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hpyhnt 1000

hpyhnt 1000

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marni1971 said:
Oh indeed. I only threw that in to appease the stroller brigade. It served it's purpose at WDSP but looks tacky and plastic and out of place in HKDL. As it would at DHA.

Maters Junkyard and the new LPS Flying Tyres replacement would be far more preferable. I'd even stretch to a spinner too if it sealed the deal. They can all be stuck in the new expansion area towards World Drive.
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DHA? Could I take that as confirmation that the new name for (as a certain Spirit would say) TPFKaTDMGMS is Disney('s) Hollywood Adventure?
 
GeneralKnowledge

GeneralKnowledge

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marni1971 said:
It's quite a horrendous deal compared to what was on offer.

TSMM has daft lines due to a) not being designed for Fastpass let alone MagicalBands and b) the fact there is little else on offer for the demographic it attracts.

Imagine if a fun, family friendly hybrid dark ride coaster was built next door. It would be even better if the plans for it were sat on a shelf ready to begin work at a moments notice.
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I agree, I'm just being realistic. We can hope for great things like the MI Coaster, but we all know that it's incredibly unlikely.
 
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ar81

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englanddg said:
HS has 16 attractions, 4 if which are rides.

DCA has 34 attractions, 21 of which are rides.

Yeah...that's why.
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Just out of curiousity, does anyone know how many attractions or we could say rides only wdw has vs. Dl? You would think since WDW has twice as many parks they would have twice as many rides.
 
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ar81

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gooftroop5 said:
This is a great visual that compares all the Disney parks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/06/disney-parks_n_4537100.html



According to this WDW has 129 attractions and DL has 52.
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That's interesting 129??? Seems awfully high unless they are counting parades, shows, etc.. Well I am sure they were counting the water parks and I wasnt considering them. When people do the ultimate challenge or whatever it is called, its less than 50 rides. Kind of sad when that involves 4 parks and it includes things like the trolley ride. Anyways, thanks for posting the article. Interesting read.
 
Mike S

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ar81 said:
That's interesting 129??? Seems awfully high unless they are counting parades, shows, etc.. Well I am sure they were counting the water parks and I wasnt considering them. When people do the ultimate challenge or whatever it is called, its less than 50 rides. Kind of sad when that involves 4 parks and it includes things like the trolley ride. Anyways, thanks for posting the article. Interesting read.
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52 attractions for DLR is also way too low. Just counting rides DL has 36 and DCA has 21 for a total of 57. Using the maps from DL from my trip in total attractions DL has 63 and DCA has 37 for a total of 100. The article is way off.
 
sponono88

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Here's a ride count posted by @TP2000 a while back. They are 2012 numbers but no significant rides have really been added since then, so it is still pretty accurate

TP2000 said:
Agreed. But it's not just one E Ticket needed at each of the parks. The Magic Kingdom and Epcot both need at least a half dozen more rides each, with several of them being E Tickets. And DAK and DHS both need a dozen more rides each, with a few E Tickets each!

A dozen more rides per park, if they really want this MagicBand FP+ thing to work with the annual attendance the WDW property pulls in each year.

Disneyland Resort 2012 Combined 2-Park Attendance - 24 Million
Disneyland Park - 46 Attractions, 36 are Rides, 11 are E Tickets
Disney California Adventure - 31 Attractions, 21 are Rides, 5 are E Tickets
Anaheim Property Total - 77 Attractions, 57 are Rides, 16 are E Tickets

Walt Disney World Resort 2012 Combined 4-Park Attendance - 48.5 Million
Magic Kingdom Park - 34 Attractions, 25 are Rides, 7 are E Tickets
EPCOT - 23 Attractions, 8 are Rides, 4 are E Tickets
Disney's Hollywood Studios - 15 Attractions, 6 are Rides, 3 are E Tickets
Disney's Animal Kingdom - 13 Attractions, 7 are Rides, 4 are E Tickets
Orlando Property Total - 85 Attractions, 46 are Rides, 18 are E Tickets

Anyone who has ever spent more than 3 days at WDW could have told you that WDW needs more rides for MagicBand FP+ to work. But it's increasingly obvious that the people who approved MagicBand FP+ in Burbank have never actually spent time in the WDW theme parks as a paying customer. That's just very bad executive management, nothing more. Burbank bosses quite clearly don't know the theme park business very well.
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George

George

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hpyhnt 1000 said:
DHA? Could I take that as confirmation that the new name for (as a certain Spirit would say) TPFKaTDMGMS is Disney('s) Hollywood Adventure?
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Man, I've been hinting at this for a while - http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...ns-thoughts-tres.865891/page-161#post-5553037

Unfortunately they don't have the cajones to go completely hog wild and completely capitalize on confusion with Islands of Adventure with my trickier name (which is the main reason they were rumored to be adding a Hairy Potter area).
 
Funmeister

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George said:
Man, I've been hinting at this for a while - http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...ns-thoughts-tres.865891/page-161#post-5553037

Unfortunately they don't have the cajones to go completely hog wild and completely capitalize on confusion with Islands of Adventure with my trickier name (which is the main reason they were rumored to be adding a Hairy Potter area).
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I think it is about time we nominate and induct George into some sort of WDWMagic something-rather giving him a unique title that is well deserved. Party on Wayne!
 
RSoxNo1

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Mouse_Trap said:
If DHS had 10 other great attractions, then the majority of people would just decide to play TSMM on their Wii when they got home (sat on a swivel chair to mimic the spinning effect).

The reason it's so popular is because there is so little else to do, even less it you have younger kids i.e. putting R&RC and ToT out of the equation.
Add plenty more rides and problem solved.

Exactly the same can be said for the Cinema180 (sorry Soarin') expansion over at Epcot.

Building another track is just a complete waste of space in the park and does nothing in attract more people. Let's hope Disney does the right thing and actually is building a new attraction in HS to make up for everything already shuttered right now. Even an indoor version of barnstormer right now would be a better additions then TSMM3.
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Toy Story Mania is a solid D ticket attraction, you're simplifying what it is. It was also an underbuilt attraction relative to it's popularity. The third track solves that issue. Adding attractions to the park would not accomplish this as well as simply adding capacity to the attraction.

Having said that, the greater issue in that park is that it's 25 years old and only has 5 rides. It needs more rides in addition to the third Toy Story track.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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marni1971 said:
It's quite a horrendous deal compared to what was on offer.

TSMM has daft lines due to a) not being designed for Fastpass let alone MagicalBands and b) the fact there is little else on offer for the demographic it attracts.

Imagine if a fun, family friendly hybrid dark ride coaster was built next door. It would be even better if the plans for it were sat on a shelf ready to begin work at a moments notice.
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If it was just the Monster's Inc Door Coaster that wouldn't have solved the Toy Story Fastpass problem. In all likelihood, it would have just shifted it to the new ride.

The park is underbuilt, just like Toy Story Mania's capacity. Both need to be addressed.

Disney can't build a D or an E-ticket attraction in Disney World with an hourly capacity of less than 1400 guests per hour. Otherwise they're going to have problems.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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marni1971 said:
How painful is that the MI Coaster and Rat in an expanded Pixarland would help so much for comparatively little outlay in the parks key issues of appeal, branding, theme and capacity?

Even add in Cinemagique into Superstar or Sound theatre if the rights issues could be sorted out and so much could be achieved for little or no R&D and little new construction.

Shove a TS Playland behind MI and you've made a huge improvement even before adding stuff from a Galaxy far far away behind Indy.

So much for so little. Much like Epcot could be.
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It looks like Frozen Sing a Long is going to be a permanent show in Superstar Theater. I'm totally on board with this. Despite how quickly it came together, it's an enjoyable show. But the fact of the matter is, the park needs rides. The overhaul should have been done during the MGM to DHS change. Then again immediately after Harry Potter opened. The fact that the park isn't in a DCA redux level of construction walls right now is embarassing.
 

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