News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

JD80

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One of the great things about the Muppets is that there is so much you can do with them, they are not tied to one genre and can be made to appeal to a broad audience. They are also timeless, they can work in any era.

Muppets is an interesting IP. It's so ingrained into the zeitgeist that it still sells merch but not as popular enough to take eyeballs from shows like Bluey or Percy Jackson.

Variety shows or other nightly "Live" shows is a genre dying with linear tv.
 

Tha Realest

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But we were told the project is "shovel ready" and that "dirt was already moving" on all of the projects!

Disney is a shell of its former self. This is a good idea for a ride, and has been for over a decade. They should use Muppet Courtyard, and turn Hall of Presidents into an American History show hosted by the muppets.

Start immediately on both projects.
Oh, the shovels are moving something, but it’s not dirt.
 

GenChi

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We're intentionally getting conflicting information because there's obviously two high-level employee/executive factions still internally fighting over this. One wants in MC, one wants in AC. They are fighting for many different reasons such as costs, having to move office locations, future expansion ideas in the two plots, even wanting to just preserve Muppetvision. If the location was known they would have announced this with the Monsters blog post a few days after D23 like they did with Cars.

News and "leaks" are meant to conflict with each other because each side wants to get over the other. The articles and social media campaign to save MV was very planned and got the backlash they wanted, with connections to influencers and even journalists to set it up up to a month before D23. That response might save MV, but at the very least will ensure Muppets will have some attraction going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised if it still isn't decided, there's no indication it is. Whoever is supporting MV is going to fight for it until the very end too, as I think they have since they first planned it there. So really, we can't know anything about this until it comes from the mouse's mouth. Which can be tomorrow, or months from now, who really knows.
 

bwr827

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Idk if this has been said but I have a theory there’s going to be a portion on the coaster where you “go through” a door and you’re in the snow with the abominable snowman and then you go through another day back to the factory
That would be spectacular!
 

Streetway

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News and "leaks" are meant to conflict with each other because each side wants to get over the other. The articles and social media campaign to save MV was very planned and got the backlash they wanted, with connections to influencers and even journalists to set it up up to a month before D23. That response might save MV, but at the very least will ensure Muppets will have some attraction going forward
Damn. This situation gets crazier and crazier. Good on those imagineers for sensing ahead that this is a bad move and trying to stop it. As for the “ensure muppets will have some atttaction” part, I’m curious as to what this means. Well, we’ll find out. It seems this is only beginning.
 

Streetway

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GoofGoof

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We're intentionally getting conflicting information because there's obviously two high-level employee/executive factions still internally fighting over this. One wants in MC, one wants in AC. They are fighting for many different reasons such as costs, having to move office locations, future expansion ideas in the two plots, even wanting to just preserve Muppetvision. If the location was known they would have announced this with the Monsters blog post a few days after D23 like they did with Cars.

News and "leaks" are meant to conflict with each other because each side wants to get over the other. The articles and social media campaign to save MV was very planned and got the backlash they wanted, with connections to influencers and even journalists to set it up up to a month before D23. That response might save MV, but at the very least will ensure Muppets will have some attraction going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised if it still isn't decided, there's no indication it is. Whoever is supporting MV is going to fight for it until the very end too, as I think they have since they first planned it there. So really, we can't know anything about this until it comes from the mouse's mouth. Which can be tomorrow, or months from now, who really knows.
Is the office space really an issue that could sway a decision? I would hope not. Is there anyone important enough in those offices that could actually influence the decision? I get that there are costs associated with relocating offices but they are dropping billions on theme parks so that cost cannot be anything more than a rounding error.

If this response proves Muppets is still popular, instead of replacing Muppets Courtyard and cramming the Muppets somewhere else in the parks why not keep Muppet Vision and add a new ride and/or play area for kids to go from a mini-land to a full blown land. Splash area, slides, interactive houses maybe even a simple dark ride or some form of flat ride(s). We all know the park needs more for kids without height restrictions.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
We're intentionally getting conflicting information because there's obviously two high-level employee/executive factions still internally fighting over this. One wants in MC, one wants in AC. They are fighting for many different reasons such as costs, having to move office locations, future expansion ideas in the two plots, even wanting to just preserve Muppetvision. If the location was known they would have announced this with the Monsters blog post a few days after D23 like they did with Cars.

News and "leaks" are meant to conflict with each other because each side wants to get over the other. The articles and social media campaign to save MV was very planned and got the backlash they wanted, with connections to influencers and even journalists to set it up up to a month before D23. That response might save MV, but at the very least will ensure Muppets will have some attraction going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised if it still isn't decided, there's no indication it is. Whoever is supporting MV is going to fight for it until the very end too, as I think they have since they first planned it there. So really, we can't know anything about this until it comes from the mouse's mouth. Which can be tomorrow, or months from now, who really knows.

It really doesn’t work that way. It will be placed for the most advantageous spot and also to maximize the overhead costs long term.

The “factions” are only kids playing in the sandbox…dad will tell them to pipe
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CosmicDuck

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Is the office space really an issue that could sway a decision? I would hope not. Is there anyone important enough in those offices that could actually influence the decision? I get that there are costs associated with relocating offices but they are dropping billions on theme parks so that cost cannot be anything more than a rounding error.

If this response proves Muppets is still popular, instead of replacing Muppets Courtyard and cramming the Muppets somewhere else in the parks why not keep Muppet Vision and add a new ride and/or play area for kids to go from a mini-land to a full blown land. Splash area, slides, interactive houses maybe even a simple dark ride or some form of flat ride(s). We all know the park needs more for kids without height restrictions.
Definitely a factor, you're destroying office space that costs money and will have to relocate all those employees.

People are under the misconception that DHS and WDW are working with blank checkbooks. This isn't the case at all, the money is very finite. WDW has been alotted a budget, and DHS has a certain amount of that budget, and Monsters Courtyard has a piece of that budget. And they've "hired" WDI to help spend it. So no matter what, if you're spending money on one thing its going to come out of somewhere.

The money they could/would save by not razing office buildings to place it in Muppets Courtyard would absolutely give us a "better" land. And likewise the money they could/would spend to place it in Animation Courtyard will surely come out of a different part of the land.

They're not all just sitting around trying to decide if they should make everyone miserable or not to save a relative $10
 

monothingie

Nakatomi Plaza Christmas Eve 1988. Never Forget.
Premium Member
It really doesn’t work that way. It will be placed for the most advantageous spot and also to maximize the overhead costs long term.

The “factions” are only kids playing in the sandbox…dad will tell them to pipe
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I've always found it funny when Disney tries to do stupid, lazy, and unpopular things to try to save a couple of pennies in development, and then still vastly overspends budgets by millions without worry.
 

bwr827

Well-Known Member
It really doesn’t work that way. It will be placed for the most advantageous spot and also to maximize the overhead costs long term.

The “factions” are only kids playing in the sandbox…dad will tell them to pipe
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Not so — the truth is Disney head office is the Sharks vs. the Jets.

It’s been nearly two weeks of finger-snapping dance fights ever since D23.

Or, you know, it’s just a hierarchical organization with clear decision rights.
 

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