RnR testing queue-less system that Dumbo's going to use

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
This seems a little too complicated for the average guest. At first glance, I thought it seemed like a very good idea. After mulling it over for a little while, I can see that there are just going to be way to many issues.

Just imagine one of those South American tour groups descending upon RnR now. I can not even begin to imagine the nightmare that would cause.

The issue of losing guests from groups is also a big problem. I am sure Disney has considered that, and is overbooking each group, which in turn will create a log jam when, inevitably, a couple totally full groups in a row show up. It is going to cause headaches for CMs and guests alike.

Maybe it will be better then what we are seeing though.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
This seems a little too complicated for the average guest. At first glance, I thought it seemed like a very good idea. After mulling it over for a little while, I can see that there are just going to be way to many issues.

Just imagine one of those South American tour groups descending upon RnR now. I can not even begin to imagine the nightmare that would cause.

The issue of losing guests from groups is also a big problem. I am sure Disney has considered that, and is overbooking each group, which in turn will create a log jam when, inevitably, a couple totally full groups in a row show up. It is going to cause headaches for CMs and guests alike.

Maybe it will be better then what we are seeing though.

Remember, this is just a test. Very possible that it'll end today and they'll make adjustments to it, possibly reuse it at another location, tweak it some more, etc.
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Which is sad. :(:lookaroun

Why is that sad?

Why should guests have to pay more attention?

Seems like a very pushy way to make people wait.

Puts a bitter taste in my mouth, but not as bitter as your high horse attitude about how the simple leisure of waiting in line could cause stress and even more anxiety over the line waiting experience.

Yeah, nobody likes lines, but this seems like a generator for more friction than it solves.

I vote BOO!!!
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Oh, and Guitar Hero???

Get yourself a nice Pocket Simon. Much more entertaining than pressing a button at the right time. Pretty soon Innoventions will be all Guitar Hero and there will be no reason to have even gone on vacation.
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Well we were talking more in general. As a matter of courtesy, guests should pay attention to the CMs in the park that are just doing what they're told.

For safety yes, but for courtesy, CMs are more the problem with their egos a large part of the time. Which makes it sad that WDW ends up being much more like Universal, and sometimes as bad as Sea World, where the HS kids respect diddley squat.
 

SirGoofy

Member
For safety yes, but for courtesy, CMs are more the problem with their egos a large part of the time. Which makes it sad that WDW ends up being much more like Universal, and sometimes as bad as Sea World, where the HS kids respect diddley squat.

Wow, there's just so much wrong with this post. I'm not even getting into it.

If you really think like that, I think you should stop going to Orlando's theme parks all together.
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Wow, there's just so much wrong with this post. I'm not even getting into it.

If you really think like that, I think you should stop going to Orlando's theme parks all together.

Clearly not as much as I see wrong with yours. I would definatly put your ego ahead of the mentioned CMs. And also, ease up on being a control freak.
 

Mad Stitch

Well-Known Member
I don’t see how this is any different then fast pass. If I received a group that wasn’t going to be called for 45 min. I’d be leaving the area for ToT. Are they going to give out group passes for time slots throughout the whole day as the attendance level demands it? If that is the case then if you don’t get to your pass early in the day you could be shut out of the ride if all the group passes are given away.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Clearly not as much as I see wrong with yours. I would definatly put your ego ahead of the mentioned CMs. And also, ease up on being a control freak.

Hey now! Leave my ego out of this! What did he ever do to you!:D

And please don't comment on the quality of my work unless you've seen me in the park.:wave:

Uni's and Seaworld's TMs are terrific, as are the majority of Disney's.
 

CoasterKing

Member
How does this work exactly?? Do you find a machine that has tickets and then get your ticket that will have say "B6" on it and then wait to be called?? Or will there be a CM there passing them out, as Mission Space does??

CoasterKing :king:
 

Skyway

Well-Known Member
I've got faith this could work.

Everybody has been to a deli or a bakery. Same thing. Watch the digital counter. If your number is far away, you can relax. As it gets closer, you'll know your number is coming soon, and you'll pay attention to the sign more closely. If you can't figure that out or miss your slot, you don't deserve a sandwich, or a cookie, or a ride.

I assume you are "trapped" in the standby area (just as you are if you stand in line).

Such a setup is certainly more attractive if you have access to shade, seats, bathrooms, entertainment, and maybe food. (If, however, it's more comfortable being huddled shoulder-to-shoulder with ripe-smelling tourists dripping armpit sweat on your shoes, then this idea might suck after all)

If you are allowed to leave the standby area, it certainly broadens your options. (If you know you're facing a 45 minute wait, you could run to a nearb store or restaurant). However, this scenario now becomes a variation of FastPass, with the only difference being a 5 minute, non-specifc return window, versus a 1-hour (or more) window with a guaranteed timestamp.
 

SirGoofy

Member
If you are allowed to leave the standby area, it certainly broadens your options. (If you know you're facing a 45 minute wait, you could run to a nearb store or restaurant). However, this scenario now becomes a variation of FastPass, with the only difference being a 5 minute, non-specifc return window, versus a 1-hour (or more) window with a guaranteed timestamp.

If you can leave, I think it's a great idea, but at the same time, I don't see how that would be any different than Fastpass. It'll be interesting to see this in a few weeks. If it's still around then, that is.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
For a normal ride, I can't see this working very well. BUT for a ride that is predominantly aimed at kids, I.E. Dumbo, it could be a smart move. I don't think that a DJ and other low end entertainment is the way to keep the kids entertained, but imagine how much happier little Johnny is if he can play on the playground for 45 minutes instead of waiting in Dumbo. I agree it is awfully similar to fastpass, but it still forces you to hang out in a particular area instead of wandering around the whole park only to return later. But as a PP said, what happens when people leave. Assuming this and then giving out more standby than will actually fit works until everyone shows up. And whats next, Disney tells me what ride I can do when? And plots my whole day out for me? No Susie, you can't go to the bathroom, Disney says we need to be at IASW in 5 minutes to ride.....
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
It's an interesting trial, but I just feel it's getting way to complicated. I can see lots of people getting distracted, then missing their slot.
People have a hard time udnerstanding FP, nevermind now having this kind of system for standby.

I'll feel bad for the CMs who have to deal with people that miss their appointed time. Of course they yell loud enough I'm sure the CMs will escort them to the front of the line.

I also think this means the ToT queue will have more people in it if there's assigned return times for RnRC......
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
Wow... the tin hat brigade is having a field day with this one...
IMHO, it's a great idea. It'll take some getting used to, and will certainly have an adjustment period where things are running less-than-perfectly, but I think it will really pay off when its implemented at the new FL with minimal issues.
In that case, instead of sticking this system into a pre-existing ride, it's going to be in an area designed to use the system as well as possible.
So, yes, it will suck for a bit, but in the long run I think it will pay off.
 

Mad Stitch

Well-Known Member
I assume you are "trapped" in the standby area (just as you are if you stand in line).

Such a setup is certainly more attractive if you have access to shade, seats, bathrooms, entertainment, and maybe food. (If, however, it's more comfortable being huddled shoulder-to-shoulder with ripe-smelling tourists dripping armpit sweat on your shoes, then this idea might suck after all)

Ok, that makes more sense. So rather then standing in a formal queue line you’re corralled in a closed off area. In that case if you leave the designated area I would assume you loose your group pass just like you would loose your place in the queue line. Then if you go back to the attraction you would have to go to the end of the line/get a new group pass. I like it.
 

MAF

Well-Known Member
Sorry but I think I will prefer to do it the old fashioned way. You know, getting into an actual line...:shrug: This seems like a flop of an idea to me.
 

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