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General Grizz

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A new must-read!

Cast Member Corner: Is it a sin to have too much synergy?
JHM's most controversial column returns. This time around, Guest Writer Kenny H. -- a former Disney World cast member --talks about how the Walt Disney Company lost its way. Is making taking profits -- rather than pleasing people -- the corporation's top priority ultimately what made the Magic Kingdom lose much of its magic?

Last week, 3 guests were sent to the hospital after a collision on the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad ride at Disneyland in Anaheim, California. This is the third such accident in a year. The first of this trifecta cost a man his life.

These days, if you go to Walt Disney World in Lake Buena Vista, Florida, or the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, you get an eyeful of branding...an ABC Week here, a Soap Opea fest there, ESPN being touted at restaurants, live-action movies being shilled on construction walls.

Disney's Animal Kingdom is like an socioenvironmental radical's propaganda dream come true...the river ride shows a rainforest aflame, putting lives in danger. Conservation Station speaks of diminishing habitats and species on the brink of extinction. The Kilimanjaro Safari would be nothing more than a clone of Wild Adventures' or Busch Gardens' own safari excursions, were it not for the semi-thrilling race against a team of eeeevil poachers.

Two of Disney's recent theatrical flops, "The Alamo" and "King Arthur," serve to demystify a duo of Disney's most beloved mythological characters: Davy Crockett and Arthur, King of England, who was first introduced to many a child through the animated classic "The Sword in the Stone."

As a former cast member, I often think back to the times I had during my time working at Magic Kingdom park in Florida. Especially my first few days of training, which were really more of an excuse to explore the park and learn the stories of what went on behind the scenes when the park complex was still on the drawing board. I didn't have more fun at any time during my "tour of duty, as it were.

But one thing stood out for me, it was something our guide during our park orientation tour said to us: "The aim of this park is FANTASY. People come here to get away from reality. It's our job to make sure that once people walk through those gates, that they enter another world, where what goes on outside does not intrude."

Given the above examples, is Disney corporate following its own mandate?

There was a time when the parks and the animation studio were the core of the Disney empire. Everything else the company did was considered advertising for those two aspects, starting with Walt's own TV show, "Disneyland", invented as a way to introduce audiences to the four main sectors of the original park. "The Wonderful World of Disney" featured openings and anniversary celebrations at the parks, concerts, and fun travels with celebrities touring the parks (never thought I'd see Kurt "Snake Plissken" Russell and Donny "This Smile is Surgically Fixed" Osmond in the same TV special). Walt even used his show as a way to get the word out about new attractions and events coming to the parks, long before the advent of the World Wide Web and Disney Magazine.

Something happened after Eisner took over. It seems the parks and the films became a platform for advertising both other aspects of the company and its own agenda (some would say a political one).

The Pirates of the Caribbean stopped chasing the wenches. The Jungle Cruise lost its guns. Buena Vista started releasing R-rated films. "Synergy" became a key word as new Disney acquisitions such as ABC and ESPN started getting their names and images slapped up around the parks. And suddenly, people started thinking, "This isn't the way things were when I was a kid."

Even the thing that started it all...finely-crafted, unique, epic animated filmmaking...became a thing of the past. This started out with the introduction of the so-called "cheapquel," low-cost direct-to-video sequels to the studio's animated classics produced by the company's television animation division. Then, fans' worst fears came to pass last year with the closure of the animation studio in Florida, who had produced "Mulan" and "Lilo & Stitch," two of the company's better animated films of the modern era.

The company has decided to shift its focus to 3D rendered computer animation, after viewing the shocking success it has brought to Steve Jobs' Pixar Studios. Now, Walt was certainly no Luddite, and embraced new technologies with the fervor of a schoolboy, one of the eccentric charms that led to the infatuation the public has with him, even today. In fact, the 1982 film "Tron," though not the cult success it would prove to be today, was greenlit on the basis of "What would Walt do?" But Walt also was a scholar of history and heritage, one of the reasons why today every park contains a section dedicated to the history and culture of the United States. Walt would likely have embraced CG Animation as well, but not on the condition of abandoning hand-drawn art.

In the post-"Lion King" Disney, the sale is the thing. That film showed the Board of Directors what synergy done RIGHT could properly produce. The problem was, the company didn't know when to stop. Suddenly, every time there was a new release, we had to endure toys at McDonalds, signage in the parks, ads in the literature, ridiculously-themed parades and shows, and ride re-themings. Not to mention the myriad of stuffed animals, T-shirts, toys, and souvenirs that were crammed onto gift shops in the parks.

Then, suddenly, there was a movie starring Goofy released, prominently featuring the ESPN and X-Games logos. Things had gone too far.

The parks had stopped selling the movie, they had started selling the merchandise INSPIRED by the movie. Rather than creating interest from the fans, it instead crammed it down everyone's throats.

The movies had stopped entertaining, and started shilling the product.

Synergy...it was all about the money. Greed is how fantasies start getting ruined.

Then the Board got another bright idea. A lot of the money they were taking in was being reinvested in the parks. So, said they, "Cut ye your budgets." And Paul Pressler and croniette Cynthia Harriss gladly obliged by cutting back spending on training, maintenance and staffing (Al Weiss, on the other hand, simply held off on any expansion projects at the WDW resorts).

At Disneyland, Tomorrowland was nearly completely shuttered. Maintenance was stretched thin. Training sessions, in many cases, were reduced to a third of the time that they normally took. Materials were replaced with cheaper alternatives. Costumes were changed across the board. Older, higher-paid employees were laid off.

At the Florida Property, new rides were canceled or severely cut back. Animal Kingdom's BEASTLY KINGDOM expansion, which would have made it possibly THE thrill park of Central Florida, was unceremoniously vaulted.

Then people on the West Coast started dying.

It started when a cleat was torn from the hull of the Sailing Ship Columbia and thrown into the crowd...a Microsoft software engineer was killed and two others injured. Others were injured when Space Mountain derailed. A worker died after falling from the catwalk of the Hyperion Theater. And in the past year, one man has died and thirteen have been injured in three separate accidents (one riderless) on Big Thunder Mountain. The first two accidents were traced to inadequate maintenance on the ride and inadequate operations training, respectively. The most recent is still under investigation.

Death and injury are the most inexcusable of intrusions into the fantasy of the sacred "Guest Experience".

Why did people stop going to see Disney's animated films? Because they stopped being unique and epic.
Why did people stop going to the parks? Because there wasn't anything new to discover there anymore.
Why did people stop watching ABC? Because it stopped being a source for quality programming and started becoming an advertisement for itself and its sister subsidiaries.

To butcher a phrase from Dr. Broom in the movie "Hellboy" :

"In the absence of magic, reality prevails."

Disney has lost its magic, both through its own actions and lack thereof. This company will always hold a special place in my heart because it was where I spent one of the best summers of my life. But I like to believe that what I saw was WALT's spirit shining thorough a veil of stagnation that it is going to take a huge effort to clear.

THAT is the company I went to work for. What it is now is nothing but a shadow of its former self.
 

Scooter

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This article appeared in the
December 24, 2002, Issue #170 of ALL EARS® (ISSN: 1533-0753)

There are 2 sides to every story..Lets hear them both my friends. :animwink:



Disney World. The Realm of *The* Mouse. Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Disney-MGM Studios. The Animal Kingdom. Remember your first time?

Perhaps you went grudgingly, a mere passenger on a vacation that you wished was at some other destination. The only Pre-Mouse World thoughts you had were, "For this kind of money, we could have gone to Europe, for Pete's sake."

Maybe you first went as a teen with your parents, and you thought you would prefer a week of listening to your stereo, and hanging out at the mall, over a trip to "DorkeyWorld" in Florida.

Or you went as a parent, who finally yielded to the nagging kids.

If you're like me (not that I would wish that on anyone!) your first trip to Disney World actually began long before it was built. It began as a child's daydreams, in front of the neighbor's big new RCA *color* television set ("Don't sit too close, that darn thing has radiation!") on a Sunday night. Walt himself guided you through each attraction at a truly wondrous place called Disneyland a zillion miles away.

In those days, everything was further away, the world (the Real World) was a much larger place. A trip from the suburbs of Manhattan to the "Pocono Mountains" of Pennsylvania required weeks of planning, packing the Packard with provisions, and leaving before sun up, in preparation for crossing the mighty Delaware Water Gap.

California was a place you went to only if you were a movie star, a Rockefeller, or a military man going to southeast Asia. If you were an east coast kid in whatever your version of Washington Street in Mount Vernon, New York, was, you weren't going... ever.

Until, that is, Disney came to the other side of the country.

Whatever your reasons for first going to Disney World, there are very few who are not in some way moved by what they see, feel, smell, and hear in their first trip to Mousedom.

With that thought in mind, I'd like to attempt to offer this holiday gift to those who have never been, and for those who have been too often to admit. If work, the kids, or the never-ending preparations for the holiday season have somehow become too much, may you enjoy this, a return to your first time at Disney World.

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A hum from outside the right side of your car causes your to heart to skip a beat. Up to this point Disney World has only been vacation pictures belonging to someone else and commercials on TV. Suddenly a gleaming silver monorail passes on the right. You can't take your eyes off it. You laugh as you realize you have to remember you've parked in "Goofy 6", and you board your first ride: a tram to the Ticket and Transportation Center.

From the rail of the ferryboat, you see Donald Duck water skiing by, as Smee waves from the tow boat. The castle looms larger and then completely disappears! Somewhere in the distance a band is playing ragtime music. A whistle full of boyhood fantasy splits the air as a mighty red steam engine pulls into a perfect postcard setting of colors and flowers. You've already shot 16 pictures, have only three rolls of film left, and haven't even gotten into the park yet! The smile on your face is so large it actually hurts.

Welcome to Disney World and the Magic Kingdom.

Emerging from beneath the Victorian railway station your eyes and mind are not fully prepared to take in the show that has opened before you. Mouse-eared balloons glisten in the morning sun. The red pavement of Main Street USA makes the sky seem so blue you can almost touch it. Everything is even more colorful than the images that clicked away so long ago, as you sat with your eyes pasted to a heavy, black 3D Viewmaster. A street corner band is playing Dixieland. The buildings themselves seem to sing out "You're someplace special." There's a loud "ah-ooo-ga" from the horn of a passing antique motor car. The clang of the horse-drawn trolley. Another whistle from the train. Yet with all that is happening around you, your eyes, as if in a trance, are locked on what lies directly before you.

Cinderella Castle at the end of Main Street USA rises in all the glory of a storybook fantasy spun on your mother's lap as a child. You're drawn to it like a mouse to cheese. The gold leaf of its spires sparkles in the sun like Tinker Bell herself. Standing in the castle courtyard, you're at the very heart of childhood dreams. Tomorrowland is to the right, Adventureland is to the left, Fantasyland is straight ahead, and work, school, and life are one million miles behind.

As you make your way from attraction to attraction, the years seem to peel away. Your laughter is now coming from deep inside. From a place where only children laugh from.

Can there really be such a thing as the fabled Disney Magic?

You start to discover "little things". Perhaps a Cheshire cat appears grinning in the mirror of a hat shop. The Cast Member who's helping fellow guests to into ride vehicles for Snow White, points out a Hidden Mickey on the clothesline. The chimneys of the Haunted Mansion are all chess pieces. You begin to believe perhaps *this* is the most wonderful place on Earth.

Physically, your body calls for rest, but fear of not seeing it all drives you on. Your very full day ends watching fireworks explode behind the Castle, and perhaps brushing back a tear brought on by a flood of youthful memories. You linger and stroll beneath the sparkling lights of Main Street, thrilled in the knowledge that this has only been the first day.

As each morning flies by, your amazement only increases. At Epcot, Spaceship Earth looms like a planet descended onto the soil. Every now and then the background music plays a small snippet of "When You Wish upon a Star..." The pavement at night twinkles like jewels. A water fountain talks! You find yourself trying to catch an airborne water ball that's leaping like Mr. Toad from one "blop-blop" fountain to another.

As you make your way though Future World, World Showcase unfurls before you like some long-forgotten World's Fair. Independence Hall from Philadelphia and the Doges Palace from Venice are ahead across the lake. The Eiffel Tower is on the right. China is on the left. No matter where you turn is a picture waiting to be taken.

You start to think you'll have to get a second job just to develop your film.

Animal Kingdom's rope drops to the opening motif of the Lion King, sending chills down your spine. This park embraces you with its rich lushness and detail. It's incomprehensible that 10 years before none of these plants or buildings were here. After a short walk through a narrow path in the forest, the Tree of Life looms in breathtaking majesty. With each step its bark begins to yield the reason for its name. You might not have planned to stop until reaching Harambe and the Kilimanjaro Safari ride, but you find yourself calling the names of each of the tree's hand-carved animals.

In the Disney-MGM Studios you find yourself overusing the word "again." After exiting Muppets 3D: AGAIN! After falling from Tower of Terror: AGAIN! After going from zero to 60 in the blink of an eye, while the music of Aerosmith fills your ears: AGAIN! And, after Star Tours, just because you want to really enjoy the robots in the queue: AGAIN!

At the conclusion of a first trip to Walt Disney World, you're absolutely convinced Michael Eisner himself must have been in the parks the same time as you. That could be the only explanation for the brilliance of IllumiNations. The enormous variety of live performances. The extreme congeniality of the staff. The perfectly refreshing taste of a citrus swirl. How clean everything was in spite of the tens of thousands of vacationers who shared your week. How "practically perfect in every way" each day seemed.

It isn't until your second trip that you realize, Walt Disney World is like this every single day, and every single day no matter how many times you've gone, someone is there feeling all those emotions for the first time.

We as humans often forget how we felt at the "beginning" of so many things in life. How thrilled you were about getting the job you now hate. How excited you were when you first moved into the house that now drains your bank account like a silent partner. How your heart pounded, when you first held hands with the person who now leaves socks around your house.

If you can recapture all those "first time" memories in life as easily as you can grasp your first visions of a place that The Mouse calls home, both Disney World and the "real world", will never lose their magical excitement for you.


That's My2Cents. What's yours?
 

careship

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When I feel all those feelings, I certainly don't feel like Eisner is there with me, unless I see something dibiltating. What I do feel is the magic that WALT envisioned. I imagine what the parks can and will be again when someone, anyone, even if it is the M.E., brings the imagination back. The imaginations that brought us PotC, JC, HM and things of the such need to be rekindled and let loose once again in the parks. (And the company.)

I love Disney, always have, always will. I enjoy everything about it and hate the fact that the Company is in turmoil. I also feel that if the upper management had the same love for the company and its founders they would either step back and let in new imaginative blood or at least allow themselves to return to the magical place that made them want to be part of it to begin with.
 

TownSquareSteve

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Thoughts from a Cast member!!!

Grizz, you have said what most everyone who loves the disney name and takes its preservation seriously wishes they could and/or would have said. From a cast members standpoint, I look at everything that Disney has done and what Disney is currently doing and am scared with the realization that WDW might not have the same effect on my future children as it did on me. The currrent regeim does need to be let go (to put it nicely) but I also think there has been some good that Eisner and Co have actually done with the name (mind you most of it was done with the help of Frank Wells and Jeffery Katzenburg). The management of Disney needs to be replaced every 15 years or so to give fresh ideas and new insights to what Disney stands for and what Disney will continue to stand for in the future. Disney needs to start embracing its past (What would Walt do should be the battle cry) and stop worrying about $$$$. Walt said if you build a quality product people will come and offset the costs of making it (not exact qoute but he said something like that). People chose Disney over competitors because of the magic, anyone can create a ride but it takes something special to create an experience. Disney had that once, but others now seem to be catching up. Grizz, as a cast member, I support you and the ideas of Walt 100% and I hope that someday someone like you will take over the company and bring it back to what it was, I want to have the chance to share the magic with my children someday the way that my parents showed me when I was younger. General I salute you and if you ever need help in your crusade,know that there are cast members from all over the world ready to support you and Disney in anyway we can. Long live Walt and the Disney name!!!! And thanks Grizz for all your info on this site, it makes me feel better that there are people like you out there that care as much as I do.

~Steve~
 

General Grizz

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TownSquareSteve said:
Grizz, you have said what most everyone who loves the disney name and takes its preservation seriously wishes they could and/or would have said. From a cast members standpoint, I look at everything that Disney has done and what Disney is currently doing and am scared with the realization that WDW might not have the same effect on my future children as it did on me. The currrent regeim does need to be let go (to put it nicely) but I also think there has been some good that Eisner and Co have actually done with the name (mind you most of it was done with the help of Frank Wells and Jeffery Katzenburg). The management of Disney needs to be replaced every 15 years or so to give fresh ideas and new insights to what Disney stands for and what Disney will continue to stand for in the future. Disney needs to start embracing its past (What would Walt do should be the battle cry) and stop worrying about $$$$. Walt said if you build a quality product people will come and offset the costs of making it (not exact qoute but he said something like that). People chose Disney over competitors because of the magic, anyone can create a ride but it takes something special to create an experience. Disney had that once, but others now seem to be catching up. Grizz, as a cast member, I support you and the ideas of Walt 100% and I hope that someday someone like you will take over the company and bring it back to what it was, I want to have the chance to share the magic with my children someday the way that my parents showed me when I was younger. General I salute you and if you ever need help in your crusade,know that there are cast members from all over the world ready to support you and Disney in anyway we can. Long live Walt and the Disney name!!!! And thanks Grizz for all your info on this site, it makes me feel better that there are people like you out there that care as much as I do.

~Steve~
I am honored! Thanks for your passion, sir! I am glad people like you (who show deep concern about values) are working at Disney. Keep the magic and take your job with pride!
 

HennieBogan1966

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After having read some more commentary on this thread, I feel compelled to reply. I am one of the biggest fans of WDW you'd ever meet. Although I don't fanatically collect everything from A to Z Disney, it's in my smile, my attitude, the cds of park music, my pictures, and my memories. I've worked at the Disney Store, which at that time was a dream come true for me. Actually getting to work for Disney was more than I could have imagined. I love the company and WDW more now than ever.

What I would like to say though is that after my time at TDS, I learned that there is definetly an attitude that parallels what you hear about Michael Eisner, and $$$$. The merchandising of the stores reflects that with all of the plush that you will see there. As we were told during training (my wife and I; she worked at a different store here in Austin), plush is the highest margin product. Just that statement told me something about mgmt. of the company. Why you ask? Because the store mgr. had to get that from somewhere. Where you ask? The annual mgrs. meeting. We also viewed it from the new (at that time) executive in charge of the Stores worldwide. Her name escapes me at the moment. The theme of her speech was plush, plush, plush. And we were encouraged to offer plush in every case, with each guest. Not that you could miss it in the store. I say all of this to say that it seemd to me that there was no real concern for what the guests might really want, but to "steer" them to plush whenever possible. This was a big problem for me, having been in retail as long as I have been. Aside from the fact that we didn't offer enough variety of product to begin with.
In addition to that, I definetly saw and felt the "buddy buddy" thing going on with the cms at the store. I recall one inicident where we had a plush promotion on going into Christmas. The offer was for each $50 you received a free plush. (Nutcracker soldier). One of our guests came in, I was greeting and mentioned the promotion. At the time of checkout, our cashier, who had been with the store longer than I and was close to the Store Mgr., told the guest that wasn't the case. Even though we had signage all over the store that clearly mentioned the very same thing I was greeting with. Her first mistake was in telling the guest no. Her second mistake was doing this with a line full of guests to check out. Now keep in mind that I DID verify this info prior to greeting with the Asst. Store Mgr. that this was in fact the case. The Store Mgr. later approached me about this, when I confirmed to her that's what I was instructed to greet with by the Asst. She sided with her compadre and said I was wrong. Somehow, I don't think I was. Being that we had signage that said that very same thing. Let alone, to confront a guest in line, during a very busy time of year, who is about to spend over $150, and only wanted what she rightly deserved based on our promotion. This may sound like sour grapes to most of you, but what it is to me is a reflection of the lack of caring for the guests of Disney. And when I read some of the threads on this site, I read a lot of the same thing. Where there is a lack of training, cutting of payroll budgets, resulting in over-worked, underpaid, tired, and burnt-out cms. And the bean counters think they are geniuses for cutting costs. MEMO TO ALL OF YOU BEANCOUNTERS OUT THERE: YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!! It will NEVER, I repeat NEVER do your business any good to cut payroll. Short term looks good on paper, but what you don't ever seem to see is the loss of business by your having driven away good and loyal customers who will find elsewhere to shop and spend their money. Ditto on the theme parks. Aside from that, you will find yourself hiring substandard cms, cause that's all that will work the kind of hours (lack of that is) that you want, in the conditions that you ask them to work in, for the money you offer. I know, I know, you beancounters out there are saying, make the sales, then you'll get the payroll. UMMMM> WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! You can't get the sales without the payroll. I don't really care what your degree says you are, or can do. Until you've done it for real, in the real world, IT DON'T COUNT!!!!! GET IT?

So, in summary, what I am saying is that there needs to be a wholesale change of attitude with respect to the business model currently in place it Disney. You need more long term thinking, and people who TRULY care about their guests, their cms, and their work.

After all, without guests, there will be NO business.
 

General Grizz

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Gardner Scott writes this story:

Just got back from WDW and thought you'd enjoy this
little story.

I stopped by the Mission: Space area to pay my
respects to Horizons and happened to run into one of
the "suits" in charge of the design and construction
of the attraction. I asked him how much of the spirit
of Horizons will exists in Mission: Space. He
answered, with a toothy grin, "Oh, none at all. It's
a TOTALLY different ride. It's a thrill attraction
all the way. We really pulled out all the stops on
this one. It's nothing at all like Horizons."
"Oh...", says I, "that sucks."
The guy's face fell like I'd just kicked his
Grandmother and, trying sooo hard not to crack a smile
or laugh, I walked away.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

disnyfan89

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HauntedPirate said:
I agree - that is AWESOME!!!

I've been watching this thread, but haven't commented. Yet. But I am in agreement with Grizz.
I think it was a little rude! After all, they weren't trying to recreate Horizons.
 

General Grizz

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disnyfan89 said:
I think it was a little rude! After all, they weren't trying to recreate Horizons.
The Horizons spirit was that of Epcot itself - a look at progress and achieving new boundaries. To not keep this spirit in the new attractions (Test Track, JIIw/F, and, according to this designer, M:S) is a shame. Especially when the goal is $$$, and $$$ alone.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
disnyfan89 said:
I think it was a little rude! After all, they weren't trying to recreate Horizons.

Yep.... I agree... :cool: :wave:


But also... Keep in mind... that some people (certain folks... but certainly not anyone here on WDWMagic :D ) also fear change, anything "new", or that is not from 1984. :lol: :wave: :p
 

General Grizz

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DMC-12 said:
Yep.... I agree... :cool: :wave:


But also... Keep in mind... that some people (certain folks... but certainly not anyone here on WDWMagic :D ) also fear change, anything "new", or that is not from 1984. :lol: :wave: :p
Jerry, you're obviously attacking (and mistaking) me. Please don't make this thread into a personal attack.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
General Grizz said:
Jerry, you're obviously attacking (and mistaking) me. Please don't make this thread into a personal attack.


I'm not... so dont even go there... BUT... if you would like me to... that CAN be arranged... so chill!

Also... the second that I get nailed with a negative rating from you and your "clique" ... it WILL be forwarded to Steve. .. I know whats been going on in this and your other threads... As soon as someone disagrees with you or the way you see things.. they get nailed with a negative.... :mad:

So lighten up! :) :wave:
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
DMC-12 said:
Yep.... I agree... :cool: :wave:


But also... Keep in mind... that some people (certain folks... but certainly not anyone here on WDWMagic :D ) also fear change, anything "new", or that is not from 1984.
:lol:

Well...if there are "certain folks" that feel this way about somethings Disney (I'm not saying there are :lookaroun ), then perhaps Disney is at fault...Replacing WoM with Test Track...an attraction you spend more time in the queue than on the ride, and speaking of Horizons, they could've made atleast a better pavilion for M:S (you have the ride, a small post show and you better believe they would never forget the gift shop)....If Disney replaced attractions with stuff of the same value (or better)...then perhaps there wouldn't be said fear...

:p
 

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
objr said:
:lol:

Well...if there are "certain folks" that feel this way about somethings Disney (I'm not saying there are :lookaroun ), then perhaps Disney is at fault...Replacing WoM with Test Track...an attraction you spend more time in the queue than on the ride, and speaking of Horizons, they could've made atleast a better pavilion for M:S (you have the ride, a small post show and you better believe they would never forget the gift shop)....If Disney replaced attractions with stuff of the same value (or better)...then perhaps there wouldn't be said fear...

:p

Great Post! Sure I like Test Track and Mission Space, but I agree with your points.
 

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