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Really?!? Almost fired? That's pretty bad for a single term...
Ummm...not according to some WDI folks I talked to.
I asked directly "What are they going to do with PI now that the plans they had fell through".
The answer, from two different imagineers (cut and pasted here):
Imagineer 1 - "Good question. Even they don't know what to do now."
Imagineer 2 - "Please. You assume that they knew what they were doing in the first place. The only option, an one that they are trying to avoid to save face, is to reopen at least some of the clubs. They might actually do it, but they won't like it"
So, if by "Plan B" you mean backtracking and maybe re-opening a club or two....then yeah. Otherwise, nope.
No ... not really.
And since so many have picked up on my use of it ... since it even almost got an exec fired at TDO for bringing it up at a meeting ... since it has become known and talked about in Glendale and Burbank ...
I understand the term has both power and legs and will continue to use it. I may well use it on a book I am thinking about writing as well ... so feel free to like it, dislike it or not give a damn because it ain't going anywhere.
WDW is constantly lowering the bar and making its product more humdrum ... more homogenized (Disney Parks anyone?) ... more average ... again, that is WalMart.
And, no, WDW wasn't always this way ... but you know that.
Ummm...not according to some WDI folks I talked to.
I asked directly "What are they going to do with PI now that the plans they had fell through".
The answer, from two different imagineers (cut and pasted here):
Imagineer 1 - "Good question. Even they don't know what to do now."
Imagineer 2 - "Please. You assume that they knew what they were doing in the first place. The only option, and one that they are trying to avoid to save face, is to reopen at least some of the clubs. They might actually do it, but they won't like it"
So, if by "Plan B" you mean backtracking and maybe re-opening a club or two....then yeah. Otherwise, nope.
WDW is constantly lowering the bar and making its product more humdrum ... more homogenized (Disney Parks anyone?) ... more average ... again, that is WalMart.
And, no, WDW wasn't always this way ... but you know that.
I think politics are not welcome on these boards. You contadicted yourself here and with your HD comment earlier.
You say companies have plans for "failure" and then in the next paragraph say that Disney has no "plan b". So might I submit, there is a "plan b" for Disney going it alone reimagining PI, you are a mountain of contradictions, and finally, you are haughty to a fault.
Still waiting for you to pull out your oversold "pixie dust" joke for anyone who dares to disagree with you.
Yeah, I would fire one of my subordinates for using it also, but because it is a junk term with no real meaning.Really?!? Almost fired? That's pretty bad for a single term...
Even when WDW was better, I'd still say that's always been the recipe if you compare it do Disneyland and the other parks around the world.
Bigger > Better
Pretty much always like that. Sure it swings a little, I'm just saying it's a trend that isn't new and has no end for anybody.
No, that was called sarcasm ... I guess I should have used a ridiculous kiddie smiley so you'd get it.
While HD very likely has their next wave of store closures (and even the next) planned, Disney has NO plans for PI beyond signing third parties ... there was never a 'what if the economy collapses like it's 1929 and no one wants to open on our hallowed ground?'
Disney has no Plan B at all. You'll see greenery thrown around, banners hung and a few merchandise carts added FOR YEARS ... if things don't improve because there is nothing else in the works.
Oh, and I think you meant to use the word 'hottie' when describing me ...
And I'm still waiting to see you add something substanitive to one thread on this site.
Yeah, I would fire one of my subordinates for using it also, but because it is a junk term with no real meaning.
I would want facts and numbers. Not a word that has a hazy meaning of "generally bad".I agree. They need to stop ruining their product.
I would want facts and numbers. Not a word that has a hazy meaning of "generally bad".
I don't think they are ruining the product. I see things I don't care for and I communicate them through the proper channels. I also see many, many things that I still enjoy. For me, the positives still outweight the negatives, which is why they still get my money.
They haven't even really begun to roll out the new ideas. It will be a multi-year project.
That's because they don't have any new ideas. It was all a knee jerk reaction to some bad prior decisions.
I would want facts and numbers. Not a word that has a hazy meaning of "generally bad".
I don't think they are ruining the product.
I see things I don't care for and I communicate them through the proper channels. I also see many, many things that I still enjoy. For me, the positives still outweight the negatives, which is why they still get my money.
That's because they don't have any new ideas. It was all a knee jerk reaction to some bad prior decisions.
I know for a fact that is not true.
That's because they don't have any new ideas. It was all a knee jerk reaction to some bad prior decisions.
Yes, but what is the reason for that?Facts?
The facts are Disney closed PI with the intent of opening major third party dining and drinking establishments. Fact: Disney hasn't signed a single tenant since announcing the 'rethinking of PI'.
That's pretty much the case.
Now ... they have an empty mess on their hands. And who knows when or if they'll be able to go ahead with their plans.
And if they don't ... then what?
Exactly.That's because they don't have any new ideas. It was all a knee jerk reaction to some bad prior decisions.
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