The New Fantasyland

[Azerin]

To me, it looks like "CHEESE COASTER".:shrug::ROFLOL:

Actually you know... that wouldn't be entirely impossible since the Fairies area is right there... and the name of the mouse in Tinkerbell: The movie was.... Cheese

But Cheshire Cat could be kewl if they theme it well and somehow hide Indy Speedway so there was a whole little AiW section.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Plane Crazy?

Whaddyatryin' to do? Make this DCA?:fork::lol:



(Not that I would mind....)

Disney has made some sweeping internal announcements and is investigating how the plans leaked.

Again, this doesn't mean that the plans leaked online are 100% approved, but it does mean that they're close enough to concern the Company.

Frankly, I can't blame them. This really is a serious breach of the NDA. :shrug:

On the bright side, whoever leaked the plans restored the public's faith in WDP&R: everyone from fans to the Sentinel to investors have noticed the leaked blueprints, and the consensus has been, "It's about time!"

That's very good to hear...

They know. As soon as the MK refurbs began and one E-ticket's closure crowded the rest of the park, Disney knew the MK needed more attractions. Unfortunately, people in very high positions had to step over the proper channels to do other people's jobs. (Is that vague enough?) At least it's happening!

...and so is that. I really do hope this is close to what we get. It's only one ride, but look at the scope of it! It's huge. Alters the MK in a very big, very nice way. If we end up having a FL that's lush and green like DLP....I'm thrilled.

 

[janoimagine]

Whaddyatryin' to do? Make this DCA?

I wouldn't mind something from DCA, mainly the new World of Color Show they are working on. I've been following some of the construction on this show, to say it's mind blowing is an understatement. Where we could fit this into WDW I don't know. Here's a link to a article I found on it: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/world-of-color-pictures-artwork-and.html

 

[jt04]

I wouldn't mind something from DCA, mainly the new World of Color Show they are working on. I've been following some of the construction on this show, to say it's mind blowing is an understatement. Where we could fit this into WDW I don't know. Here's a link to a article I found on it: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/world-of-color-pictures-artwork-and.html

A slightly smaller version would work perfectly in the Fantasmic theater. Perfectly.

 

[WDW1974]

I wouldn't mind something from DCA, mainly the new World of Color Show they are working on. I've been following some of the construction on this show, to say it's mind blowing is an understatement. Where we could fit this into WDW I don't know. Here's a link to a article I found on it: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/world-of-color-pictures-artwork-and.html

It absolutely is amazing and will set a new standard for Disney night shows.

(Some of us ... what does JT call us? ... Doom and Gloomers? have been saying so since we first heard about the project years ago!)

But it's not coming to WDW (it is coming to TDS in 2012), and I don't think it should.

DCA deserves its own unique spectacle. Disney parks aren't Starbucks or WalMarts.

I've heard some suggest it for EPCOT and that would truly drive the nail into the coffin because the show may be amazing, but it's about Disney films ... animation ... has no purpose or reason for being at EPCOT.

What EPCOT needs is a mindblowing new version of Illuminations (and I'm just using the name since Disney has since 1988 ... doesn't have to be) that people can only see there. And yes, you could certainly use the technology of WoC and create something entirely different.

 

[The Conundrum]

It absolutely is amazing and will set a new standard for Disney night shows.

(Some of us ... what does JT call us? ... Doom and Gloomers? have been saying so since we first heard about the project years ago!)

The irony is that I (and you and im sure many others) were praising it long before JT even heard about it.

As for it coming to TDS I heard that was just a bluesky idea and I really hope it doesn't happen (or if it does it should be a different show with its own theme). It seems like aside from the Trolleys and Carsland DCA is having a problem locking in exclusives (which it needs desperatly). I haven't set foot in DCA since it opened and the two rides I would have gone to the park to see (Midway Mania, Soarin') ended up opening at WDW so there was no point in me going.

Same thing with Mermaid if it opens in WDW in roughly the same time as DCA I think I might just go see the MK version instead.

 

[WDW1974]

The irony is that I (and you and im sure many others) were praising it long before JT even heard about it.

As for it coming to TDS I heard that was just a bluesky idea and I really hope it doesn't happen (or if it does it should be a different show with its own theme). It seems like aside from the Trolleys and Carsland DCA is having a problem locking in exclusives (which it needs desperatly). I haven't set foot in DCA since it opened and the two rides I would have gone to the park to see (Midway Mania, Soarin') ended up opening at WDW so there was no point in me going.

Same thing with Mermaid if it opens in WDW in roughly the same time as DCA I think I might just go see the MK version instead.

No, OLC wants it and it is coming to TDS.

I would tend to agree about exclusives. It's nice to have things that are unique.

That said, and at the risk of blowing my 'rep' as a Disney basher, I like DCA and actually have since Day 1 (in many ways, Disney took out the wrong stuff and added the wrong stuff in desperation moves).

I easily get more enjoyment out of DCA than TPFKaTD-MGMS. There's plenty of quality there today from unique things like Aladdin (best theme park show I've ever seen) to Monsters: Ride and Go Seek to Grizzly River Run (best raft ride I've been on and I generally hate them) to Screamin (great thrilling coaster that isn't too intense) to Disney Animation (the best animation attraction) etc ... then toss in major things that are cloned like Soarin (at least they keep the film pristine there unlike EPCOT's dust bunnies), ToT, Tough To Be a Bug and now TSMM ... bottom line is DCA is a quality park today and it's gonna get a whole lot better.

That's leaving out dining and atmosphere etc ... but I can't wait to go back to DCA. No one should judge it by the Internet.

(Did I just blow my Disney hater cover?)

 

[The Conundrum]

(Did I just blow my Disney hater cover?)

Yes, please hand over your D&G club card :lol:

The biggest problem with the original DCA was A) Lack of themeing B) Lack of immersive rides C) superstar limo (I will never forgive imagineering for this, NEVER)

Other problems include too many 3D video attractions, not enough effort to block external scenery, too many off-the-shelf carnivale rides (literally), invalid ratio of reasturants/shops to attractions (thanks Pre$$ler), etc.

Also just the simple fact that the same year that Tokyo Disneysea opens they opened the worst park in disney history right next to Walt's original (only to top it a year later with DSP) was just the biggest insult and slap in the face to guests I have ever seen. They deserved all the bash and ridicule they got from tourists, locals, the media, the internet, etc.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It seems like aside from the Trolleys and Carsland DCA is having a problem locking in exclusives

Unless the Studios get a version...

Same thing with Mermaid if it opens in WDW in roughly the same time as DCA I think I might just go see the MK version instead.

Same here. It is a lot easier for me to wait until 2012 when Carsland opens and just drive the seven hours to the Magic Kingdom.

 

[drew81]

Yes, please hand over your D&G club card :lol:

The biggest problem with the original DCA was A) Lack of themeing B) Lack of immersive rides C) superstar limo (I will never forgive imagineering for this, NEVER)

Other problems include too many 3D video attractions, not enough effort to block external scenery, too many off-the-shelf carnivale rides (literally), invalid ratio of reasturants/shops to attractions (thanks Pre$$ler), etc.

Also just the simple fact that the same year that Tokyo Disneysea opens they opened the worst park in disney history right next to Walt's original (only to top it a year later with DSP) was just the biggest insult and slap in the face to guests I have ever seen. They deserved all the bash and ridicule they got from tourists, locals, the media, the internet, etc.

I did not like how many of the show buildings could be seen from inside the park. Especially It's Tough to be a Bug. The visible show buliding from the farm wasnt very "Disney" to me. I'm not sure how they could've bulilt a berm but things could've been done to improve some of the sightline issues.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

I wouldn't mind something from DCA, mainly the new World of Color Show they are working on. I've been following some of the construction on this show, to say it's mind blowing is an understatement. Where we could fit this into WDW I don't know. Here's a link to a article I found on it: http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/world-of-color-pictures-artwork-and.html

Indeed. That show is going to revolutionize night time entertainment spectaculars at Disney Parks.

It absolutely is amazing and will set a new standard for Disney night shows.

(Some of us ... what does JT call us? ... Doom and Gloomers? have been saying so since we first heard about the project years ago!)

But it's not coming to WDW (it is coming to TDS in 2012), and I don't think it should.

DCA deserves its own unique spectacle. Disney parks aren't Starbucks or WalMarts.

I've heard some suggest it for EPCOT and that would truly drive the nail into the coffin because the show may be amazing, but it's about Disney films ... animation ... has no purpose or reason for being at EPCOT.

What EPCOT needs is a mindblowing new version of Illuminations (and I'm just using the name since Disney has since 1988 ... doesn't have to be) that people can only see there. And yes, you could certainly use the technology of WoC and create something entirely different.

Honestly, TDS? :brick: That's a wrong fit, too. TDS is about the ocean, adventure, mystery, the Sea! I don't know why "movies and magic" fits there. And anyway, BraviSEAmo is fantastic. Why not just upgrade that.

And the tech for WoC would be fantastic in IllumiNations. Who needs the earth barge when you have that mist screen. I'm sure they could make it all kewl and make it into a ring.

And yes, the title "IllumiNations" should always be kept. It has a identity and a very EPCOT one at that. Besides, it does not have to be the title...As we see with "IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth".

 

[dxwwf3]

I've heard some suggest it for EPCOT and that would truly drive the nail into the coffin because the show may be amazing, but it's about Disney films ... animation ... has no purpose or reason for being at EPCOT.

Would it honestly surprise anyone if they put it there? It's a sad thing, but I don't think it would surprise many.

What EPCOT needs is a mindblowing new version of Illuminations (and I'm just using the name since Disney has since 1988 ... doesn't have to be) that people can only see there. And yes, you could certainly use the technology of WoC and create something entirely different.

Amen to that! I can't wait for the next Illuminations.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Would it honestly surprise anyone if they put it there? It's a sad thing, but I don't think it would surprise many.

No, it wouldn't at all. :fork:

Amen to that! I can't wait for the next Illuminations.

I'm curious as well... I'm expecting a lot out of the next incarnation of IllumiNations. Its going to interesting to see how they top the story and cohesive theme of Reflections of Earth.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Would it honestly surprise anyone if they put it there? It's a sad thing, but I don't think it would surprise many.



Amen to that! I can't wait for the next Illuminations.

I can....:lookaroun


*loves ROE*:lol:

 

[WDW1974]

Yes, please hand over your D&G club card :lol:

JT can have it. He can hand it over to the imaginary sheriff he talks to in bed or in his head!

The biggest problem with the original DCA was A) Lack of themeing B) Lack of immersive rides C) superstar limo (I will never forgive imagineering for this, NEVER)

I can't disagree with A and B ... C wasn't a WDI issue. It was a Burbank one. I'm still not sure the concept was great. But it was supposed to be much more of a wild ride deal with paparazzi chasing you around LA/Hollywood/90210/Malibu etc ... but then Princess Di was killed and they neutered the attraction.

But even from Day 1, there were many nice parts of DCA ... a lot of quality, which is amazing considering the -end backwards way the park was created.

Other problems include too many 3D video attractions, not enough effort to block external scenery, too many off-the-shelf carnivale rides (literally), invalid ratio of reasturants/shops to attractions (thanks Pre$$ler), etc.

All true, all true. But remember that DCA got dumbed down considerably by the budget ax too. Much like DAK losing BK, go look around the art hanging in the Paradise Pier Hotel and see how much of Tim Delaney's work got axed or cut to bare minimum. No, we wouldn't have had the same (some might say same old, since Disney loves the look) Victorian overlay now ... but it wouldn't have been plastic, concrete and stucco that we got either. ... Look at the history of Golden Dreams (now history) and see how a California AA-spectacle in the same class as EPCOT's American Adventure became a movie without even a pre-show.

There are countless examples of why DCA turned out as it did.

Also just the simple fact that the same year that Tokyo Disneysea opens they opened the worst park in disney history right next to Walt's original (only to top it a year later with DSP) was just the biggest insult and slap in the face to guests I have ever seen. They deserved all the bash and ridicule they got from tourists, locals, the media, the internet, etc.

Can't disagree. In 18 months time, Disney debutted DCA and DSP (made DCA look like a masterpiece) with its money and TDS with OLC's ...

 

[sponono88]

Yes, please hand over your D&G club card :lol:

The biggest problem with the original DCA was A) Lack of themeing B) Lack of immersive rides C) superstar limo (I will never forgive imagineering for this, NEVER)

I disagree, DCA had plenty of themeing. Maybe it was just themeing you didn't like or weren't willing to look for.. but it was definitely there. Could they have expanded the themeing? Yes - and that is what they are doing now. The areas around Grizzly Trail and Condor Flats are all beautifully-themed.

I'm excited about the changes coming to DCA, but I agree with WDW1974 about Disney removing the wrong things from the park. Especially when they remove attractions and never replace them (Hello Old Millionaire building!) But that is a topic for a separate discussion..

 

[JustInTime]

It absolutely is amazing and will set a new standard for Disney night shows.

(Some of us ... what does JT call us? ... Doom and Gloomers? have been saying so since we first heard about the project years ago!)

But it's not coming to WDW (it is coming to TDS in 2012), and I don't think it should.

DCA deserves its own unique spectacle. Disney parks aren't Starbucks or WalMarts.

I've heard some suggest it for EPCOT and that would truly drive the nail into the coffin because the show may be amazing, but it's about Disney films ... animation ... has no purpose or reason for being at EPCOT.

What EPCOT needs is a mindblowing new version of Illuminations (and I'm just using the name since Disney has since 1988 ... doesn't have to be) that people can only see there. And yes, you could certainly use the technology of WoC and create something entirely different.

What if WDW updated Fantasmic! with some of the World Of Color stuff? I wouldn't mind seeing Alice and Walle in the show!

 

[Studios Fan]

What if WDW updated Fantasmic! with some of the World Of Color stuff? I wouldn't mind seeing Alice and Walle in the show!

I would definitely like to see an updated Fantasmic.

 

[JustInTime]

I would definitely like to see an updated Fantasmic.

It could be cool! Add a couple of new Villans too! Perhaps even PatF!

 

[The Conundrum]

I disagree, DCA had plenty of themeing. Maybe it was just themeing you didn't like or weren't willing to look for.. but it was definitely there.