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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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yensidtlaw1969

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They're using the normal refurbishment schedule to take it down for the retheme.
That it happens to be closing in the same month they typically perform its annual maintenance is pretty irrelevant here. People are talking as if Splash Mountain will be recieving its regular annual maintenance this coming January, and that's absolutely not true. These posts about "scheduled maintenance" make it seem like the Splash Mountain will reopen to guests at some point, which it won't, it will become Tiana's Bayou Adventure. What they'll be doing come January 23rd is very different from "scheduled maintenance", and Splash Mountain as we know it will never be seen in Walt Disney World again.
 

GoneForGood

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Just wanted to share this. I read the blog entry and saw that the newly released artwork is intended to be the first show scene after we drop down into the showbuilding. From the image Disney shared, this may potentially involve partial if not full re-build of the sets, as if this scene is placed on the first "bend" in the attraction, there isn't any room there currently.

(The "tunnel" before the fishing pond has a CM/Emergency walk way that comes out a little, right up on the trough on the right hand side, there would be no room for it as is.)

But then I thought about it for a bit, the dock in the image looks similar to the one that the three geese are standing on a little further into the show building. The issue is, this dock is on the RIGHT hand side of the track, while in the new image it's on the left. So I went ahead and mirrored the image out of curiosity:


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The frogs in the image are situated where the bullfrogs on Splash are now. The same with the dock. If true...then I wonder why the image was revealed mirrored. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense.

Now of course, this is likely me WAY overthinking it, and Disney intends on doing a full or partial gut. Just random speculation on my part.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Concept art isn't necessarily going to accurately showcase the finalized placement of characters and setpieces. Though that is an interesting thing to note about the dock, because that does indeed look like something they could probably maintain in its proper place with your flip.

I could imagine Disneyland's Splash requiring less effort to convert since it already takes place in a dark swamp. Disney World however will need a lot more work because it doesn't share this setting. It's a bright sunny and hilly countryside with farmland and passing river. Even the tree foliage is completely different. Disneyland uses weeping willow vines along its ceiling, whereas WDW uses what appears to be maple trees. Some of the tree trunk structures could potentially be reused as well, but even those will need to be touched up to make them more swamp-appropriate. Pretty much everything on the shores, the tree foliage lining the ceiling, and the painted walls will all need to be replaced though. Perhaps this is also why WDW's variant is closing first, it will require more time to convert.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Multiple major articles cite "late" 2024 as the opening date, but I'm not seeing a source for that on any official Disney website. I wonder if it will even make the 2024 deadline. It's a pretty substantial project for something that's only supposed to take less than 2 years. Even without the excuse of a pandemic, Disney is terrible at completing major projects in a timely manner. I'm also surprised they wouldn't target more mid-year date given that it's a very wet ride (even Florida can get pretty cold in December and also parts of November).
 

DCBaker

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Multiple major articles cite "late" 2024 as the opening date, but I'm not seeing a source for that on any official Disney website. I wonder if it will even make the 2024 deadline. It's a pretty substantial project for something that's only supposed to take less than 2 years. Even without the excuse of a pandemic, Disney is terrible at completing major projects in a timely manner. I'm also surprised they wouldn't target more mid-year date given that it's a very wet ride (even Florida can get pretty cold in December and also parts of November).

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thomas998

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"Bumpy" and "Unreliable" are very different complaints.
Generally I would agree... though if you look at the cars and all the hydraulics that make the fake bumps, those complications are going to increase downtime. Everything that gets added on to any ride increase the probability of it malfunctioning and going down.
 

thomas998

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Splash Mountain is not closing for Scheduled Maintenance this coming January - it is closing permanently to begin the transformation into Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
Not sure what your point is, I was responding to someone asking why they couldn't skip scheduled maintenance on a ride. Had nothing to do with whether they are closing for a refurb or not.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Generally I would agree... though if you look at the cars and all the hydraulics that make the fake bumps, those complications are going to increase downtime. Everything that gets added on to any ride increase the probability of it malfunctioning and going down.
You seem to have gotten away from your own point here . . .
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Not sure what your point is, I was responding to someone asking why they couldn't skip scheduled maintenance on a ride. Had nothing to do with whether they are closing for a refurb or not.
The point is that in the specific case that poster was referring to (Splash Mountain) there is no scheduled maintenance on the calendar, so introducing that hypothetical in this situation is confusing and unneccessary. I responded both to you and to that original poster clarifying that "scheduled maintenance" is no longer a thing in the case of WDW's Splash Mountain.
 

IronRod

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Just wanted to share this. I read the blog entry and saw that the newly released artwork is intended to be the first show scene after we drop down into the showbuilding. From the image Disney shared, this may potentially involve partial if not full re-build of the sets, as if this scene is placed on the first "bend" in the attraction, there isn't any room there currently.

(The "tunnel" before the fishing pond has a CM/Emergency walk way that comes out a little, right up on the trough on the right hand side, there would be no room for it as is.)

But then I thought about it for a bit, the dock in the image looks similar to the one that the three geese are standing on a little further into the show building. The issue is, this dock is on the RIGHT hand side of the track, while in the new image it's on the left. So I went ahead and mirrored the image out of curiosity:


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The frogs in the image are situated where the bullfrogs on Splash are now. The same with the dock. If true...then I wonder why the image was revealed mirrored. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense.

Now of course, this is likely me WAY overthinking it, and Disney intends on doing a full or partial gut. Just random speculation on my part.
What you said makes complete sense. I think you’re 100% right. I was trying to understand where that scene was occurring. I was thinking maybe it was right as you go inside, but that angle wouldn’t give you enough time to appreciate the animatronics.
 

Buried20KLeague

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Just wanted to share this. I read the blog entry and saw that the newly released artwork is intended to be the first show scene after we drop down into the showbuilding. From the image Disney shared, this may potentially involve partial if not full re-build of the sets, as if this scene is placed on the first "bend" in the attraction, there isn't any room there currently.

(The "tunnel" before the fishing pond has a CM/Emergency walk way that comes out a little, right up on the trough on the right hand side, there would be no room for it as is.)

But then I thought about it for a bit, the dock in the image looks similar to the one that the three geese are standing on a little further into the show building. The issue is, this dock is on the RIGHT hand side of the track, while in the new image it's on the left. So I went ahead and mirrored the image out of curiosity:


View attachment 683331
The frogs in the image are situated where the bullfrogs on Splash are now. The same with the dock. If true...then I wonder why the image was revealed mirrored. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense.

Now of course, this is likely me WAY overthinking it, and Disney intends on doing a full or partial gut. Just random speculation on my part.

This will be correct. I thought the same thing when I saw that dock and where it’s positioned in that scene.

No chance…. Absolutely no chance…. Are they doing anything with the trough.

They’re not gonna move that DOCK, let alone the trough. Lol. This is a redressing of the ride and nothing more.
 
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