Goofywilliam
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Fast passes shouldn't be an option at all
I truly believe lines would move considerably faster without fast passes.
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I truly believe lines would move considerably faster without fast passes.
lazyboy97o
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You are not alone in that opinion.Fast passes shouldn't be an option at all
maxairmike
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There are even some numbers that suggest that, but of course none of us here have the ability to post them, even if we have seen them.
Californian Elitist
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That would be me. I'm hoping to take my first trip to WDW next year and I feel sorry for myself when it comes to this system.
Goofywilliam
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A first timer! You will love it. Hopefully all the kinks in the system will be fixed by then and you will be well informed on this system, especially if you keep up with this site.
Californian Elitist
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My problem is choosing which rides to do.
WDWFan_Boston
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That's true. But there are many who refuse to acknowledge that this system will turn out to be very good for some people (and maybe more people than you think). Like you said, everyone tours the parks differently. I think MM+ will work great for hyper-planners and those who don't care about FP at all. The rest...we'll see.
I'm looking forward to going in two weeks and seeing what camp I fall into.
ParentsOf4
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My problem with FastPass+ is finding 3 attractions worth FastPassing.
Attraction tiering at DHS and Epcot absolutely blows.
Geeze, 3 of WDW's 4 theme parks really need some more attractions.
stevehousse
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That's exactly how the legacy FP worked! LOL it was around for what, 15 years or so, and they still had guests not knowing what is was or that it was even free! Nothing changes with the new system besides being limited to 3. Yes if u knew how to work the FP system to your advantage, you could easily get 5-6 a day, but honestly, besides people on this forum, how many really even knew how to get that many?
hpyhnt 1000
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My problem with FastPass+ is finding 3 attractions worth FastPassing.
Attraction tiering at DHS and Epcot absolutely blows.
Geeze, 3 of WDW's 4 theme parks really need some more attractions.
Yep. New attractions should have come first, which would have led to increased attendance. Then MM+/FP+/NextGen could have been implemented to grab more $$$ from guests to increase the bottom line for years to come. And major expansions at all four WDW parks (NFE, rejuvenated Future World, Star Wars/Carsland, and Avatar) would have been a definite "Potter Swatter." It was a winning scenario in every way.
Alas, the powers that be had other notions...
BTW, thanks for the updates, @WDW1974. Always makes for entertaining, if somewhat sobering, reading.
FrankLapidus
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My problem with FastPass+ is finding 3 attractions worth FastPassing.
Attraction tiering at DHS and Epcot absolutely blows.
Geeze, 3 of WDW's 4 theme parks really need some more attractions.
I thought the same when I went to Epcot last year, after Soarin' and Test Track there isn't really anything else there that needs a FP+ reservation. You feel sort of stupid turning up to the FP line on Living with the Land or Maelstrom and bypassing a five minute stand-by line.
Figments Friend
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Raven, if you can ONLY choose three FP+ attractions each day, visiting one Park per day, here are my suggestions from a long time WDW vet.
I am taking into consideration you are a DL vet, and these particular experiences are all FP+ options worth your short time.
There are of course many non-FP+ options that are absolute must-dos, but i will stick with the FP+ options since that is of most concern at the moment.
Absolute must-rides/experiences with FP+ option -
Magic Kingdom -
Splash Mountain ( Stunningly better then the charming original at DL )
BIg Thunder Mtn. Railroad -OR-The Haunted Mansion ( different layout(s) from DL )
Space Mountain ( if interested in the *original* ride experience only, DLs is superior )
EPCOT -
Spaceship Earth - ( classic, mostly original dark ride in unique setting )
Test Track - ( recent refurb changed it into something worthwhile theme-wise )
Mission:Space - ( Green Team for a milder simulator experience... milder then *Star Tours*! )
Hollywood Studios -
Tower of Terror - ( superior version compared to DCAs )
The Great Movie Ride - (Huge dark ride/live interaction element showcase)
Rock n Rollercoaster - ( if you do coasters, worth experiencing )
Animal Kingdom -
Expedition Everest - ( beautifully themed queue, unique coaster experience )
Kilimanjaro Safaris - ( unique to AK, and a fun experience )
Festival of The Lion King - ( not 100% if this is a FP+ option...but a must-see regardless! )
Captain Chaos
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Except for when you go to Maelstrom and bypass a 45 minute standby line, which I see more times than not... I chose Maelstrom as one of my FP+ options, and glad I did... When my brother and I arrived at Maelstrom during the time frame of the FP, the standby line was 40 minutes... When we exited the ride, the standby was 45... Line out the door, literally...
FrankLapidus
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We tend to go at a time each year when its less busy so we don't see those types of crowds at rides like Maelstrom too often thankfully. The longest line I saw at Maelstrom last year was 20 minutes but we learned pretty quickly to avoid Epcot on weekends during Food & Wine so I mostly missed the chaos that descends upon World Showcase during that time. I've seen some ridiculous queues at Maelstrom when we have gone to WDW during peak times so I can't disagree with you.
The Empress Lilly
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Well at least Oswald is genuinely rooted in Disney folklore, since forever.
Otherwise I too don't understand the recent phenomenon of suddely propelling obscure characters into fan superstardom. Orange Bird, Oswald, Ron Schneider. These were all footnotes, mostly irrelevancies until their sudden recent fan stardom.
They do seem to attract a certain segment of fans. Newer fans with a limited scope of their Disney obsession. They focus it on minutiae, and on commercialised offerings, and on tangible characters. There also seems to be an element of overcompensation in it, an attempt to acquire fan authenticity by association with historic minutiae.
Captain Chaos
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Yep, I was there during Food and Wine, so I know that helped contribute to the long standby for Maelstrom... However, everything else (except Soarin and Test Track) were walk on... I couldn't understand the 45 minute line for Maelstrom.. Was the 3rd longest wait time in the park...
dennis-in-ct
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very good point and good insight. I would be surprised if something glorious was not planned for the 2020 olympics
Nemo14
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You can add Duffy Bear to that list too.
FrankLapidus
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Yep, I was there during Food and Wine, so I know that helped contribute to the long standby for Maelstrom... However, everything else (except Soarin and Test Track) were walk on... I couldn't understand the 45 minute line for Maelstrom.. Was the 3rd longest wait time in the park...
I'm glad I wasn't there that day then. Spaceship Earth had a couple of 30-40 minute waits when we were there but Epcot was generally quiet otherwise, with World Showcase opening later than the rest of the park we can usually get it done before the crowds begin to pick up as the afternoon goes on. FP+ comes in handy in that respect though, its good to have a reserved time for a ride like Maelstrom just in case there are some unexpectedly long lines.
lazyboy97o
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Just like the obsession with meta "details" that "prove" the Imagineers are also Disney fans.