News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[EagleScout610]

They're using the normal refurbishment schedule to take it down for the retheme.

Which is the logical thing to do

 

[EagleScout610]

YOU are the villain, if you still have money in your wallet.

Oh hi Chapek. How's the post Disney life?

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Which makes sense when the timeframe from closure to reopening is under 2 years.

Well beyond that…. I wouldn’t know this for certain but that building was engineered around the weights and stresses of that trough. If you move that trough, you change those stresses.

Plus the most obvious point… There would be no storytelling reason that would make a trough change mandatory. If they can tell a story about catching a dinosaur and about Indiana Jones with the same ride path…

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Which makes sense when the timeframe from closure to reopening is under 2 years.

I still wonder if they'll meet the deadline. Maelstrom to Frozen took a similar amount of time, just a couple months shy of two years. Granted, Frozen did slightly extend/alter the track right before the lift (I assume Splash's track isn't being altered), which might have extended the timeline. But on the other hand, the Frozen overhaul was otherwise very lackluster and basic. They gutted all of the interior scenes and didn't really put much back in afterwards, it's a lot of minimally detailed flat walls and video projection. If Tiana is supposed to be a more impressive and physically detailed overhaul, I wonder if it'll make 2024.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I still wonder if they'll meet the deadline.

If they're not closing Disneyland's version until later in 2023, I don't expect it to be done by then.

For Florida? We'll see...

 

[Elijah Abrams]

I'm keeping fingers crossed for a mini New Orleans makeover to the area adjacent to the ride.

How about you don’t, because they might just merge Frontierland and Liberty Square into one Old America-themed area.

 

[Neaunderhill]

I think people should keep an open mind in regards to the storyline of the ride.

Especially since everyone has been begging for some non ip rides and more original concepts.

While this is based on current ip it sounds like an original story concept.

Therefore this could be considered as a middle ground between ip use and unique storytelling.

 

[gobstoper27]

Nightmare is SUPER niche. It has a dedicated core of fans but casuals aren't into it and would have no idea who "Oogie Boogie" is.

This made me chuckle as it's very true. We just did a nightmare b4 Christmas cake smash photo session for my soon to be 1 year old. Our photographer mentioned that she didn't know the the guy wearing the sack and kept calling him Boo Man. Lol

 

[Kirby86]

I think people should keep an open mind in regards to the storyline of the ride.

Especially since everyone has been begging for some non ip rides and more original concepts.

While this is based on current ip it sounds like an original story concept.

Therefore this could be considered as a middle ground between ip use and unique storytelling.

I get it however if you want to do an original attraction you have to commit to it. If you are makeing a ride using an IP that people already know you set an expectation of what people who are fans of the material want. It's the reason why Frozen in EPCOT while technically a sequel still has all the hits from the original movie.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

How about you don’t, because they might just merge Frontierland and Liberty Square into one Old America-themed area.

Disneyland's ride will mostly fit seamlessly into New Orleans Square. WDW's version is going to look VERY out of place unless there are some alterations to the immediate surroundings. WDW's Splash Mountain was modified to help it fit the Frontierland setting (scrapping the swamp setting, using red clay on the exterior, music remixed to country/bluegrass etc). This had the double benefit of also making WDW's superior to Disneyland's IMO. Tiana however isn't getting these sorts of alterations to help it fit. The Riverboat is the only thing that will look correct in the immediate area.

IMO, redoing Pecos Bill's is probably all they need to do to correct the most glaring issue with the ride's placement, being shoved in between two western environments. That restaurant is rather large and wraps around the corner reaching into Adventureland, so the coverage of this change would be both substantial yet also not really encroach on much beyond tha. No need to mess with Country Bears, that's suitably far enough away that it wouldn't clash.

 

[JoeCamel]

So "late 2024"....
Does anyone think they will open this in December - January?
There is a reason water rides have their yearly maintenance in January/February and the water parks are closed.
See you in the springtime...,..

 

[Casper Gutman]

I think people should keep an open mind in regards to the storyline of the ride.

Especially since everyone has been begging for some non ip rides and more original concepts.

While this is based on current ip it sounds like an original story concept.

Therefore this could be considered as a middle ground between ip use and unique storytelling.

An “IP Ride” doesn’t just mean a ride that reproduces the storyline of another piece of media beat by beat. It’s a ride based on IP. This isn’t a middle-ground, it is 100% an IP ride. It’s an IP ride that is being implemented half-heartedly, clumsily, and as a promo for a D+ streaming spin-off series.

 

[The Mom]

Thank you to the posters who have respected the guideline to keep the conversation based on updates to the renovation of the attraction, rather than delving into the problems surrounding the current attraction.

 

[Bocabear]

For setting it in the area all they realistically have to do is re-theme the side of Pecos Bill between Adventureland portal and the front of Pecos Bill to New Orleans style architecture, and then completely re build and re-dress the Queue courtyard for Splash to look like the French quarter...None of the "land" themes are precisely fixed in a place... Adventureland is part Polynesian and also Moroccan/ middle eastern, and that works just fine...Fantasyland is a blend of French Medieval, Bavarian, Swiss and Mediterranean ... no one complains about that... This will be fine... Hope the ride lives up to it, and they drop the Tiana's Food Co-op storyline....

 

[matt9112]

Occam's Razor.

Facilier will not be in the ride as this ride takes place after the first film.

Will Friends from the other Side still appear? Possibly.

Could they utilize Facilier's voice in some way, like coming from a portal on the other side? Maybe. Do I expect a full AA Facilier, nope. He is in the realm from which one does not physically return.

This is weak….disney doesn’t give a about continuity. There’s something else at play here. Almost any new ride I can think of throws continuity to the wind. Guardians might be the exception.

 

[EagleScout610]

So "late 2024"....
Does anyone think they will open this in December - January?
There is a reason water rides have their yearly maintenance in January/February and the water parks are closed.
See you in the springtime...,..

Part of me thinks Disney said "Late 2024" to give themselves "Well we didn't finish in 2024 so we can wiggle over to 2025" room

 

[celluloid]

This is weak….disney doesn’t give a ratsabout continuity. There’s something else at play here. Almost any new ride I can think of throws continuity to the wind. Guardians might be the exception.

Guardians also through continuity to the wind in many ways.

 

[Disstevefan1]

If feels like to me they want to drag their feet on EVERYTHING so they got something to open the same time as EPIC Universe... I can't wait for EPIC Universe to open! Its so exciting!

 

[_caleb]

Disneyland's ride will mostly fit seamlessly into New Orleans Square. WDW's version is going to look VERY out of place unless there are some alterations to the immediate surroundings. WDW's Splash Mountain was modified to help it fit the Frontierland setting (scrapping the swamp setting, using red clay on the exterior, music remixed to country/bluegrass etc). This had the double benefit of also making WDW's superior to Disneyland's IMO. Tiana however isn't getting these sorts of alterations to help it fit. The Riverboat is the only thing that will look correct in the immediate area.

IMO, redoing Pecos Bill's is probably all they need to do to correct the most glaring issue with the ride's placement, being shoved in between two western environments. That restaurant is rather large and wraps around the corner reaching into Adventureland, so the coverage of this change would be both substantial yet also not really encroach on much beyond tha. No need to mess with Country Bears, that's suitably far enough away that it wouldn't clash.

I’m not convinced the area is currently as cohesively themed as some here make it sound.

I do agree that retheming Pecos Bill’s would really help with the thematic transition, but as they’ve proved with Disneyland, they can make quick, short, two-way transitions that aren’t too jarring and still make good settings.

 

[Touchdown]

I’ll die on the hill stating this should have been a Coco retheme at WDW. Would have fit far more cohesively, and seeing as the climax of the movie has a dropping sequence, I state fairly easy to adapt. Not to mention it would have clicked all the right boxes:

-Popular and new
-Great Soundtrack
-Minority Character
-Great visuals