The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm pretty sure hell is being trapped in ice up to your waist, surrounded by motivational posters, and being forced to listen to business theories for eternity.
Lean, six sigma, moved cheese......*shudder*:depressed:

What is lost on so many though.. and disappointing is... when people dismiss 'management' topics as just suits and ties.. and 'what do they know'.. and don't give transformation topics like Lean/Agile any interest. The sad thing is... topics like Lean are actually EMPOWERING principles for the rank and file... not top down dictation. They are concepts that actually encourage participation and OWNERSHIP by the workers - fostering that 'everyone has a voice' concept so many workers wish they had.

Management when done right is not just budgets, personal management, and who has the bigger paychecks.

If people had more exposure to how management topics changed and influenced businesses - instead of just negative experiences - they'd look at it alot differently.

The sad irony is... this is a Disney community... an example where management principles and leadership ARE what made the company different from everyone else and so successful. Yet people largely in this community are anti-anything not an artist.

What made Walt Disney so great is not his art.. or even his creative choices (exclusively) - but also how he lead and built a company of people to execute on his vision.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
But you are mixing up steps you can take... with the motivations behind them. And then misapplying the motivation elsewhere.

Lean is not about 'reducing cost and eliminate waste' per say. Lean is about agility and prioritizing the outcome over process-attachment. Lean is to embrace continual improvement in how you do things with the motivation of being willing and able to adjust to adapt to your market needs. To keep it very short.. instead of saying "this is how the book say its done" - you embrace "is this the way that works best for what we need now?". Instead of strict top down dictation of process, be willing to take the input and experience of all involved. Be critical if something is actually delivering value or not.. or is it just baggage?

The OUTCOME of Lean evaluations is often a reduction of waste... because that excess didn't provide value to your outcome or improved flexibility, but elimination of waste is not the principle you set out to implement.

When I talk about motivations... and how you and others use it to label Disney in these negative connotations you're confusing lean with 'cost cutting'. you've got the motivations wrong.

It's like the difference between a person who is skinny because they were trying to be thin... vs a person who is skinny because they are an competitive athlete.

Both have done things to cut weight.. and maybe done things like eliminate things from their diet. But the athlete did not get skinny because they desired to be skinny - they got skinny because they've they require flexibility in their movements, they require a diet to ensure their muscles perform and don't cramp, their body fat is down because their body needed that energy, they needed to train, etc. The athlete prioritized and valued their performance - the losing weight was a benefit and in some cases necessary to deliver on the performance they desired.

The athlete measures their success based on their resulting athletic performance. Their choices were driven by desiring that outcome. The losing weight is a beneficial consequence - not the motivation.

The skinny person measures success simply based on how much weight they dropped. They were motivated only by 'cutting'.

The misapplication of lean in this thread is trying to paint the skinny dieting person as applying Lean. That is inaccurate. Simply setting out to reduce cost or improve margin for the sake of better profits is NOT Lean thinking or management.

I am WAY too slammed at work to try to play guest speaker on Lean - but we've been implementing lean and agile development for nearly a decade now. I don't keep references handy to try to explain it to people so I tried to briefly find something to illustrate this. Now, as I said I'm in WAY too deep at work to qualify this material fully.. so I don't vouch for their content as a whole here.. (its massive).. plus I personally have a huge hatred for McKinsey... but this paper speaks towards Lean Management and had a simple diagram highlighting high level principles of significance when we are talking about motivation.

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http://www.mckinsey.com/client_service/operations/latest_thinking/lean_management

I have not gone through their material but a few pages worth.. and it didn't seem to go that far off the rails from what I saw so I don't squirm too much over linking it. But the illustration above is the part people need to think about. 'Delivering value efficiently' is not simply CUT COSTS. Efficency may actually require greater costs for the return of better value to the customer (like... building an Automated Distribution Center so you can better adapt to the variations in customer orders).

Efficiency is about waste - not necessarily MARGIN.

Wow is there anything you cant Google?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Usage of "Moved Cheese" and LEAN and Six Sigma outside of a manufacturing context is simply BRAVO SIERRA

Nah... Lean has been successfully applied to development and in turn can be applied to many different processes and types of business execution.

It's not limited to turning screws and widgets. Hell, you can apply it to your daily home life even. Those who do believe and do so strongly.. you can see the traits in how they approach almost everything.
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member

These stings are happening all over Florida, catching people of all ages, in all occupations. It should not come as a surprise that one in Central FL would net employees from the area's largest employers - the family oriented tourist trade.

I suspect if they had one one in DC, it would be almost 100% politicians and government employees. In LA, it would net a lot of people in the entertainment business. NYC would get those in entertainment, fashion, and finance. And so on.
 

alphac2005

Well-Known Member
Hate to be the guy who brings up the distinguished competition again, but contrast with the closings of Kong and Jaws. The first event actually had a free pin commemorating the ride for APs, while the latter was given a couple weeks for a respectful send-off, and even allowed the final ride to be just former skippers.

I still have a King Kong keychain that they gave away to AP's as well in my office. I thought it was really classy that Universal did that and it was a time before they had their act really together as they do today.
 

71jason

Well-Known Member
Grady Judd loves him some Grady Judd. He is a very effective Sheriff, that does his best to make sure that criminals are behind bars. But Grady Judd loves him some Grady Judd.

Please. He has made it safe for fictional 13-year-old girls who are totes into creepy 40-year-old losers to go to Disney World. Perhaps now he can turn his attention to those annual home invasions across Polk County by that scoundrel Santa Claus.
 

71jason

Well-Known Member
It's just a matter of time before a prominent Disney blogger ends up in such an article.

Yes and no. On the one hand, no doubt Disney bloggers spend a lot of time online and a lot probably have ... psychological issues. However, who at News 13 or the Sentinel is going to read a name and say, "Oh hey, he's a Disney blogger!". Being famous to a 200-person clique on Twitter does not equate to fame in the real world.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
It's a remake of 'The Snow Queen' if you are familiar with the story you already know how it ends. Frozen has great visuals and songs but if you have read the Hans Christian Anderson story there are no surprises so for me at least its ok but nothing special.
Congratulations, you just effectively dismissed Walt Disney's entire life's work. Good job.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
That really surprises me. I know we're all sour on Disney right now, but dismissing their highest grossing animated film to date is strange.
Each to their own though.

I enjoyed The Lion King and Hunchback more personally.

Frozen was good but not the best IMHO. Didn't help waiting and waiting for THAT song to play. And when it had we both said "was that it?"

It definitely managed 100% to grab all the spin, hype and publicity to ensure a meteoric coaster ride right to the top. Certainly right place at the right time.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
Yes and no. On the one hand, no doubt Disney bloggers spend a lot of time online and a lot probably have ... psychological issues. However, who at News 13 or the Sentinel is going to read a name and say, "Oh hey, he's a Disney blogger!". Being famous to a 200-person clique on Twitter does not equate to fame in the real world.
If they are on the media list I'm sure a certain spirit knows a way to get that information in front of the right people
 

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