BrianLo
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It also does not mean it would not appear in some form in another park. (In fact, the considered IP could work well as an "Adventure".)
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Sly.
It also does not mean it would not appear in some form in another park. (In fact, the considered IP could work well as an "Adventure".)
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So We have Disney's Hollywood Adventure and MK as likely destinations for this attraction.Sly.![]()
Honestly, it's MK that could have benefitted most from something like the third TSMM track or third Soarin theater to boost capacity, with the other parks benefited more from adding rides. Too bad there isn't really any good attraction in MK to do something like that with.The problem with adding any new rides to MK is capacity. You add a new ride, and even more people will want to go there. Everyone complains about how crowded the hub and Main Street are - now add a new ride and it will be even more crowded. I agree that major overhauls park-wide would be awesome, and it's already started to happen.
If the concept is still a "western/frontier" type idea, it's hard to see what IP would fit -- The Lone Ranger could, but with that movie failing so badly, I don't see them using it. Some sort of version Woody's Roundup from Toy Story could be used but doesn't really fit with the general vibe of WRE; guess I wouldn't put that past Disney though.
Now, if they were to use concepts from WRE but morph it into a different setting, then maybe something like Indiana Jones could work. If it is in 1940's American west and located in DHS, then something like that could work thematically. It is harder for me to see how you could adapt that stuff for Adventureland and keep a tropical vibe of the land, though I'd be interested in seeing how that might be executed.
That said, I'd prefer to see Frontierland get a calmer high capacity family ride (which the classic WRE concept would fit well) with Adventureland getting a thrill ride (Fire Mountain, Journey to the Center of the Earth, or an IJ ride similar to DL/TDS). That would balance out offerings around the park.
The problem with adding any new rides to MK is capacity. You add a new ride, and even more people will want to go there. Everyone complains about how crowded the hub and Main Street are - now add a new ride and it will be even more crowded. I agree that major overhauls park-wide would be awesome, and it's already started to happen.
And exactly where are you going to put all those people during parades and Wishes????? It's already wall-to-wall people at those times.I think as long as the other parks are getting significant additions -- especially ones that get more attention, as I would expect Star Wars to get, for example -- then it makes sense to add some attractions to MK as well. MK suffers from crowding and the only way to maintain the attendance while dealing with that is to increase capacity. There's unused spaces in MK that could hold new rides which would benefit everyone who goes there. MK probably would benefit more from C- and D-tickets will high capacity than from an E-ticket, just for the sake of spreading crowds around.
I do think MK could use another E-ticket as well, which would provide more flexibility to shut down other headliners for regular maintenance. DL really benefits from having a similar lineup but also having Indiana Jones, Star Tours and the Matterhorn -- you could consider 7DMT as a surrogate for the Matterhorn perhaps, but the point remains that there is less impact from shutting down a headliner at DL due to having more such rides; this difference will be exacerbated once Star Wars opens there.
Basically, if you want to visit Disneyland, go before Star Wars opens or three years after it opens. I'd love to go, but I'm probably going to choose the latter considering my trip plans.And exactly where are you going to put all those people during parades and Wishes????? It's already wall-to-wall people at those times.
It is a tricky thing. The situation that @LuvtheGoof is describing is called induced demand.I think as long as the other parks are getting significant additions -- especially ones that get more attention, as I would expect Star Wars to get, for example -- then it makes sense to add some attractions to MK as well. MK suffers from crowding and the only way to maintain the attendance while dealing with that is to increase capacity. There's unused spaces in MK that could hold new rides which would benefit everyone who goes there. MK probably would benefit more from C- and D-tickets will high capacity than from an E-ticket, just for the sake of spreading crowds around.
I do think MK could use another E-ticket as well, which would provide more flexibility to shut down other headliners for regular maintenance. DL really benefits from having a similar lineup but also having Indiana Jones, Star Tours and the Matterhorn -- you could consider 7DMT as a surrogate for the Matterhorn perhaps, but the point remains that there is less impact from shutting down a headliner at DL due to having more such rides; this difference will be exacerbated once Star Wars opens there.
Not sure why you replied to me with this??Basically, if you want to visit Disneyland, go before Star Wars opens or three years after it opens. I'd love to go, but I'm probably going to choose the latter considering my trip plans.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Star Wars in Disneyland causing congestion. My badNot sure why you replied to me with this??![]()
Nope, congestion at MK. No problem!Sorry, I thought you were talking about Star Wars in Disneyland causing congestion. My bad![]()
Maybe they should try adding something WITHOUT taking something else awayThe problem with adding any new rides to MK is capacity. You add a new ride, and even more people will want to go there. Everyone complains about how crowded the hub and Main Street are - now add a new ride and it will be even more crowded. I agree that major overhauls park-wide would be awesome, and it's already started to happen.
And again - where all the those people going to go during parades and Wishes???? If you add more popular rides, there will be more people that go to the park. It isn't about spreading the crowds out to different areas - it's about where they go when they all converge on the castle and Main Street - not to mention when they all leave the park in the evening. Nightmare.Maybe they should try adding something WITHOUT taking something else away
And again - where all the those people going to go during parades and Wishes???? If you add more popular rides, there will be more people that go to the park. It isn't about spreading the crowds out to different areas - it's about where they go when they all converge on the castle and Main Street - not to mention when they all leave the park in the evening. Nightmare.
Muppet Show in Liberty Square.Maybe they should try adding something WITHOUT taking something else away
Sorry, but the idea of no Wishes will never fly. And what difference would making it every other night be? Those nights would be nuts then, so what does that help? Now I will say that if they were to add another "Main Street" where the bypass is now, that would help a lot.Nightmare...yes, if not done correctly.
Don't have the parade and Wishes close up the park every night. Leave the park open an additional hour after the fireworks (not just Main Street's shops) and the "just waiting around for the fireworks" crowd can leave...and then the hardcore group can stick around.
By saying they shouldn't add any big draw attractions to the Magic Kingdom, it seems like you think it's a "complete park" and should be left as is. Theme parks need to stay fresh and there hasn't been a major E-Ticket added to the Magic Kingdom in a long time.
They should, just not right now. Right now they need to improve the other three parks to draw crowds from MK along side of adding capacity to the existing attractions and increasing the draw to attractions that are less popular.Nightmare...yes, if not done correctly.
Don't have the parade and Wishes close up the park every night. Leave the park open an additional hour after the fireworks (not just Main Street's shops) and the "just waiting around for the fireworks" crowd can leave...and then the hardcore group can stick around.
By saying they shouldn't add any big draw attractions to the Magic Kingdom, it seems like you think it's a "complete park" and should be left as is. Theme parks need to stay fresh and there hasn't been a major E-Ticket added to the Magic Kingdom in a long time.
^^^^This. Exactly.They should, just not right now. Right now they need to improve the other three parks to draw crowds from MK along side of adding capacity to the existing attractions and increasing the draw to attractions that are less popular.
Sorry, but the idea of no Wishes will never fly. And what difference would making it every other night be? Those nights would be nuts then, so what does that help? Now I will say that if they were to add another "Main Street" where the bypass is now, that would help a lot.
We never leave with the nuts crowd after Wishes. Always stroll around a bit and let the crazy people go first.
No, I'm not saying that it's a "complete" park and that they shouldn't add anything ever. If they fix the evening parade and fireworks crowd issues first, then add away. And what do you consider an "E" ticket to be?? Please remember that IASW was an "E" ticket according to Walt - so why wouldn't either the Mine Train or Journey of the Little Mermaid be considered "E" tickets by that standard?
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