JD80
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The world is big and has a varied amount of opinions. You should not be angry and rude to those that have different ones.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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The world is big and has a varied amount of opinions. You should not be angry and rude to those that have different ones.
seabreezept813
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While I don’t disagree with holding Disney to a standard I do think that part of what is missing in these discussions is seeing through a child’s eyes. I miss the Great Movie Ride terribly but I love Mickey because it’s fun but mostly because of the magic my kids have experienced riding it.
Incomudro
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It doesn't matter if we try to "hold the company accountable."
The riders will be there.
That's all that matters to the company.
Professortango1
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I think the frustration and ire is because Disney was once held to a higher standard which is why we all became fans of the parks. But for the past decade or so, Disney has been consistently shoddy with cheap rethemes. So far it has been retheming an attraction with some objective issues like Maelstrom, Stormrider, Screamin, DCA's TOT (even though this was my favourite version of the ride), Snow White, etc. So people can argue that the storytelling isn't up to Disney quality, but people could also shrug and point out that the attraction it replaced needed some adjustments.
This is the first time they have messed with a beloved classic since Tiki Room, and Splash is far more beloved by guests. And while many were vocal about their worries considering Disney's history of lackluster rethemes, these were always dismissed by the hopeful crowd on here. And every time a new element was confirmed and seemed off, the critical crowd would point to these as evidence that we should be worried, but they were still waved away by those who cheerlead for Disney and told "wait until you ride it to form an opinion." The whole "we don't know the whole thing" excuse kept being used time and time again to squash all objective discussion of this project.
And now that we have the full attraction available...it turns out the criticisms were appropriate. And many of the folks who kept shouting down criticisms are now expressing their own dissatisfaction. I'm not a doom and gloomer, but it is annoying to have pointed out many of the issues years ago and been told my complaints and observations aren't valid only now that we are officially stuck with this, now we can all say the same thing.
There's nit-picking and there's wearing rose-coloured glasses. Maybe we need to start listening to the folks in-between.
seabreezept813
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Ya the 6 year old asked if we could ride Splash after we ride Tiana’s. In the past she’s been scared of hills.. like the tiny drop on Pirates and Frozen so her openness to riding is new. But maybe she’s just getting braver.
Did someone hand out talking points to the Sheild?
They all show up at once with:
The ride will have long lines so that’s all that matters.
Thru the eyes of a 4 year old the ride is great!
Well those seems like some great reasons to destroy Splash.
It all makes sense to me now.
They all show up at once with:
The ride will have long lines so that’s all that matters.
Thru the eyes of a 4 year old the ride is great!
Well those seems like some great reasons to destroy Splash.
It all makes sense to me now.
SuddenStorm
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Smart kid you got there.
davis_unoxx
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It’s a shame, Disney took the best E Ticket for overall experience at all of Disney World, at least the Magic Kingdom. And turned it into the the worst E ticket in the whole park.
They pretty much turned a Porsche 9/11 into a Prius and marketed it as better, what a shame.
They pretty much turned a Porsche 9/11 into a Prius and marketed it as better, what a shame.
It doesn’t matter.
People are going to wait for it anyways.
I also showed the ride to my Daughter and she rolled her eyes and walked away. I think that means she can’t wait to ride it.
Did I mention it’s going to have long lines and that means it’s amazing?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
As I told my friend, the primary goal was to rid us of splash and the replacement attraction quality was secondary. Seems they gave us a “meh” according to the cross sections of options out there.
davis_unoxx
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Hahaha I love it.
It’s interesting, the company D store in Anaheim for cast is full of Tiana merch this year and last, meaning her stuff doesn’t sell well in the park…
I honestly believe splash merch will sell better than Tiana ride ever will, no matter how hard they push this ride to act like it’s a success.
CampbellzSoup
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You also took the music out of Disney Worlds soundtrack too an iconic peace of park history for what exactly again???
Unlikely since they won’t make Splash merch anymore.
davis_unoxx
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I meant in the past tense my mistake, saying this ride will never be as popular
Animaniac93-98
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While in theory they could spend some extra money to plus the ride, and it would not be unprecedented, I'm not expecting them to do so anytime soon.
After 5 years of development and construction, they're more likely to dismiss the criticisms and move on to something else.
(would love to be proven wrong)
After 5 years of development and construction, they're more likely to dismiss the criticisms and move on to something else.
(would love to be proven wrong)
Smiley/OCD
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The problem is they’re making plenty of lemonade…they just keep forgetting to add the sugar…I think this time they added salt…
TheRealSkull
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Does anyone think Disney was expecting this much backlash? I think we got used to seeing Imagineering prove audiences wrong.
Wonder if they got cocky after their triumph of recent successes where they proved that all change is not necessarily a bad thing. One example I can think of is Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout.
Again, there's always going to be negative reviews to a change at first. But this is one of those special exceptions where the general reaction has been quite negative. Even content creators who have defended Disney this far for the change have been outweighing their pros with many cons.
There's no storyline. No buildup. Dead areas. Visually pretty, but you can only hide that for so long. And the opposite of that is what differs Imagineering and the Disney Parks from a Universal or Six Flags. That's why we hold them to such a high standard. Usually, each ride and attraction is handled with such artistry and care. To think Universal might top Disney next year with their new theme park finally might wake up WDI. I was never hoping to say that, but here we are. I hope they blow it out of the water because that's what is going to give us wonderful experiences from both sides in the future. It's why Cars Land was so amazing. I don't think they would have put in as much effort into Cars Land if it wasn't for Wizarding World.
Splash Mountain wasn't visually kept as it were "up to date" according to many people. But the general thrill, buildup to the drop, and catchy songs held the ride to be certified as a forever classic. Many people, like myself, put this on the Mount Rushmore of Disney attractions, one that would truly stick around from now until the end of time.
I wish that Disney had updated Splash Mountain instead of retheming it entirely. It would have shut up the naysayers who had complained about the off-putting lighting and poor state of animatronics, that Splash Mountain was a ride truly worth keeping forever. If only. Man if only. To think that now the majority of people are starting to appreciate now what was so hard for them to appreciate before is surreal.
Moral of the story is, be careful what you wish for. Especially in this era of Imagineering.
Wonder if they got cocky after their triumph of recent successes where they proved that all change is not necessarily a bad thing. One example I can think of is Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout.
Again, there's always going to be negative reviews to a change at first. But this is one of those special exceptions where the general reaction has been quite negative. Even content creators who have defended Disney this far for the change have been outweighing their pros with many cons.
There's no storyline. No buildup. Dead areas. Visually pretty, but you can only hide that for so long. And the opposite of that is what differs Imagineering and the Disney Parks from a Universal or Six Flags. That's why we hold them to such a high standard. Usually, each ride and attraction is handled with such artistry and care. To think Universal might top Disney next year with their new theme park finally might wake up WDI. I was never hoping to say that, but here we are. I hope they blow it out of the water because that's what is going to give us wonderful experiences from both sides in the future. It's why Cars Land was so amazing. I don't think they would have put in as much effort into Cars Land if it wasn't for Wizarding World.
Splash Mountain wasn't visually kept as it were "up to date" according to many people. But the general thrill, buildup to the drop, and catchy songs held the ride to be certified as a forever classic. Many people, like myself, put this on the Mount Rushmore of Disney attractions, one that would truly stick around from now until the end of time.
I wish that Disney had updated Splash Mountain instead of retheming it entirely. It would have shut up the naysayers who had complained about the off-putting lighting and poor state of animatronics, that Splash Mountain was a ride truly worth keeping forever. If only. Man if only. To think that now the majority of people are starting to appreciate now what was so hard for them to appreciate before is surreal.
Moral of the story is, be careful what you wish for. Especially in this era of Imagineering.
davis_unoxx
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Yes exactly!
I would get downvoted on reddit when I said the Tokyo version animatronics looked fantastic, and opened a day apart from WDW version of ride. I said this in response to people saying the ride was dated LOL.
CampbellzSoup
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You know what’s so sad too the princess and the frog is actually a really good movie… I think too many hands were in the pot here and nothing better came from this if you’re going to change a loved ride why wouldn’t you make it better..????