Figment632
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In peak season it is terrible 45 minutes waiting for a bus at MK, I don't call that good. Or 56 minutes waiting for a bus at BB, the only time it seemed right was New Years last year when they brought tons of extra busses in.
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RnR testing queue-less system that Dumbo's going to use
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In peak season it is terrible 45 minutes waiting for a bus at MK, I don't call that good. Or 56 minutes waiting for a bus at BB, the only time it seemed right was New Years last year when they brought tons of extra busses in.
DisneyMusician2
Well-Known Member
With respect, it may not all be games. I'm imagining roving characters, small shows, games. A variety of different activities would be necessary.
In any case, it would be infinitely better than the Dumbo queue experience is now with small kids in tow.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
We now go live over to Servo for commentary, Servo?
Thank you Tom, well let me just say this was a surprise, didn't see this comin'! First of all, great choice of testing attraction. Went right to the top tier of busy attractions instead of like, Countdown, or something smaller like that. When it comes to really out-there systems like this, I vote for trying to Run before you can walk.
Also, before I say what I think, it's stupid to hear whining about this. This is awesome. The fact that Disney's even willing to test carzy--stuff like this is great, even if it doesn't work. Nice to see the effort. Now, on to what I think of ShadowFastpass.
So, as-is? No go. This system just can't be practaclly applied on exsisting attractions. You can't "shove" this in to attractions like Fastpass, it just doesn't work. They chose the best attraction to try and do that in, there's lots of room for both waiting area and thematic room to provide entertainment. But as soon as you venture away from the Gravity Building, it gets impossible. I mean, where do guests wait for Expedition Everest, and how on earth can that include plasma screen TV's informing the waiting area? It just doesn't work.
NOW, having said that, this is a great tool for the future. Looking ahead, if you were to commit and design attractions like this from the ground up? AMAZING possibilties. Just think about say, Everest again, and having an even more GIANT township to explore? More buildings, more stories, even food stands and entertainers. The only way for this to really work is for it be MASSIVE and built from the GROUND UP.
Considering that, the mind wanders thinking of how amazing one could make a waiting area. Fantastic, really.
But alas, while that is amazing, it also means money. Far more than a regular Fastpass/Standby line. AND even with an entire LAND serving as a waiting area, there's still guest issues on arriving late and wandering off. Plus clashes with Fastpass. I think it's just too late for this system. Too much, too late basicaly.
I do think this will work excellently for Dumbo.
So to sum up- Great Idea, Impossible to be used everywhere, Excellent tool for the future if you are willing to commit to going overboard with the budget.
Oh, and no whining.
Thank you Tom, well let me just say this was a surprise, didn't see this comin'! First of all, great choice of testing attraction. Went right to the top tier of busy attractions instead of like, Countdown, or something smaller like that. When it comes to really out-there systems like this, I vote for trying to Run before you can walk.
Also, before I say what I think, it's stupid to hear whining about this. This is awesome. The fact that Disney's even willing to test carzy--stuff like this is great, even if it doesn't work. Nice to see the effort. Now, on to what I think of ShadowFastpass.
So, as-is? No go. This system just can't be practaclly applied on exsisting attractions. You can't "shove" this in to attractions like Fastpass, it just doesn't work. They chose the best attraction to try and do that in, there's lots of room for both waiting area and thematic room to provide entertainment. But as soon as you venture away from the Gravity Building, it gets impossible. I mean, where do guests wait for Expedition Everest, and how on earth can that include plasma screen TV's informing the waiting area? It just doesn't work.
NOW, having said that, this is a great tool for the future. Looking ahead, if you were to commit and design attractions like this from the ground up? AMAZING possibilties. Just think about say, Everest again, and having an even more GIANT township to explore? More buildings, more stories, even food stands and entertainers. The only way for this to really work is for it be MASSIVE and built from the GROUND UP.
Considering that, the mind wanders thinking of how amazing one could make a waiting area. Fantastic, really.
But alas, while that is amazing, it also means money. Far more than a regular Fastpass/Standby line. AND even with an entire LAND serving as a waiting area, there's still guest issues on arriving late and wandering off. Plus clashes with Fastpass. I think it's just too late for this system. Too much, too late basicaly.
I do think this will work excellently for Dumbo.
So to sum up- Great Idea, Impossible to be used everywhere, Excellent tool for the future if you are willing to commit to going overboard with the budget.
Oh, and no whining.
NX2I85
Active Member
Thanks! Good news. You'd think after reading the thread I could have gleaned that, but somehow missed it.
SirGoofy
Member
I agree with this. It would be great for new rides. Existing ones, not so much.
T-1MILLION
New Member
You totally get my point.
Yeah, with Dumbo I felt this had more of a purpose..or possibly because the Circus could act almost as a grouping Preshow with numbered feathers or something and then while being entertained by neat circus atmosphere and characters in the large tent area you will eventually have your feather called. "Next up Feather group number five in the left ring of the show!" and you proceed to go fly with dumbo in the 'second ring'
but language barriors and everything else. This could be a big mess.
Thurp
Member
This is all I need to see: http://www.studioscentral.com/sites/default/files/images/31_0.JPG
If it were a plaza well designed, for this purpose, with PLENTY of sitting room, shade, and appropriate entertainment (the picture above is not what I would consider appropriate entertainment, nor Disney quality) then maybe.
But what is going on at RnR right now is a travesty and an embarrassment.
If it were a plaza well designed, for this purpose, with PLENTY of sitting room, shade, and appropriate entertainment (the picture above is not what I would consider appropriate entertainment, nor Disney quality) then maybe.
But what is going on at RnR right now is a travesty and an embarrassment.
I was never under the impression that this was going to be used all the time, or even used with RnR again more than a day or two. It's a test to see what people think and what to do to improve upon it.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
"Smith party 'a four, you can wait 'n line now!"
Doesn't sound like much fun for this kin of attraction. Will probably work better for Dumbo and new rides built from scratch like Servo said.
Can you still just walk into the single rider line with this going on, and how long will the trial last?
Doesn't sound like much fun for this kin of attraction. Will probably work better for Dumbo and new rides built from scratch like Servo said.
Can you still just walk into the single rider line with this going on, and how long will the trial last?
SirGoofy
Member
I know.:wave:
Ok good, from what I've read it seems like people thing this is going to be the new queuing system for RnR. :lol:
Exprcoofto
New Member
Excellent post! This system seems interesting, and I'm happy to see Disney testing things like this. Now while this may not fit the theme.... what about having something that vibrates/beeps like they do at many restaurants? Would that get the peoples attention more then a flashy sign saying B4? A lot of room for Disney to expand, and like you said, could work well on future attractions if the money is spent doing it right.
girzim96
New Member
I like the idea and I think it would work great on Dumbo but not for this ride. Even if they are only testing on RnR, It just won't run smoothly,unless they rebuild the whole area like EpcotServo said. What happens at opening? Will people run towards the ride and there will be a huge mob fighting over queueless cards? It makes me wonder.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
Why? It's not like any parents have ever gotten into a fight in line or something.......oh wait....
protiius
Member
hmmm...you make a convincing point. i suppose we should be pleased that they're trying to do something innovative (even if it is just to get us to spend more money :wave
...i still think it's over complicating a normally simple procedure but i've occasionally been known to complain about queing in the past so anything that can be done to make waiting easier is fine in my book...
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
So true, but I hope thats not the case. It would be better if they had a beeper in the card they give you like they have at some restuarants. I know I wouldnt want to have to wait in the courtyard and I wouldnt regardless. And I hope it doesnt screw up the ToT line.
dxwwf3
Well-Known Member
Personally, I guess I'm odd and I would rather wait in a well themed queue and have suspense build toward riding. I think there are certain situations where something like this could work (Dumbo being a perfect example), but for the big headliners, I would hope that detailed queues are still the way they choose to go.
SirGoofy
Member
I agree, but I feel like people like us are weird.:lol:
Mad Stitch
Well-Known Member
I disagree. IF this concept actually works it could be rolled out to existing attractions. Using your Expedition Everest example, the area where the stand by line currently is would not be needed so remove the existing queue line rails so that becomes the new “holding” area. At the point you would have entered the former stand by line you are given your group boarding pass, then you are free to wander in the stand by rooms looking at the displays until your group is called.