Possible Frontierland expansion

WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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Master Yoda said:
They should, just not right now. Right now they need to improve the other three parks to draw crowds from MK along side of adding capacity to the existing attractions and increasing the draw to attractions that are less popular.
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This I completely agree with. The other areas of the resort need more attention!
 
LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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WDWFREAK53 said:
I didn't mean not have Wishes every night...I meant to not have it be the "last thing" each night. It would be similar to the "2 parade" nights...where the initial group would leave after Wishes...and then the second group (albeit smaller) would stick around and do some more attractions before leaving. As it is now, the only reason to "stick around" is to shop.
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That might help a bit, but there are already some days that it isn't right at closing. I just agree with @Master Yoda that the other parks need a lot more love right now.

WDWFREAK53 said:
Oh I completely understand that IASW is considered an E-ticket... In today's day and age, if they went back to the ticketed rides, IASW would most likely not be considered an "E".
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Not considered by whom? A bunch of armchair imagineers on the internet? Please. And why not? Because it isn't a "thrill" ride?
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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the.dreamfinder said:
We'll have to see how things go with this latest rumor, but unless Bob Weis can bring back someone like Tony Baxter or Tim Delaney to lead WRE, WDI does not have the ability to fully realize the work of Master Imagineer Marc Davis.
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Probably because today's Imagineer has to think about multi-platforms, brands, and creating merchandising possibilities instead of focusing on creating new, imaginative, innovative experiences for park guests.
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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LuvtheGoof said:
That might help a bit, but there are already some days that it isn't right at closing. I just agree with @Master Yoda that the other parks need a lot more love right now.


Not considered by whom? A bunch of armchair imagineers on the internet? Please. And why not? Because it isn't a "thrill" ride?
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Well, the tickets were priced differently. Do you think Disney could charge the same price to ride IASW as they do Splash Mountain? Soarin? Kilimanjaro Safaris? Tower of Terror,? Toy Story Mania?
Back in the day, yes...but with the changing technology and the other offerings, it probably wouldn't bring in the same dollars as the other rides.
 
WEDwaydatamover

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I can already see Disney turning Rivers of America into a rafting ride. Ugh...

I would love to see the Western river expansion. Even if they have to carve up Tom Sawyer's Island to do it. How great would it be to see the double decker Keel Boats serve as launches- Jungle Cruise-style thru the Wild Frontier. Jokes and all.

Turn the Liberty Bell into a restaurant.
 
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doctornick

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LuvtheGoof said:
And exactly where are you going to put all those people during parades and Wishes????? It's already wall-to-wall people at those times.
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I'm not sure where you are getting that from my post, as I specifically said that MK should get additions -- as long as the other parks are getting additions at the same time, particularly ones that are more attention grabbing. That way, anything coming to MK would be more "under the radar" and less likely to increase crowds there while the other parks will hopefully increase their attendance and spread guests around more. The way I envision it, they do something like open Star Wars at DHS in 2019 and advertise the heck out of it and be like "oh, and there's also this addition to MK you can check out" as sort of a low key thing.

Ironically, I think that if they actually built a high capacity ride based on WRE in Frontierland that it would be perfect for that purpose. It would likely be low key enough (albeit hyped in fan service) to not drawn particular interest among your average guest and drive attendance, while it could improve the number of attractions at the park. And if it were a slow moving and longish ride, could even help keep some folks off of guest areas and inside a show building.

That said, more to your point, the best way to help with the crowding at night at MK is fairly simple: offer more enticing night time entertainment at the other parks and keep them open later. A big reason MK gets larger crowds is because people hop to there after other parks or simply plan any late nights that they anticipate at WDW to be spent there. If other parks were open later, it would lessen the number of guests who end the night at MK instead.

And it will be interesting to see how MK is during Wishes once the MSEP ends so there isn't a night parade, while simultaneously RoL opens and DHS continues to have two large evening shows. We might see an impact on crowding for the MK fireworks, though I think the larger impact will be once Pandora opens along with RoL running.
 
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doctornick

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Corey P said:
You are right too a point.

I always hit MK when it is open later, midnight or 1AM, do a park in the morning and head out to MK after dinner. If another park was open later then I would probably hit that park instead of MK.

I don't think it will make a difference to the day trippers who will still only go to MK. Don't know how many that is but I bet it's a fairly large number. Park hopper passes and multiple days are expensive for many people so I think there there are many who come to WDW for one day and MK is the place they go.
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I think that's true, but there's also a number of Annual Passholders who go to MK for evening entertainment because it's the "best" one to do at night (and offers the most varied and numerous attractions to enjoy as well). Given those folks other comparable alternatives for a night out is a good thing.

However, I think the greater point is that the other three parks need far more attention and expansion than MK and -- to be fair -- seem to have a number of resources directed their way. MK could also use some increased capacity, but it should be done as a secondary priority after given the other parks plenty of new and exciting stuff to do. That doesn't mean that MK should be totally ignored, though, and the idea of getting one new ride over the next 5 years (in time for the 50th) doesn't sound like any excessive.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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Phil12 said:
This is going to be great when it comes to DHS!
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