News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Brer Oswald]

I’m not particularly attached to Pecos Bill, but turning it into a PatF New Orleans inspired restaurant awkwardly divides up Frontierland even more. Does that lead to a CBJ replacement? A Thunder Mountain retheme? A rebranding of Frontierland as a whole?

 

[Disney Analyst]

Some speculation from Mike on potential changes to Pecos Bill -

“While visiting Magic Kingdom recently, we noticed some high-profile Disney World Imagineers walking through Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn & Cafe, discussing various aspects of the quick-service location. The Imagineers spent at least 30 minutes touring the location, walking through each room, and taking notes.”

“So, what could Pecos Bill be rethemed into? Well, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure does have a heavy focus on the Tiana’s Foods concept, having installed more signs recently to elude to the backstory of the attraction. While nothing is confirmed, it’s likely that Disney will want to incorporate a culinary aspect to the new Princess and the Frog-themed attraction next door. At Disneyland, it has been confirmed that Tiana’s Palace is coming to New Orleans Square. Could we see a Tiana’s Foods location take over Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn & Cafe? Only time will tell.”

This would make the most sense. Bring the Floridians beignets and mint juleps Disney!

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I’m not particularly attached to Pecos Bill, but turning it into a PatF New Orleans inspired restaurant awkwardly divides up Frontierland even more. Does that lead to a CBJ replacement? A Thunder Mountain retheme? A rebranding of Frontierland as a whole?

It would make more sense to expand behind and around Splash for the spaces that they would probably like. (i.e. Peco's into Tianas, etc). I know the railroad is there and parade storage, so not sure what the space looks like back there

 

[Andrew C]

It would make more sense to expand behind and around Splash for the spaces that they would probably like.

Yes!

 

[Kirby86]

I’m not particularly attached to Pecos Bill, but turning it into a PatF New Orleans inspired restaurant awkwardly divides up Frontierland even more. Does that lead to a CBJ replacement? A Thunder Mountain retheme? A rebranding of Frontierland as a whole?

Honestly Magic Kingdoms retheme seems to be trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. If you retheme Pecos bill at least you can say that Tianas Bayu Adventure can be seen from in the distance. Just ignore Big Thunder Mountain.

 

[Stupido]

As a former Pecos Bill’s cast member, this news is a little bitter sweet for me. Of course I’ll always have my Pecos memories, but it’ll make me sad to not be able to visit my old haunt. However, converting this to Tiana’s Palace absolutely makes the most sense, and would do a lot to sell the retheming of Splash.

Plus as I’ve said before, currently we have two Princess Table Service restaurants that both require advance reservations that are pretty difficult to snag. Having a princess themed quick service would be really nice for all the kids whose parents weren’t able to grab ADRs.

I think this is a great idea, and hope they go ahead with it.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Big thunder mountain is going to be really out of place if they New Orleans a section of Frontierland

Big Latino Mountain coming soon ahead of coco/encanto stuff confirmed (jk)

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

Frontierland to be renamed "Grab-Bag-IPs-We-Threw-Together-But-Also-Big-Thunderland"

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Frontierland to be renamed "Grab-Bag-IPs-We-Threw-Together-But-Also-Big-Thunderland"

Don’t forget the “Soon-To-Be-Puddle-of-America-with-Parked-Riverboat”

 

[Ayla]

Wouldn't be surprised, and turn Westward Ho into a beignet stand.

Is that where they sell turkey legs or the one more towards Pirates where they used to sell McD's fries, behind Pecos Bill's?

 

[Ayla]

It would make more sense to expand behind and around Splash for the spaces that they would probably like. (i.e. Peco's into Tianas, etc). I know the railroad is there and parade storage, so not sure what the space looks like back there

Parking lots and warehouses.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Is that where they sell turkey legs or the one more towards Pirates, behind Pecos Bill's?

The one behind Pecos on your way to pirates. Maybe it’s not called Westward Ho

 

[Ayla]

The one behind Pecos on your way to pirates. Maybe it’s not called Westward Ho

I wasn't sure which one you were referring to. I didn't realize they had names. lol

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I wasn't sure which one you were referring to. I didn't realize they had names. lol

One of them is called Westward Ho lol I’m not sure which one. Them not bringing beignets and mint juleps too MK with this redo is like flushing money down the toilet

 

[MisterPenguin]

Frontierland to be renamed "Grab-Bag-IPs-We-Threw-Together-But-Also-Big-Thunderland"

That should be its name right now.

Pecos Bill and Splash are two differing Disney IPs. Under the rumored change, they'll be one Disney IP.

And Country Bears will fit because they aren't "the Frontier." They are "The South" (singing Southern songs from the 1950s).

Frontierland has regularly mixed up "the Frontier" with "the South." At the time of "the Western Frontier," the South was no longer "Frontier"... it was settled.

And across from the two Tiana New Orleans attractions is a Mississippi Riverboat. And a Mississippi Valley hang-out of Tom Sawyer.

And Diamond Horseshoe is akin to a Missouri saloon. And St. Louis was settled by the 1830s. Not much of a frontier land during the time of Mississippi steam boats.

The whole area could be called Ol' Mississippi Valley. BTMR is the one standout. It can be it's own mini-land... the new Frontierland.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

That should be its name right now.

Pecos Bill and Splash are two differing Disney IPs. Under the rumored change, they'll be one Disney IP.

And Country Bears will fit because they aren't "the Frontier." They are "The South" (singing Southern songs from the 1950s).

Frontierland has regularly mixed up "the Frontier" with "the South." At the time of "the Western Frontier," the South was no longer "Frontier"... it was settled.

And across from the two Tiana New Orleans attractions is a Mississippi Riverboat. And a Mississippi Valley hang-out of Tom Sawyer.

And Diamond Horseshoe is akin to a Missouri saloon. And St. Louis was settled by the 1830s. Not much of a frontier land during the time of Mississippi steam boats.

The whole area could be called Ol' Mississippi Valley. BTMR is the one standout. It can be it's own mini-land... the new Frontierland.

“Moving” BTMR into its own “mini land with the rumored Coco/Encanto expansion” would be in name only. They’re not going to actually move Big Thunder and it would still look even more out of place if they would go down the route of furthering a Tiana/New Orleans theme throughout Frontierland

 

[MisterPenguin]

“Moving” BTMR into its own “mini land with the rumored Coco/Encanto expansion” would be in name only. They’re not going to actually move Big Thunder and it would still look even more out of place if they would go down the route of furthering a Tiana/New Orleans theme throughout Frontierland

Time for a bunch of tall trees!!

 

[Phicinfan]

“Moving” BTMR into its own “mini land with the rumored Coco/Encanto expansion” would be in name only. They’re not going to actually move Big Thunder and it would still look even more out of place if they would go down the route of furthering a Tiana/New Orleans theme throughout Frontierland

Couple of things...
First I thought the presentation at D23 stated behind BTMR was going to be more fantasy land?
Second - I am pretty sure you could just name Frontierland - Disney over Mid-America....or Old mid-America land. Just saying...

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Couple of things...
First I thought the presentation at D23 stated behind BTMR was going to be more fantasy land?
Second - I am pretty sure you could just name Frontierland - Disney over Mid-America....or Old mid-America land. Just saying...

Disney never gave any insight aside from “beyond Big Thunder”, it would be very complicated to connect this new land to Fantasyland. They would have to circumvent Haunted Mansion/Tangled bathrooms, as well as Tom Sawyer Island. They would have to demo something around Mansion/Small World/Tangled bathrooms to connect this. And even then I think if the “gateway” to this new land was in “Fantasyland” it would be a long walkway to get to this new space. I would rather them demo/move Small World, Peter Pans Flight and the Tangled restrooms and reimagine this whole area. But I digress, this is the TBA thread.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney never gave any insight aside from “beyond Big Thunder”, it would be very complicated to connect this new land to Fantasyland. They would have to circumvent Haunted Mansion/Tangled bathrooms, as well as Tom Sawyer Island. They would have to demo something around Mansion/Small World/Tangled bathrooms to connect this. And even then I think if the “gateway” to this new land was in “Fantasyland” it would be a long walkway to get to this new space. I would rather them demo/move Small World, Peter Pans Flight and the Tangled restrooms and reimagine this whole area. But I digress, this is the TBA thread.

Retheme Haunted Mansion, Tom Sawyer Island, and BTMR to various princess and it all connects to Fantasyland!!