News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[MerlinTheGoat]

It only it weren't for all those other sources that said otherwise...

I'm the only one who said that, and it's an older claim that may or may not be true. They've gotten quite a lot of other stuff about the ride right, but not 100%. Specifically Tony Baxter's involvement turned out to be incorrect.

Two other people here (cupofchai and Splash Archive) have said they're scrapping the vast majority of the old figures. And both of them ended up being correct about scrapping the riverboat and implementing a new show scene with the facade of Tiana's Palace. Archive had official renders to back that claim up. Archive says only about 7-8 of the old America Sings AA's are being reused. And that the finale would be a lot emptier than Splash. I believe this information on the reused figures is also specific to DL, so i'm not sure all of it applies to WDW.

The only group of reused figures that are likely fairly certainly confirmed at this point are the tiny hanging possums. Since they appeared in one of the pieces of concept art of the ride. Not technically animatronics though, they're more animated props.

What sources? The ones that said the boat was being reused?

That was also me, though I did state that my riverboat comment wasn't based on information from a source. I just assumed that they would reuse the boat because it didn't make any sense to me to get rid of it in the context of the IP being used (which would have justified the inclusion of a riverboat far better even than Splash did). But it only my own assumption, nothing I was told. I did make that clear when I posted it.

The America Sings figures on the other hand I WAS told would be reused back in 2022. So if i'm wrong about that, it's because of a misinformed source. Like I said, Splash Archive claimed that maybe 7-8 would be reused at DL. But I was under the impression it would be a much larger number. And again, also not sure if Archive's number applies to WDW.

Many sources have refuted otherwise.

To be fair, I think i'm the only person who has claimed that such a large quantity would be reused. If there's another source who also did so, i'd like to hear it.

 

[EagleScout610]

The only group of reused figures that are likely fairly certainly confirmed at this point are the tiny hanging possums. Since they appeared in one of the pieces of concept art of the ride. Not technically animatronics though, they're more animated props.

It's also heavily speculated the giggling Br'er Rabbit will be reused as the rabbit playing the washboard, as well as the bullfrogs from Splash. Of course these would most likely be the mechanics/internals reused, as the PATF Frogs in the concept art are much different than the Marc Davis/Baxter frogs, and obviously they wouldn't plop Br'er Rabbit laughin in the middle of Bayou.

 

[mickEblu]

It's also heavily implied the giggling Br'er Rabbit will be reused as the rabbit playing the washboard, as well as the bullfrogs from Splash. Of course these would most likely be the mechanics/internals reused, as the PATF Frogs in the concept art are much different than the Marc Davis/Baxter frogs.
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Kind of a side note but I’d imagine they’re going to have to have all the critter AA’s staged up very close in the foreground like the above concept art as (aside from Louis) they are not going to be larger anthropomorphic animals but will be closer to real world scale and as they are shown in the movie. I wonder if that will create a loss of depth if all the animals are right on the flumes edge.

That was another advantage of Splash being human free. You could kind of Runaway with the fantasy aspect.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

It's also heavily implied the giggling Br'er Rabbit will be reused as the rabbit playing the washboard, as well as the bullfrogs from Splash. Of course these would most likely be the mechanics/internals reused, as the PATF Frogs in the concept art are much different than the Marc Davis/Baxter frogs, and obviously they wouldn't plop Br'er Rabbit laughin in the middle of Bayou.
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I'm not sure there's anything that "heavily implies" that.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Kind of a side note but I’d imagine they’re going to have to have all the critter AA’s staged up very close in the foreground like the above concept art as (aside from Louis) they are not going to be larger anthropomorphic animals but will be closer to real world scale and as they are shown in the movie. I wonder if that will create a loss of depth if all the animals are right on the flumes edge.

That was another advantage of Splash being human free. You could kind of Runaway with the fantasy aspect.

I think there will probably be a mixture of small and large critter AA's. This isn't information given to me, but it's consistent with artwork they've shown of the ride. One of of which includes a number of shadowy silhouettes of larger animals in the background. Particularly what appears to be bears and big cats (bobcats do live in Louisiana). And possibly dogs or wolves. These were also present in the "inspirational artwork" created by Sharika Mahdi.

 

[EagleScout610]

I'm not sure there's anything that "heavily implies" that.

I think the word I was looking for was 'speculated', not implied. My bad.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I'm not sure there's anything that "heavily implies" that.

I think the word I was looking for was 'speculated', not implied. My bad.

The source of this claim was again Splash Archive. He said there was an unconfirmed possibility that the upper half portion of the giggling Brer Rabbit figure might be salvaged and reused for the rabbit in the art.

News - Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

The track layout isn't charging. But the big drop will be less psychologically intense due to the scenery alterations during the final lift and removal of the briar patch.

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The post also claims that the reused figures will include a few frogs, the storks (which I assume may only apply to Disneyland as WDW never got copies of the AS storks) and the tiny hanging possums (which was already confirmed in a prior piece of art).

 

[mickEblu]

I think there will probably be a mixture of small and large critter AA's. This isn't information given to me, but it's consistent with artwork they've shown of the ride. One of of which includes a number of shadowy silhouettes of larger animals in the background. Particularly what appears to be bears and big cats (bobcats do live in Louisiana). And possibly dogs or wolves. These were also present in the "inspirational artwork" created by Sharika Mahdi.

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Yeah I remember being pleased to see this concept art when it was released but I have since come to the conclusion that the artist was taking artistic liberty or that they have gone in another direction. Unless maybe part of the story is that Mama Odie does a little magic and transforms the animals for the big Mardi Gras finale/ party in the city but I doubt it. The scene with 6 animals playing instruments is an actual scene where the anthropomorphic animals are just concept art and it really wouldn’t make much sense to have them both on the same ride.

At this point I don’t care if they re anthropomorphic or not. It’s the least of my worries.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Yeah I remember being pleased to see this concept art when it was released but I have since come to the conclusion that the artist was taking artistic liberty or that they have gone in another direction. Unless maybe part of the story is that Mama Odie does a little magic and transforms the animals for the big Mardi Gras finale but I doubt it. The scene with 6 animals playing instruments is an actual scene where the anthropomorphic animals are just concept art and it really wouldn’t make much sense to have them both on the same ride.

The art from Sharika Mahdi I also might have just disregarded on its own if it was all we had. But Disney specifically said they were using her art as an inspiration. And that seems to have been the case based on the ride art. The only critters we've seen front and center with clear detail are those small ones. But they're still standing upright similar to the smaller critters in Splash. And again, that other official piece of art of the ride shows larger critters that are visible enough to tell that they're in an upright position.

I don't think they went in another direction btw. Not only was this ride art shown off fairly recently before the newer critter band one, but the otter character in particular appeared in both pieces.

The Tiana's Palace facade for the finale is another thing Mahdi's art predicted. Though the design differs somewhat from the renders Splash Archive got ahold of. I can't link it since it was shared without permission and he asked people not to repost. But what they're building is more of a traditional French Quarter looking building with a second level, some nice looking curved staircases on the sides and rails along the landings (and another structure on the left side where the swamp boys were located that appears to be a gazebo or something).

I think they're probably going with the idea of there being other animals out there who want to follow in Louis' footsteps. Louis being the only true animal we see in the movie who taught himself to walk upright and play an instrument, wishing to be human. Assuming that's what is happening, that can justify any potentially anthropomorphic designs. Or perhaps it is indeed Mama Odie working a little magic into things.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Hey, it's those same frogs from the outdoor section!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Hey, it's those same frogs from the outdoor section!
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Oh, sure, "all frogs look alike" to you! That's amphibism!!

 

[PK2]

Hey, it's those same frogs from the outdoor section!
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Wouldn't surprise me if they were recurring as a little "side-story" like the bird or Pluto and the picnic basket in Runaway Railway. I think we can expect a few of those side-plot Easter eggs.

 

[Clowd Nyne]

Wouldn't surprise me if they were recurring as a little "side-story" like the bird or Pluto and the picnic basket in Runaway Railway. I think we can expect a few of those side-plot Easter eggs.

I like it when they do those. It makes me want to ride it again to see what I missed.

 

[Brer Panther]

Hey, it's those same frogs from the outdoor section!
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I'm remindd of how the Little Mermaid ride made duplicates of a few characters in the "Under the Sea" scene and put 'em in the finale for some reason.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Wouldn't surprise me if they were recurring as a little "side-story" like the bird or Pluto and the picnic basket in Runaway Railway. I think we can expect a few of those side-plot Easter eggs.

Back before things supposedly changed, I fully expected a B-plot side story to be Louis finding his trumpet or rather us counting how many times the instrument shows up throughout the attraction. Not ruling it out.

I like it when they do those. It makes me want to ride it again to see what I missed.

As long as it doesn't become the norm. I think it'd be a fun addition.

 

[Surferboy567]

With the bottles installed, I’m really starting to believe that rumor that we will know when this opens on Mardi Gras. I’m also starting to believe it’s gonna be sooner then we all think.

 

[bmr1591]

With the bottles installed, I’m really starting to believe that rumor that we will know when this opens on Mardi Gras. I’m also starting to believe it’s gonna be sooner then we all think.

Combine Mardi Gras and Black History Month and it only makes sense.

 

[tanc]

I have two tickets to use at anytime in WDW, and I'd like to see this ride. Thing is, I have a feeling the VQ for this will be as hard as ROTR to get. I hope it opens at a reasonable time and that they're not rushing to get things done.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I have two tickets to use at anytime in WDW, and I'd like to see this ride. Thing is, I have a feeling the VQ for this will be as hard as ROTR to get. I hope it opens at a reasonable time and that they're not rushing to get things done.

I can’t imagine it will be anywhere near as hard to get for a variety of reasons:

1) The ride system has proven to be efficient and reliable over the past 30 years. It’s also a long ride, and as a result, a high capacity ride.

2) The demand for a rethemed ride will always be lower than a new ride. Especially when comparing IPs (PatF vs Star Wars).

3) It’s opening in a park with better capacity and more in demand attractions compared to Hollywood Studios.

The only way that the VQ becomes hard to get is if they artificially “increase” demand by offering far fewer boarding groups than the ride can actually support. I don’t think they are silly enough to do that.

 

[Surferboy567]

2) The demand for a rethemed ride will always be lower than a new ride. Especially when comparing IPs (PatF vs Star Wars).

The only way that the VQ becomes hard to get is if they artificially “increase” demand by offering far fewer boarding groups than the ride can actually support. I don’t think they are silly enough to do that.

To play devils advocate, in reference to #2. If it’s a good ride (jury is still out on that) people will come also rethemed rides based on liked properties get consistent lines. See Malestrom to frozen I’m in no way saying PATF is comparable to the IP’s you listed just an observation.