News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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James Alucobond

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JoeCamel said:
Seems they havent been able to produce an AA that is representative of the source real life or animated since Mermaid? I think it started there but might have been earlier.
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The Frozen and Tangled animatronics are pretty bang-on because they were already realized in 3D. The Golden Age and Renaissance characters have always been harder to translate because some of them are stylized in a way that doesn't translate well. Look at how off the characters in Wreck-It Ralph are that aren't Anna, Elsa, Rapunzel, Moana, or Merida. Also consider why they've waffled between giving certain characters real hair in some instances and solid molded lumps in others. It's not easy to do, particularly because you can't cel-shade things in real life.

By contrast, I actually think the Golden Age characters tend to be easiest to cast for M&Gs because they were often more faithfully rotoscoped from real-life models, including facial proportions. Meanwhile, big-headed round-eyed characters will require some compromise.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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James Alucobond said:
The Frozen and Tangled animatronics are pretty bang-on because they were already realized in 3D. The Golden Age and Renaissance characters have always been harder to translate because some of them are stylized in a way that doesn't translate well. Look at how off the characters in Wreck-It Ralph are that aren't Anna, Elsa, Rapunzel, Moana, or Merida. Also consider why they've waffled between giving certain characters real hair in some instances and solid molded lumps in others. It's not easy to do, particularly because you can't cel-shade things in real life.

By contrast, I actually think the Golden Age characters tend to be easiest to cast for M&Gs because they were often more faithfully rotoscoped from real-life models, including facial proportions. Meanwhile, big-headed round-eyed characters will require some compromise.
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I thought the projected faces were one of the prime examples of the loss of talent, just a lazy way to deliver a wow moment like so many of the rides they have built. One trick pony if you will but really lacking on the 1000th viewing unlike some of the classics. They will never make a 100% realistic AA despite what Bob is teasing but they have interpreted the source material successfully in the past to look good every time even if not as complex. Often less is more but when your reputation is forming you tend to pick the easy way if you can. The people that had years of perspective to know what is pleasing to the eye and sensibilities are sadly missing today
 
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James Alucobond

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The projected faces don't make them off-model, though. I also think they were more an experiment with new technology than a result of laziness. They've obviously moved away from them now because they think the effect is ultimately less satisfying and the intended maintenance reduction not as substantial as they had hoped.
 
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easyrowrdw

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Epcot81Fan said:
For a ride that was deemed to be so “important”, it is honestly shocking how poorly they treated Tiana - both in her appearance (apparently we cannot show or discuss the comparison to the animated film character) and role in the attraction.
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Yeah. It is a little strange that they couldn't think of anything more for her to do than look for critter musicians. I honestly don't give that much thought to the stories of rides. But if they're trying to move the character beyond the movie, then I think they're should've been something more going on.
 
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Stupido

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It's truly wild hearing the claim that Tiana looks so off model that children won't be able to recognize her. First off, she doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Secondly, that's really such a discredit to Anika Noni Rose whose stellar voice work really brings Tiana to life. I know I might be biased, but I think Anika is truly in the golden trio of princess voice actors with Paige O'Hara and Jodi Benson. To be frank, Tiana wouldn't be Tiana without Anika Noni Rose's inspired acting.

I've been lucky enough to ride Tiana's Bayou Adventure (with all the animatronics working none the less), and found it ridiculous that anyone would claim it was difficult to understand whose ride it is. If you have any clue who Tiana is, you'll know exactly who you're adventuring with.
 
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James Alucobond

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easyrowrdw said:
Yeah. It is a little strange that they couldn't think of anything more for her to do than look for critter musicians. I honestly don't give that much thought to the stories of rides. But if they're trying to move the character beyond the movie, then I think they're should've been something more going on.
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I think the narrative and design choices make some amount of sense if you consider that they were trying to fit the attraction into three distinct lands across three parks. It needed to fit within Frontierland at Magic Kingdom, hence the rustic bayou facade and self-made business story element; it needed to fit within New Orleans Square at Disneyland, hence the jazz music and themed queue elements; and it needed to fit within Critter Country in Tokyo, hence the uniquely designed cute critters for merchandising.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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James Alucobond said:
I think the narrative and design choices make some amount of sense if you consider that they were trying to fit the attraction into three distinct lands across three parks. It needed to fit within Frontierland at Magic Kingdom, hence the rustic bayou facade and self-made business story element; it needed to fit within New Orleans Square at Disneyland, hence the jazz music and themed queue elements; and it needed to fit within Critter Country in Tokyo, hence the uniquely designed cute critters for merchandising.
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And as a result, fits in none of them
 
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tanc

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When I go to ride this, I hope I board at a good time and don’t get stuck on it or that everything is terribly out of sync.
 
seabreezept813

seabreezept813

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Stupido said:
It's truly wild hearing the claim that Tiana looks so off model that children won't be able to recognize her. First off, she doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Secondly, that's really such a discredit to Anika Noni Rose whose stellar voice work really brings Tiana to life. I know I might be biased, but I think Anika is truly in the golden trio of princess voice actors with Paige O'Hara and Jodi Benson. To be frank, Tiana wouldn't be Tiana without Anika Noni Rose's inspired acting.

I've been lucky enough to ride Tiana's Bayou Adventure (with all the animatronics working none the less), and found it ridiculous that anyone would claim it was difficult to understand whose ride it is. If you have any clue who Tiana is, you'll know exactly who you're adventuring with.
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Also it’s the character but in pants. My 3 year old knows it’s Tiana. I totally get the ride not working right criticisms but the she’s unrecognizable claims are bizarre.
 
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easyrowrdw

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James Alucobond said:
I think the narrative and design choices make some amount of sense if you consider that they were trying to fit the attraction into three distinct lands across three parks. It needed to fit within Frontierland at Magic Kingdom, hence the rustic bayou facade and self-made business story element; it needed to fit within New Orleans Square at Disneyland, hence the jazz music and themed queue elements; and it needed to fit within Critter Country in Tokyo, hence the uniquely designed cute critters for merchandising.
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Interesting. I hadn’t thought of those things before.
 

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