The New Fantasyland

[EpcotServo]

Off Topic Rant: So I just got back from Illuminations, and can I say I hate the new "Celebrate" spiel afterwards. Seriously, it made me sick, not to mention the crap "Celebrate You" song playing after "We Go On".:hurl:

I know...I want to take the master copy of that song out to the backyard and burn it with a flame thrower, then tossing it into a boiling vat of toxin, and then throwing a lighter in there and watching it explode, followed by sweeping up the ashes, and exploding the sweeper.

 

[_Scar]

When would we hear about this Sirgoofy? within the next month?

 

[SirGoofy]

When would we hear about this Sirgoofy? within the next month?

I can honestly say that I was given no info on announcement dates. Sorry.

 

[_Scar]

You can say a lot without giving away anything at all. Are these blue prints misleading? Is that the only news that you've heard of expansion in WDW?

 

[MichWolv]

That's the spot! :wave:



That map lies big time!

Trust me, plants are not behind Main Street. :lol:

Nope. No plants. No green. Saw it on the Backstage Magic Tour a couple years ago and one horrible 4th of July a few years before that when they had us exit out of Tomorrowland instead of down Main Street.

Then where do you suggest they'd be? Beyond tracks? I doubt they would ever consider that.

Edit- you seem condfident... is there something you know that the general public doesn't?

krank knows many things the general public does not. But the fact that there is room in AL is not one of them.

Close. Very close.



You should be banned for even thinking/mentioning this!:fork:

:lol:



Plenty. Not to mention the wide open walkways the land will have after:zipit:





No, but there is a Jungle Cruise break room back there somewhere!:lol:

I must be the only one who would like the carpets to stay. They make a much better Dumbo than Dumbo does. Larger capacity, and they do a little bit more. Plus the safety spiel is pretty funny.

 

[RSoxNo1]

See, and I like the DL one better BECAUSE of the boats. It feels much more out of control, seems MUCH steeper (even though its technically only 1 degree steeper at DL) and is just more fun in my opinion. I like the themeing better at DL as well. It fits better in Critter Country than in Frontierland, the music is better, there's a scene that's not in the WDW version and at least my last visit to each park (Jan. at WDW, right after the refurb, Feb. and March at DL) all of the AAs that I noticed in DL were working, while several were not at WDW. Aside from the hopping Br'er Rabbit, there were several AAs with non-moving mouths, eyes, etc.
Of course, we're talking mere percentage points. On a 1-100 scale I'd give DL version a 91 and the WDW version an 89.
Tower of Terror on the other hand gets a 75 at DL and a 95 at WDW.
Snow White is also better at WDW.
In reality, the rides that are better at one resort or another are minimally better at best, with the glaring exceptions of Pirates, ToT and Space Mountain.
Of course DL trumps WDW in one very important category: toads. The DL version isn't as good as the now extinct WDW version, but its something.

I would agree that Splash Mountain fits into Critter Country more than Frontierland. It disrupts the time flow leading from Liberty Square all the way to Thunder Mountain. That being said, I think Critter Country is a relatively poor concept for a land in Disneyland, but I don't know where else to put Splash Mountain, maybe Fantasyland?

 

[_Scar]

I just need some confirmations to start coming from Disney!

 

[CastleBound]

I just need some confirmations to start coming from Disney!

second that.... this expectation and curiosity is killing me!!

 

[Studios Fan]

I just need some confirmations to start coming from Disney!

Agreed.

 

[brucie]

Agreed.

Double agreed!!!

 

[novanoto]

I know...I want to take the master copy of that song out to the backyard and burn it with a flame thrower, then tossing it into a boiling vat of toxin, and then throwing a lighter in there and watching it explode, followed by sweeping up the ashes, and exploding the sweeper.

could be the greatest post on a message board i've ever seen. and i don't even know the song as i haven't seen illuminations in a couple of years!! but i literally laughed out loud at this. well played my friend, well played!

 

[jt04]

Close. Very close.

Thanks.

Just MK or the other rumor too? I promise I won't ask anything else.

 

[Rob562]

:ROFLOL:

but i'm still not seeing it. only open area i can see that would be usable is on the other side of the track between the monorail, EWP canal and PotC showbuilding...
now that would be one long queue line...

Have you ever been on the Indiana Jones Adventure in Disneyland?
The ride building is easily 400 feet from the main Adventureland walkway, with the queue shoehorned in between Pirates and the Jungle Cruise and crossing under the railroad tracks. (They actually altered the JC waterway slightly to give them a little more room for the start of the queue)

In fact, Florida's Space Mountain queue covers about an equal distance, as it goes under the railroad track and then through the center of the mountain to the far side before you reach the boarding area...

-Rob

 

[marsrunner]

I would agree that Splash Mountain fits into Critter Country more than Frontierland. It disrupts the time flow leading from Liberty Square all the way to Thunder Mountain. That being said, I think Critter Country is a relatively poor concept for a land in Disneyland, but I don't know where else to put Splash Mountain, maybe Fantasyland?

Yeah, I have no idea where it would fit better. Critter Country is a pretty lame "land" (there's only three attractions there). It isn't horrible in Frontierland or anything, but its supposed to be the American West, which Georgia is not in last time I saw. At least they made the music more frontier-like (whatever that means) and its such a wonderful ride that I give it a pass for the most part. I never see it and think "That just doesn't fit thematically!" I'm more thinking "Woohoo! Let's go get soaked!"

 

[TP2000]

Yeah, I have no idea where it would fit better. Critter Country is a pretty lame "land" (there's only three attractions there). It isn't horrible in Frontierland or anything, but its supposed to be the American West, which Georgia is not in last time I saw.

Critter Country is actually the American South. And it worked beautifully until Pooh arrived. Frontierland is the American West, and that's worked beautifully since 1955.

Frontierland 1955-2009 leads to "New Orleans Street", which is the Riverbelle Terrace facility that has been there since 1955. Riverbelle Terrace transitions to New Orleans Square, which was added in 1966 as the Queen City in the Jazz Age, and many consider New Orleans Square to be Imagineering at its finest. On the edge of New Orleans Square is Haunted Mansion, a Southern plantation home on the edge of town. And that transitions perfectly into the rural American South of Critter Country. Critter Country contains Splash Mountain, or "Georgia" as you put it, and Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes. Davy Crockett, as you remember from your history books and the famous song that plays on a loop in Disneyland, was "born on a mountaintop in Tennessee, greenest state in the land of the free". The Volunteer State of Tennessee is next to The Peach State of Georgia, both in real life geography, and at Disneyland.

But the whole Critter Country = American South thing fell apart in 2003 when Disneyland President Cynthia Harriss replaced the Country Bear Jamboree with a Winnie The Pooh ride. A British bear has nothing to do with the American South or Critter Country, no offense to our good friends from Britain. The good news is that about six months after Winnie The Pooh opened in '03, Cynthia was fired, er, "resigned effective immediately to spend more time with family". For the record, she was an unmarried woman with no children.

Cynthia Harriss did many bad things for Disneyland, shoehorning Winnie The Pooh into Critter Country was actually one of her lesser crimes. But there it is.

 

[_Scar]

everyone is going off topic. we aren't even in WDW anymore lol

I still don't get this castle wall thing. Which castle is it? A new one or Cindy's?

 

[krankenstein]

Critter Country is actually the American South. And it worked beautifully until Pooh arrived. Frontierland is the American West, and that's worked beautifully since 1955.

Frontierland 1955-2009 leads to "New Orleans Street", which is the Riverbelle Terrace facility that has been there since 1955. Riverbelle Terrace transitions to New Orleans Square, which was added in 1966 as the Queen City in the Jazz Age, and many consider New Orleans Square to be Imagineering at its finest. On the edge of New Orleans Square is Haunted Mansion, a Southern plantation home on the edge of town. And that transitions perfectly into the rural American South of Critter Country. Critter Country contains Splash Mountain, or "Georgia" as you put it, and Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes. Davy Crockett, as you remember from your history books and the famous song that plays on a loop in Disneyland, was "born on a mountaintop in Tennessee, greenest state in the land of the free". The Volunteer State of Tennessee is next to The Peach State of Georgia, both in real life geography, and at Disneyland.

But the whole Critter Country = American South thing fell apart in 2003 when Disneyland President Cynthia Harriss replaced the Country Bear Jamboree with a Winnie The Pooh ride. A British bear has nothing to do with the American South or Critter Country, no offense to our good friends from Britain. The good news is that about six months after Winnie The Pooh opened in '03, Cynthia was fired, er, "resigned effective immediately to spend more time with family". For the record, she was an unmarried woman with no children.

Cynthia Harriss did many bad things for Disneyland, shoehorning Winnie The Pooh into Critter Country was actually one of her lesser crimes. But there it is.

Our Liberty Square to Frontierland works really well too. You start in New England and transition to The Golden Horseshoe (St. Louis) across the little Mississippi into Frontierland around all the way to California (BTMRR).

Unfortunately, Splash does ruin the story. That said, if you can overlook it, the architecture and transitions all the way across the states is pretty cool to observe.

everyone is going off topic. we aren't even in WDW anymore lol

I still don't get this castle wall thing. Which castle is it? A new one or Cindy's?

Cindy's. I heard the announcement was coming in October at the annual media tour, but that is far from official.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The good news is that about six months after Winnie The Pooh opened in '03, Cynthia was fired, er, "resigned effective immediately to spend more time with family". For the record, she was an unmarried woman with no children.

Oh snap. :lol:

But they at least tried with SM to make it fit by changing the type and colour of rock work and the buildings surrounding the attraction. It certainly has a south west look outside, even if inside it's south east.

However it's such a great ride I don't care.

 

[Figment632]

everyone is going off topic. we aren't even in WDW anymore lol

I still don't get this castle wall thing. Which castle is it? A new one or Cindy's?

I think that since they are not redoing the current FL buildings and are staying with the fair theme that the wall will make it look like a fair outside the castle grounds. I havent studied the plans that well so I could be totally wrong.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

I think that since they are not redoing the current FL buildings and are staying with the fair theme that the wall will make it look like a fair outside the castle grounds. I havent studied the plans that well so I could be totally wrong.

This may have been imagined before but since the plans don't show the West side of FL with IASW and PPF, wouldn't it be cool if they put up a second castle wall separating those two rides from MP and Pinnochio's? That way when you walk out of the West wall you're transported into the fair? I think just having the one castle wall on the East side would look kinda strange. :shrug: