The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[NearTheEars]

That is sooooooooooo not true.

Change to OS forces App to update some core functionality to continue to work --> app feature ceases to work until updated --> cannot update app without updating OS. Witness the day after a new OS version goes live and dozens of apps suddenly need updates - often not for any additional features, just to continue to work under the new OS.

It's quite common. I've had it happen - I don't update to the new OS right away, until I have to. I'm out of contract on an iPhone, and I won't be buying another one. This was my second, and will be my last - but that's a much broader discussion that doesn't go here. This is one of the larger factors, though.




You got me there. You know more about them than I do - did they give actual launch dates at that time, or was it nebulous "2015" like it is here?

Yeah I believe he meant if you leave your phone in its current state and don't update anything, functionality will remain the same.

Much like how apps still work on my ancient first generation iPod touch because I decided to stop updating its OS and Apps in order to keep it functioning at a level that it's hardware could still handle.

 

[marni1971]

while ignoring the pesky fact that UNI execs are concerned about this?)

If anything I'm glad they acknowledge sometime is wrong. I've got more faith in them fixing it if its needed than elsewhere.

Is the mansion main queue still a funnelling free for all after two years?

And it looks like now I should also add I have an iPhone and love it.

 

[WildcatDen]

You pictured me while you were......????

Strictly a hypothetical, my Photo friend. And for the record, I will not use your likeness without your permission. . .

 

[WildcatDen]

I should have an interactive __________ in my hands! ...

The more I read, the more I think we are ready for our own WDWMagic version of the Match Game. Of course, Chit Chat may be a better home for it.

 

[WildcatDen]

I need to fit into a bridesmaid's _______________ in a month; do you mind?

These practically write themselves?

 

[bhg469]

And it looks like now I should also add I have an iPhone and love it.

That's ok, some people love stitch's great escape too..

 

[cheezbat]

Sometimes hyperbole is warranted to illustrate the lunacy as play. Apple designs phones so you basically have to replace them every 18 months. I find that absurd.

I realized how ridiculous this was when at a WDW outlet store and saw it was selling iPhone covers for $3.99 (instead of the $30-35 it charges full price), but it was quickly explained to me that those are for the iPhone3 (you'd think this was tech from 1979 the way it was explained) and ''nobody has that phone now.''

They last far longer than that. I've had mine for three years and it still works as good as day 1. I think it's just like cars. Don't make them perfect, because we want people to have to get a new one down the road. That, and some of these Appleheads are so addicted to their tech that they need something new yearly to get their fix, and it doesn't matter how good or cheap the 'new' thing is.
(Sounds like some Pixiedusters too!)

 

[cheezbat]

Wonder how the UNI foamers will take this, but some of UNI's research has shown that people visiting DA feel it has too many shops and not enough attractions (how many minutes before the Twits who never read a word here will have this and be ROTFLTFAO while ignoring the pesky fact that UNI execs are concerned about this?)

I know I'm very much looking forward to the ice cream. Much more so than the shops (although I do think I should have an interactive wand in my hands! ... Tohmmmmy ... Tohmmmmy ... tell me you got that!?!!)

While I love Diagon Alley, I have to agree. Gringotts is good. The land is excellent, the ice cream so tasty, and the Leaky Cauldron fun. The place could use a few smaller rides/attractions to round it out.

 

[MichWolv]

They last far longer than that. I've had mine for three years and it still works as good as day 1. I think it's just like cars. Don't make them perfect, because we want people to have to get a new one down the road. That, and some of these Appleheads are so addicted to their tech that they need something new yearly to get their fix, and it doesn't matter how good or cheap the 'new' thing is.
(Sounds like some Pixiedusters too!)

In the case of phones, the vast majority want to upgrade them because of advancements that occur. It's not that the old ones don't work well anymore, but that the new ones simply do more things better. My old 3GS works fine, but I upgraded to a 5s because it is better, faster, stronger. And also because the stupid pricing by the carriers. My son uses the 3GS as an Ipod Touch and is quite happy with it.

 

[baymenxpac]

I don't think it's just to trap them on property. If so, they would have offered discounts on longer passes too. IMHO it's more about spreading crowds to parks not called Magic Kingdom. They aren't just saying "please stay on property" they are saying "please spend a full day at each park".

i believe that is semantics.

disney's real problem is they don't have fresh or enticing offerings at the other three theme parks to hold a guest's attention. i don't want to speak in broad generalities, but it stands to reason that if you're doing a theme park-oriented central florida vacation, the magic kingdom will be included. what guests do on the other days, which recently, has been visiting universal studios instead of epcot, DHS, and AK, is what i believe they are hoping to avoid with this ticket.

the average vacation to disney has to be in the 4 days-to-a-week range (@ParentsOf4, any data on that?). maybe you could argue the average DVC member is a little longer. but what you're essentially posing to the consumer is this: give us a guaranteed day (doesn't have to be a full day, but you're incentive for it to be with no park hopping ability) at each park, we'll give you a discount. i believe that internal hope is that if a DVC family, who is probably used to doing some days that do not involve the parks (pool day, miniature golf, DTD, etc.), will look at each other and go, "wanna go to universal?" they'll ultimately come to the conclusion : "nah, i've had enough theme parks for one trip." disney then gets the added bonus of spreading out the crowds and goosing attendance figures at the other parks.

again, that's my read on it. i don't think disney care as much about keeping you there a full day (though they'll take that, too) as much as they care about you hopping on I-4 for any period of time.

 

[wdisney9000]

In the case of phones, the vast majority want to upgrade them because of advancements that occur. It's not that the old ones don't work well anymore, but that the new ones simply do more things better. My old 3GS works fine, but I upgraded to a 5s because it is better, faster, stronger. And also because the stupid pricing by the carriers. My son uses the 3GS as an Ipod Touch and is quite happy with it.

I live in a house divided. Apple for wifey, droid for me. It think both are very good products but the way people go bonkers over new phones (for both sides) is hilarious. I could hand someone my galaxy s4 and tell them it was a galaxy 5 and they would probly not notice the difference. The difference is minimal. Like telling someone your Ferrari can go 5 mph faster than their Ferrari, even though neither person would never even come close to reaching that type of speed on the highway.

 

[Jose]

@WDW1974 do you have any idea about when the announcement for the frozen ride will be made?

 

[GoofGoof]

i believe that is semantics.

disney's real problem is they don't have fresh or enticing offerings at the other three theme parks to hold a guest's attention. i don't want to speak in broad generalities, but it stands to reason that if you're doing a theme park-oriented central florida vacation, the magic kingdom will be included. what guests do on the other days, which recently, has been visiting universal studios instead of epcot, DHS, and AK, is what i believe they are hoping to avoid with this ticket.

the average vacation to disney has to be in the 4 days-to-a-week range (@ParentsOf4, any data on that?). maybe you could argue the average DVC member is a little longer. but what you're essentially posing to the consumer is this: give us a guaranteed day (doesn't have to be a full day, but you're incentive for it to be with no park hopping ability) at each park, we'll give you a discount. i believe that internal hope is that if a DVC family, who is probably used to doing some days that do not involve the parks (pool day, miniature golf, DTD, etc.), will look at each other and go, "wanna go to universal?" they'll ultimately come to the conclusion : "nah, i've had enough theme parks for one trip." disney then gets the added bonus of spreading out the crowds and goosing attendance figures at the other parks.

again, that's my read on it. i don't think disney care as much about keeping you there a full day (though they'll take that, too) as much as they care about you hopping on I-4 for any period of time.

If they just wanted you on property for 4 days why not just offer a $95 discount on the regular 4 day pass? It's more than just that. With a 4 day pass how many people would spend 2 days (or more) at MK and split time at the other parks or not visit them at all? MK is overcrowded. The other parks not so much. Why do you think they charge more for a 1 day ticket to MK?

They could fill out the other parks with rides and attractions to spread crowds but that will take time. Gimmicks like this help artificially spread the crowds. They can't guarantee people will stay in the park a full day, but if they leave they can't hop to another park so the guest is paying for a full day whether they use it or not.

 

[Mike S]

They could fill out the other parks with rides and attractions to spread crowds but that will take time.

They could've been doing just that for years now and we probably wouldn't have these problems. Instead they just sat around coming up with these gimmicks to solve a problem that needs much more work. The best metaphor for this behavior from TDO I've ever seen is a student willing to do anything for that A except study.

 

[The Mom]

Spirited Monday Musings:

15 pages behind?!?! UGH!!!

First, a note or a statement or just a personal bitchfest. But I don't owe anyone here anything, but honesty and integrity in what I post. My time is mine and I am not compensated at all for my time here. I state this, yet again, because someone here sent me a PM late last week and I didn't respond (yet), so they sent me a nasty second note over the weekend suggesting that I was being rude or not taking them seriously. Not true, but not the point.

My policy has always been to answer any/all notes I get (even the hate mail ones). But life takes precedence and this has been a busy time for me (I also have had a family medical emergency as a relative suffered a serious heart attack -- a real one -- and is basically in the same shape Joan Rivers was in a week or so ago.) So, please pardon me if I don't feel like anything here is all that pressing.

I was going to write this this morning after chugging a giant DD iced coffee and I didn't want Marcia to have to edit out all the 'naughty' words that I felt like dropping. But sometimes the true insanity just gets to me.

I am always willing to chat with members of this community. That's why I am here. But I can't respond to PMs/emails on your schedule. If it's life or death, you shouldn't be coming to me. Put the iPhone down, pick up a real phone and dial 911.


Absolutely true! This is a hobby/past-time and no one should expect you (or me, or anyone) to be at his/her beck and call 24/7. If you, or anyone else, doesn't respond in a timely manner is is because we're busy with more important things.

You don't get paid for posting here; I don't get paid to moderate - unless you count my free PML membership payment. This is just a discussion forum - a past-time. It isn't all that important in the whole scheme of things. Neither is a theme park, for that matter.

 

[Rteetz]

Video of the new paint the night parade

 

[mgf]

@WDW1974 Any thoughts on Eisner pimping Netflix's Bojack Horseman so publicly? (Or him saying a certain former US Vice President was Doctor Strangelove masquerading as "#PrincessAurora"? *popcorn* )

 

[stevehousse]

Video of the new paint the night parade

Thank u for posting that! I can't wait for the DL version! The Mickey Float was awesome!

 

[ParentsOf4]

the average vacation to disney has to be in the 4 days-to-a-week range (@ParentsOf4, any data on that?).

The average American vacation is down to 4 days, where it's been for about a decade. In the 1980s, it was about 5 1/2 days. In the 1970s, it was a week.

It's the reason WDW changed ticket pricing nearly a decade ago. When the MYW ticket was introduced in 2005, the first 4 days were expensive but, after that, the incremental cost dropped to $4/day, essentially free. Disney was trying to get Americans to lengthen their vacations in the hopes of capturing a bigger share of their dollars.

Universal will reach a critical juncture once it can offer 4 solid days of vacation fun. At that point, Uni and WDW will be competing for the same dollar. If Uni ever gets there, it could be ugly for WDW.

Uni needs a third theme park on par with the Magic Kingdom to reach that tipping point. Until then, Uni will remain a distant second.

The same shrinking vacation also means we may never see a 5th Gate at WDW. WDW already is a very full 4 days.

Adding a 5th Gate would result in more park hopping but it's highly doubtful it could generate enough new revenue to justify its investment cost.

Before someone get's defensive about WDW being more than 4 days, just remember that most vacationers do not do everything; only their highlights. I'm still waiting for all of you to join me on One Man's Dream, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and Carousel of Progress.

Disney is better served fixing its three lesser theme parks in order to encourage more Americans (80% of the customer base) to take their 4-day vacations at WDW.

A land based on a popular IP is the latest rage that has proven itself to be successful. It's a bit like a movie sequel; the IP will generate interest but, ultimately, the follow-up property will sink or swim on its own merits.

Whether you like the IP or not, what Disney is doing with Avatar at DAK is the right approach. If the land and attractions are well-executed, people will love it. If not, everyone will blame the IP.

Disney needs to take similar steps to fix DHS.

 

[Mike S]

I'm still waiting for all of you to join me on One Man's Dream, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and Carousel of Progress.

Already there but I prefer the Country Bears over the Tiki Room Birds