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The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

truecoat

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I have only been there once but the only time I noticed there was a large body of water whats while I was eating lunch at Mythos. It didnt seem like there were many viewing areas to me. Again I was only there once in my life this year so I could definitely be mistaken.
They had some test barges out there last year but not sure what came of it. I think they do have a night show in the works but apparently they are running on DTS. Disney Time Scale®. That's right, I registered that as a trademark.
 

PeterAlt

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I just don't get Pixar Place. Why create a land with only one attraction (TSMM)? And then, why is Pizza Planet (which would fit perfectly into Pixar Place) in the New York area of Hollywood Studios?

Yeah... DHS is under a major identity crisis.
Pixar Place was to also have Monsters Inc. Door Coaster. Now, that MIDC has been cancelled for HS, DCA wants it.

The pizzeria on NY Street was going to be Gonzo's Pizza and was to be part of a larger Muppets Studios area that would have included the 3D movie plus the Great Muppet Movie Ride, a parody of the GMR, that was actually worked on by the late Jim Henson.

Sunset Boulevard was to have **** Tracy Crime Stoppers, using the same ride technology as the Indiana Jones ride in DL and a Chicago themed section, as well as a section with Roger Rabbit rides.

Amazing how all these sections started and never completed. Just imagine what could have been. Also cancelled was a monorail extension from EC to HS and an electric street car that would have connected the nearby hotels, as well as EC.

I think I'm gonna cry!
 

flynnibus

Well-Known Member
I've said it before, but I'm really surprised that Uni doesn't have a high quality nighttime show in IOA over the water there. It would be a natural fit and really round out that park.
I'm not suprised... when it comes to fireworks and entertainment shows of that genre... UNI is pretty far behind Disney. The lagoon show put in the USF lagoon wasn't knocking people's socks off. And I have to imagine given their location, USF is a lot more restricted in pyro/fireworks than WDW is.
 

PeterAlt

Well-Known Member
The place is absolutely a mess. Seems like MK is the only place that seems to have any flow anymore. If world showcase actually gets the frozen overlay that is just another example of things where they don't belong.
It's not a mess, just unfinished.

EDIT - it's an unfinished mess.
 
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marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
I've said it before, but I'm really surprised that Uni doesn't have a high quality nighttime show in IOA over the water there. It would be a natural fit and really round out that park.
A show is in the works. Im surprised nothing has premiered yet aside from long past attempts.

Given attention will swing back somewhat to IOA next year I would hope a lagoon show finally premieres too. Though how to make it different enough to Cinespec is anyone's guess.
 

PeterAlt

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I wouldn't say EpCot has an identity crisis yet. If Norway gets the Frozen overlay, then World Showcase's compromise between representing the beauty of countries and Disney-fying them to the fullest extent would give that area, at the very least, an identity crisis. Future World, not so much.

That's been my main complaint with DHS. It has no idea what it wants to be, and with the exception of its premier attractions (ToT, RRC), everything else in DHS could easily go in another park.
EC, I assume, will be unrecognizable in 10 or 15 years. I assume it will find itself a new identity. I imagine WS will look no different than HS, and FW will look no different than TL.
 

PeterAlt

Well-Known Member
Its a mess.

With no proper cohesive long term plan - and the issues from 89-90 - the park has become a sprawl of unplanned expansion areas bolted on to other unplanned areas interspersed with areas of nothing.
Well, that's because these sections are unfinished. Finish them either by building what had been planned or by creating a logical unifying theme and... Tada!
 

doctornick

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Its a mess.

With no proper cohesive long term plan - and the issues from 89-90 - the park has become a sprawl of unplanned expansion areas bolted on to other unplanned areas interspersed with areas of nothing.
Yes. What DHS needs right now is a long term master plan for development. What attractions can be added in the short term to help capacity, what major changes are going to happen to solidify an identity for the park and a target layout to improve all the flow in guest areas. Sadly, with the projects that seem to be considered and then put on the backburner, it doesn't seem like TDO/Burbank can even come up with a short term plan, let alone a master plan for the long term. It doesn't give me hope that DHS is going to be "fixed" any time soon -- or than any changes are going to be quality solutions for the long term.

I will point out that USF has the same sort of identity crisis though. Attractions are pretty much randomly placed there, often without any particular theme. The park has a far better layout though.

DAK is also underdeveloped like DHS, but at least it has a logical setup and expansion plans are sensibly addressing issues.
 
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