DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Disstevefan1]

I think there are a few possibilities in the cards - that is the best case scenario but even keeping the boat and some of the scenery but still building onto the small island would help.

I’ve posted this before but this solves all potential problems and is a win-win-win. View attachment 811005

There you go again, reasonable, logical, smart, good for the guest decision.
Disney will never go for it.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

There are a number of other projects with no announced location, including Avatar and Coco at DCA and the new pirates tavern. I don’t know if the vagueness necessarily points to it being one location over the other

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Going to throw this out there, because I have very little patience for the whole, "Muppets will take over Hall of Presidents!" refrain that's sprung up since D23...

One, no. I can't stand the idea of taking a quick 2019 street show as the basis for the next evolution of a franchise that currently exists in a form including Jim's own voice for all to hear. No, the Muppets don't have a magical connection to the teaching of American history. No.

Two, if you really want to freewheel on the Hall of Presidents (in another thread)... Note that the show includes a bit with Lincoln solo at center stage. It would be a *lot* easier and (I would imagine) cheaper for them to keep him, ditch the rest (wowee, some of those need re-sculpting, and Taft has dislocated shoulders), and add a turntable with Uncle Walt on the other side. It would be relatively trivial to include show filler on the screens they've installed. They've even frontloaded the Great Moments and Walt narrative in the lobby exhibits.

There. Chew on that. Enough with the damn Hall of Presidential Muppets. They deserve better.

 

[EagleScout610]

Going to throw this out there, because I have very little patience for the whole, "Muppets will take over Hall of Presidents!" refrain that's sprung up since D23...

One, no. I can't stand the idea of taking a quick 2019 street show as the basis for the next evolution of a franchise that currently exists in a form including Jim's own voice for all to hear. No, the Muppets don't have a magical connection to the teaching of American history. No.

Two, if you really want to freewheel on the Hall of Presidents (in another thread)... Note that the show includes a bit with Lincoln solo at center stage. It would be a *lot* easier and (I would imagine) cheaper for them to keep him, ditch the rest (wowee, some of those need re-sculpting, and Taft has dislocated shoulders), and add a turntable with Uncle Walt on the other side. It would be relatively trivial to include show filler on the screens they've installed. They've even frontloaded the Great Moments and Walt narrative in the lobby exhibits.

There. Chew on that. Enough with the damn Hall of Presidential Muppets. They deserve better.

Unfortunately I don't think Disney has it in them to do 'better' with the Muppets, or much of anything anymore.

 

[gorillaball]

Eh, election season, attached with an economy that is currently feels like it’s tilting between recession and okayish…things economically are weird right now. Best case scenario things for roa closes around January/feb of 2025…a lot can happen right now…that’s without mentioning bird flu pandemics/monkey pox, and or any recession after the elections.

If nothing weird was happening currently I would be like, yeah, roa is a goner. Right now, in my head at least, things feel very tba based off economic conditions.

You don’t manage long term projects based on which way the wind blows today.

 

[sedati]

One, no. I can't stand the idea of taking a quick 2019 street show as the basis for the next evolution of a franchise that currently exists in a form including Jim's own voice for all to hear. No, the Muppets don't have a magical connection to the teaching of American history. No.

Blaspheme elsewhere blasphemer. I got your Jim Henson's own voice and the teaching of American history right here:

 

[EagleScout610]

Blaspheme elsewhere blasphemer. I got your Jim Henson's own voice and the teaching of American history right here:

The difference between the writing for the Old Muppets and Modern Muppets is staggering.

 

[Quietmouse]

You don’t manage long term projects based on which way the wind blows today.

Sure, but they definitely most factor in emergency budget cuts. If you worked in project management for any large company you know this first hand. Everything is smooth sailing until it’s not.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Sure, but they definitely most factor in emergency budget cuts. If you worked in project management for any large company you know this first hand. Everything is smooth sailing until it’s not.

You seem to think a lot has changed in the 10 days since they announced these projects.

 

[Bleed0range]

i wish mini lands would glow away.

I don't think there is anything wrong with just building the door coaster inside the factory and saying here it is. Not every new addition needs it's own land. You can build up the placesetting in the queue.

if they went back to broad ideas, frontier, tomorrow, fantasy, adventure, that gives you the freedom to drop a bunch of stuff close together without having to devote so much space to non-attraction ip based placesetting

zootopia, hard pass, i didn't enjoy the move or the look of the new land, it seems very matte and plastic looking. both were trying too hard

Cars, radiator springs is awesome. but our cars will just be wilderness, which i love national parks, but don't call it a cars land. go ahead kill off frontierland and make it wilderness land

villians will be what i'm describing where there are hints of different properties throughout the general land.

They should replace AC and just put Monsters there along with moving the Cars ride there too and it could all be interconnected with Toy Story Land as a Pixar theme and save ROA.

Then just make Villains land bigger.

 

[gorillaball]

Sure, but they definitely most factor in emergency budget cuts. If you worked in project management for any large company you know this first hand. Everything is smooth sailing until it’s not.

Ironically I do work for a Fortune 200 company. I’ll repeat, you don’t modify your 3+ yr plans based on short term economic factors or you’d be blowing in the wind and cancel or double down 5 times before you get right back where you were. Nothing short of a pandemic or 9/11 should impact what you already have solid commitments and budgets for.

 

[sedati]

Instead of focusing on leaders, why not the people? I'd love them to dust off the idea for the "We the People" attraction planned for Disney's America that was going to use the Muppets to teach about immigration.

My only real hope for Liberty Square is that the Haunted Mansion area is fleshed out into a full Legend of Sleepy Hollow land (dust off that dark ride as well) on the way to Villains Land. (preferably with a Nightmare Before Christmas attraction snuck in somewhere as well)

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Blaspheme elsewhere blasphemer. I got your Jim Henson's own voice and the teaching of American history right here:

I’m not for moving them to a new park just for that, either, when you get down to it. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Disney had their frogs and pigs in a row enough that having a place for the Muppets wasn’t as worrisome as it is?

 

[Steamboat71]

You seem to think a lot has changed in the 10 days since they announced these projects.

Keeping the bottom loop hasn't been talked about?

 

[Advisable Joseph]

They’ll be building it too soon for that. Villains Land could go, though.

They can postpone if necessary.

If I read the UCF professor's thoughts correctly, though, they need to work on the northern island in order to get at Villians Land, however.

 

[Starship824]

Can we get back to talking about Monster inc.? we already have a ROA and TSI thread.

 

[GoofGoof]

The economy is a whirl wind. Don’t be surprised if things get cut. Disney already knows that roa has backlash attached. If the economy hits an official recession, then don’t be surprised if cars land quietly disappears.

The original Carsland was announced in Oct 2007 as part of a multi-year billion + dollar project for DCA. Less than a year later we were neck deep in the Great Recession and most companies were hoarding cash but Disney still broke ground and went forward with the project. I don’t think a recession now will necessarily impact a project like this. They are focused more long term. A slip in attendance due to a blip in the economy will be more likely to result in operations cost cuts and the usual shell games then cutting of longer term plans.

 

[Fantasmicguy2]

So your idea is to replace Mickey Mouse with the Muppets. In a Disney park. And you think that'd be more popular. Gotcha.

Mickey has a giant ride right in front of the park as well as a nighttime show where he's the star thats beloved and has been running for years. As a huge Mickey fan he will be just fine losing the short film theater.

 

[Brer Panther]

Muppets Most Wanted was junk in comparison.

Nobody was asking for a movie where the plot is that obnoxious "Character A steals Character B's identity and despite how obvious it is that they're not Character B everybody falls for it" cliche, and nobody was asking for them to turn the Muppets (except Kermit, Walter, and Animal) into hive-minded morons who can't do anything right and exist to make things harder for Kermit. Seeing Nicholas Stoller talk about how stupid Fozzie was in an interview explained so much.

They need to bring Steve back - he’s willing.

I doubt they're going to get Steve back after the smear campaign against him in 2017. I do think Matt Vogel's been doing a good job as Kermit, for what it's worth, but what they did to Steve was certainly the beginning of the slump that the Muppets have been in.

I mostly want Steve back so we can have Rizzo again.

I want Rizzo back too. From my understanding, Bill Baretta doesn't want to recast the character yet because of how close he is to Steve.

But, if Disney's so insistent about not getting Steve back, I've heard a lot of people suggest that Rizzo's new performer should be Bruce Lanoil. I think that would be a great idea.

 

[SpectroMagician]

But we were told the project is "shovel ready" and that "dirt was already moving" on all of the projects!

Disney is a shell of its former self. This is a good idea for a ride, and has been for over a decade. They should use Muppet Courtyard, and turn Hall of Presidents into an American History show hosted by the muppets.

Start immediately on both projects.