like thatIt’s pretty exceptional.
Thank you for letting me know, I didn't even know there was an ignore feature. That would've saved me a great deal of time through all this lmaoUnfortunately there are quite a handful of regular posters who regularly bash, dismiss and just straight up bring down the conversation every chance they get. I would suggest a heavy use of the ignore feature.
I don't know whether to "like" for mentioning @wdwmagic and quoting posters or be sad for verifying our reception of the ride through.From the desk of Forbes.com...
Disney Spoils Its Own Ride And Pays The Price
Disney's theme park design division is famous for its secrecy. So when it posted a full video of its newest attraction a month before it launched it seemed to be the dawn of a whole new world. It may not last for long.www.forbes.com
…and failed miserably.At the end what really matters is they tried.
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