Patty Jenkins' 'Rogue Squadron' coming December 2023

[erasure fan1]

They aren't going to erase something they've built a whole land and crappy hotel around.

Of course they won't, they are absolutely too stubborn to admit they took the wrong approach. At this point, there wouldn't really be a point to reworking the sequels. There's zero way, outside of CG to get the band back together so just leave it be. The issue is where are we going? Now is when we should be fully invested in either Knights of the old republic, or something that is 500yrs plus in the future. What they should have done from the start. Instead, they are flopping around like a fish out of water because Kennedy has no clue what to do.

Now granted, it doesn't matter what she does. At this point whatever she does, is going to be met with a lot of negativity. She's burned too many bridges with the fans. And I would be willing to bet she knows it and that's part of the reason we have nothing theatrical. Use D+ to put the pieces back together and hopefully get the majority of fans back on your side. Then roll out the new saga story.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is it festivus already?

“Airing of false grievances”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yep, I love watching Doomcock and find him very entertaining, but he's full of poop. They aren't going to erase something they've built a whole land and crappy hotel around.

Wait…people actually say that?

This is why vloggers are pointless. They’re for kids and should be left to that.

They were never going to “erase” anything. Doesn’t fit Disney at all. They oversaw a complete disaster in cinema. It’s ok…we can’t change it so excuses are pointless.

The beauty is Star Wars still slogs on. Resiliency built on the worlds first true modern super fans. Good for Disney.

But as far as “sequels” go…it’s over. We never got them. The right time was really the prequel years. Right age and right time. But George didn’t want to deal with it. His prerogative.

Disney tried to remake and “cast a wider net”. It’s understandable they tried…and it’s even more understandable it failed. It did…completely failed to accomplish the goals except some quick bucks…which are now gone. Not a launch point for new IP or product pusher.

We can all get along and not discuss this again and again. No true sequels. They didn’t come and they won’t come. The die is cast.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It's kinda like the show Mystery Science Theater.

Except with pandering misinformation.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Except with pandering misinformation.

On this we agree…it’s quackdom for attention

Wait…I’ve been blocked…

SOMEBODY TELL PENGUIN, PLEASE!!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Excuse me Mr. Penguin, The gentleman and scholar known as Sir Walter Raleigh wanted me to tell you. ... he agrees with you.

See, that's the problem. I don't want every post he makes about SW to loop me in. Nor do I want his commentary on every SW post I make. This is just an example of how I've become part of his SW obsession, and I don't want to be a part of it whether he agrees with me or not. I asked him to stop, and he didn't. And now he's enlisting other people to keep up the crossing of boundaries. So, he's still hasn't stopped. So, please don't enable whatever this is of his. Thanks.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

SOMEBODY TELL penguin to not jump on every Star Wars thread and defend Disney and call everyone a fanboy in moms basement…

See…”obsession” goes two ways on this. The posts are there to prove it.

See…that’s “the problem” too.

 

[Screamface]

Of course they won't, they are absolutely too stubborn to admit they took the wrong approach. At this point, there wouldn't really be a point to reworking the sequels. There's zero way, outside of CG to get the band back together so just leave it be. The issue is where are we going? Now is when we should be fully invested in either Knights of the old republic, or something that is 500yrs plus in the future. What they should have done from the start. Instead, they are flopping around like a fish out of water because Kennedy has no clue what to do.

The best option would be to simply ignore them.

Let the Mando shows do their own thing would out being bound by them. There's plenty of time in the timeline.

Galaxies Edge over time will become less timeline specific to the sequels.

The sequels will end up just existing as their own separate island of Star Wars.

The very worst thing they could do is to start trying to set up the sequels and bridge the timeline. Imagine trying to untangle that mess? At the very best, just vaguely allude to things if need me. It's dumb the next season of Mando has Babu Frik. More of this tiny Galaxy problem. Hopefully the same race, not the same character.

As for CGI band back together. I wish they'd do animated adaptions of Legends material. Audiences are sophisticated enough to understand different cannons and different universes.

 

[erasure fan1]

The very worst thing they could do is to start trying to set up the sequels and bridge the timeline. Imagine trying to untangle that mess? At the very best, just vaguely allude to things if need me. It's dumb the next season of Mando has Babu Frik. More of this tiny Galaxy problem. Hopefully the same race, not the same character.

That's the beauty of going knights of the old republic. It's exactly why Bioware went to that timeframe with the game. You have the flexibility to tell your own story, without all the baggage of what's come before. All you need to do is stay true to things like jedi, sith, the force... And you'll be fine.

I don't think that's Babu Frik, just his species. They should be using aliens, droids, ships, planets... From all the movies and shows. It is what connects the universe. The Mando is a great example of it. Say what you will about the sequels or prequels but they do have some cool star wars things in them. So since they aren't going to change or redo them, you might as well use the good stuff.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's the beauty of going knights of the old republic. It's exactly why Bioware went to that timeframe with the game. You have the flexibility to tell your own story, without all the baggage of what's come before. All you need to do is stay true to things like jedi, sith, the force... And you'll be fine.

I don't think that's Babu Frik, just his species. They should be using aliens, droids, ships, planets... From all the movies and shows. It is what connects the universe. The Mando is a great example of it. Say what you will about the sequels or prequels but they do have some cool star wars things in them. So since they aren't going to change or redo them, you might as well use the good stuff.

Everything from the “sequels” is hot garbage and should be dumped. Not “replaced”…just ignored.
I could go point by point as to why…but I don’t want to bore anyone

 

[erasure fan1]

Everything from the “sequels” is hot garbage and should be dumped. Not “replaced”…just ignored.
I could go point by point as to why…but I don’t want to bore anyone

I think there are some good ship designs as well as some good droids and aliens. As far as story beats go, or actual characters, yea I agree. I wouldn't mind a Luke and Kylo story 5 or 6 years before ep7, but in no way do I think Kennedy could do it right. So yea, just leave it be.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think there are some good ship designs as well as some good droids and aliens. As far as story beats go, or actual characters, yea I agree. I wouldn't mind a Luke and Kylo story 5 or 6 years before ep7, but in no way do I think Kennedy could do it right. So yea, just leave it be.

It’s all wrong. Starting with the name changes and slight mods to the OT designs

Da hell where they thinking?

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Any minute now the bird, Wendy, Reygirl or the Bruh is gonna tell you how toxic you are because you read the room with common sense

When will people realize the toxicity doesn't come from criticism, but the attitude and gatekeeping from certain "fans" who insist their opinion on any given show or movie is the correct one?

Case in point, liking or disliking a movie isn't "common sense" but rather a matter of individual taste.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When will people realize the toxicity doesn't come from criticism, but the attitude and gatekeeping from certain "fans" who insist their opinion on any given show or movie is the correct one?

Case in point, liking or disliking a movie isn't "common sense" but rather a matter of individual taste.

Is there such a thing as a bad movie then? That’s an Honest question. Because someone…somewhere…likes every movie.
No effort is bad by default?

And bruh can express an opinion too…instead of lurking.

 

[Disney Irish]

And bruh can express an opinion too…instead of lurking.

Its the same old arguments.... So why should I even engage, its not like opinions are going to be changed anyways.

I will say this, just because some movie(s) are deemed "bad" by a particular group doesn't mean they are not likable overall, especially by newer generations.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Its the same old arguments.... So why should I even engage, its not like opinions are going to be changed anyways.

I will say this, just because some movie(s) are deemed "bad" by a particular group doesn't mean they are not likable overall, especially by newer generations.

Fair enough.

So you answered the question: somebody likes it…therefore it is successful by default?

I bet the accountants disagree…so my opinion is “minor”

 

[Screamface]

I will say this, just because some movie(s) are deemed "bad" by a particular group doesn't mean they are not likable overall, especially by newer generations.

Yet none of those movies ever have any ongoing legacy or fandom. The newer generations I knew who liked TLJ didn't even bother seeing ROS and don't give a crap about Star Wars now.

 

[erasure fan1]

Its the same old arguments.... So why should I even engage, its not like opinions are going to be changed anyways.

I will say this, just because some movie(s) are deemed "bad" by a particular group doesn't mean they are not likable overall, especially by newer generations.

It is a lot of the same arguments for sure. There's only so many ways we can blame Kennedy. Personally I'm glad if you and others loved the sequels. I really wish I did. But my question would be this. If they were overwhelmingly loved, why has Disney all but abandoned continuing the sequels story theatricality? That was the plan. Pass the torch to these new characters for 10, 11 and 12. And now we have zero theatrical star wars to look forward to. If as many people were happy with how Disney handled star wars as I'm told they are. Why aren't we seeing he next instalment like we should be?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yet none of those movies ever have any ongoing legacy or fandom. The newer generations I knew who liked TLJ didn't even bother seeing ROS and don't give a crap about Star Wars now.

Oh that little detail…

Well at least the product sales for the DT are strong, right?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It is a lot of the same arguments for sure. There's only so many ways we can blame Kennedy. Personally I'm glad if you and others loved the sequels. I really wish I did. But my question would be this. If they were overwhelmingly loved, why has Disney all but abandoned continuing the sequels story theatricality? That was the plan. Pass the torch to these new characters for 10, 11 and 12. And now we have zero theatrical star wars to look forward to. If as many people were happy with how Disney handled star wars as I'm told they are. Why aren't we seeing he next instalment like we should be?

Disney has “admitted” the failure without saying it. But some feel it’s only “official” if Josh D’amaro has a presser in tight pants?

Here is where we get no where…so we are best to throw it on ice. Not a hard case to make…but whatever.


But would it surprise you if I said I DON’T blame kennedy all that much? I think she may have been miscast…but still has valuable Hollywood skills for the job.
I think there’s a much bigger rat on the whole thing…And they were wrong. So wrong.
Some things fans should do in Hollywood. And fans are fools and I would never normally say that. But not here.

But you have to kinda “believe it”…and the money people don’t.
They’re were taking luge lessons in 1980