Mission:Space update (confirmed)

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Bocabear said:
now add in an Omnimover system like the Living Seas to take you from the Landing port to the Space Pavilion that would pass through some amazing Mars displays and visuals before entering the actual pavilion and I think you would have a complete sure-fire win. It would effectively be the Space version of the old Living Seas...
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My thought was that they could do a space elevator ride as alternative for people who aren't seeking thrills on the centrifuge ride, essentially just a 3-D theater that displays a view of rising from the surface of Earth into orbit and then being launched out to Mars or wherever the dome base is set.

marni1971 said:
Kind of like the original plan...
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:banghead:
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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marni1971 said:
The "space pavilion" probably went through the most changes of theme and proposal of all the park.
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Such a shame when that had the most potential to be the absolute most spectacular pavilion in the park... If you had ever been to the Star Trek experience in Las Vegas, they did a great job of making the whole casino feel like it was on a space station...it had "skylights" looking off into space in the ceiling... with star ships gliding by, moving stars and planets... It was a better done interior for the casino than what Disney built for a Space pavilion...
 
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rushtest4echo

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Bocabear said:
I think the ride is good...it's what happens afterward that the experience tanks in my view... It feels very much like the prelude to a larger attraction...which is kind of what it is... If you disembarked your space shuttle and walked through a tunnel to Mars Base Alpha ( Wonders Of Life) where there were exhibits and maybe another exciting attraction to further the experience and the story that you have just rocketed to Mars, then by all means I think it would feeel fabulous and complete... but as it current;y sits, it's a good thrill and no meat and potatoes.
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Or if you strapped on a jet pack and flew around... right? ;)
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Bocabear said:
Such a shame when that had the most potential to be the absolute most spectacular pavilion in the park... If you had ever been to the Star Trek experience in Las Vegas, they did a great job of making the whole casino feel like it was on a space station...it had "skylights" looking off into space in the ceiling... with star ships gliding by, moving stars and planets... It was a better done interior for the casino than what Disney built for a Space pavilion...
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That type of environment may reappear as an immersive space elsewhere sometime in the future.
 
ElvisMickey

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BEARSHOUSE4 said:
It seems to me there are 2 groups of people: those who love M:S, and those who hate it. Not many things at WDW I could say that about. Usually people stay toward the middle,and enjoy all attractions. Not this one.
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Mission: Space isn't a ride that I would enjoy, regardless of the fact that it replaced Horizons. I'm not a fan of any type of attraction that provides barf bags for when your ride is over. So for those of us who REALLY loved Horizons AND have no desire to ride Mission: Space, it's just a cut with salt in the wound for extra measure. Horizons, to many of us, is just as great an attraction as the Haunted Mansion. So for those who don't understand where we Horizons fans are coming from, think of it like this...it would be the equivalent of Disney knocking the Haunted Mansion completely down and replacing it with an attraction where you lay in a coffin and spin around for a few minutes. It's replacing amazing attractions (Horizons, Mansion), with something way less amazing, but still sorta the same theme (spinning space, spinning coffins). You may even throw up...or die...and never even have to get out of the coffin :hungover:.
 
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rushtest4echo

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marni1971 said:
Can't say more at the mo.
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It's been well documented that Universal has been in play for Star Trek since before even Men in Black was built (which was supposedly part of the plot of land what would be used for the Star Trek area at Uni Orlando. Every few years Goddard gets everyone whipped up into a frenzy that it's really going to happen this time. At this point I think the man just wants to put to use all of the groundwork he's been laying for so long. I can't blame him, but is there any substance beyond him really wanting it to happen? Have you heard anything beyond the occasional "well Universal could land Star Trek and they'll probably do stuff like we saw in Vegas"?

Maybe the 3rd gate at Universal has something to do with this? I'd be over the moon for a properly done Star Trek ride/land/park. So many possibilities. Even the stuff in Vegas was awesome, especially considering the quality of stuff Paramount was used to doing at their properties! If Universal takes that and turns it into a park/land, it'd be a gold mine!

Am I off the mark?
 
Goofyernmost

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ElvisMickey said:
Mission: Space isn't a ride that I would enjoy, regardless of the fact that it replaced Horizons. I'm not a fan of any type of attraction that provides barf bags for when your ride is over. So for those of us who REALLY loved Horizons AND have no desire to ride Mission: Space, it's just a cut with salt in the wound for extra measure. Horizons, to many of us, is just as great an attraction as the Haunted Mansion. So for those who don't understand where we Horizons fans are coming from, think of it like this...it would be the equivalent of Disney knocking the Haunted Mansion completely down and replacing it with an attraction where you lay in a coffin and spin around for a few minutes. It's replacing amazing attractions (Horizons, Mansion), with something way less amazing, but still sorta the same theme (spinning space, spinning coffins). You may even throw up...or die...and never even have to get out of the coffin :hungover:.
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In all fairness, as often as I have been on it, I have never seen one used or even reached for. It is like Mark Twain said when he showed up in an obituary... "Reports of my death has been greatly exaggerated".
 
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marni1971

marni1971

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rushtest4echo said:
Have you heard anything beyond the occasional "well Universal could land Star Trek and they'll probably do stuff like we saw in Vegas"??
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Not for a few years now. They were after the IP after Hogsmesde as a potential Toon Lagoon replacement. There again they were after LotR for that too.
 
larryz

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rushtest4echo said:
Maybe the 3rd gate at Universal has something to do with this? I'd be over the moon for a properly done Star Trek ride/land/park. So many possibilities. Even the stuff in Vegas was awesome, especially considering the quality of stuff Paramount was used to doing at their properties! If Universal takes that and turns it into a park/land, it'd be a gold mine!

Am I off the mark?
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Cedar Fair bought the original Star Trek: The Experience from Paramount when they bought the Paramount parks... I imagine they still have the rights to it...
 
lazyboy97o

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larryz said:
Cedar Fair bought the original Star Trek: The Experience from Paramount when they bought the Paramount parks... I imagine they still have the rights to it...
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Paramount included a short-term licensing deal as part of the sale of the Paramount Parks. Cedar Fair, who did not pretend to operate theme parks, promptly dropped the licensed properties, so Cedar Fair would no longer be an issue.
 
PorterRedkey

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articos said:
Could Horizons have been updated? Absolutely. But not without a sponsor that wanted it.
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It only I was a multi-billionaire, I would have been the sponsor.

Let's get 1 million people to do a Kickstarter to sponsor the new Century 3 pavilion. It would require some big donors, but it you get an average of $100 a person the is 100 million dollars. Granted that would probably only me a third of the cost, but I can dream can't I?
 
rnese

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Casper Gutman said:
Opinions are subjective, of course, but man, I disagree with this. Horizons - and all of the original omnimover crop of Epcot rides, particularly WoM, were very rerideable. The elaborately detailed scenery, the humor, the shifts between tones, the simple brilliance of the design - even the relaxing movement of the vehicles offered something appealing on every trip. In general, I feel dark rides have far longer shelf lives and are far more likely to inspire guest loyalty than most other types of attractions. There is a reason Pirates and HM are the crown jewels of the Disney parks. Had they survived a bit longer, I feel Imagination and, perhaps, WoM might have achieved the same status. As to fun - nothing at Epcot is as much fun for me as those old omnimovers.

I would argue Mission: Space is one of the least rerideable attractions Disney has ever built - the visuals are basic and uninteresting, the story bland, and the movement of the vehicle often unpleasant. Now that I think about it, M:S may be the worst ride at WDW - it's certainly in the bottom 5. I almost never want to see an attraction removed, but I think the best "remodel" for M:S would be to completely level it and start again.
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Here, here! You nailed it.
 

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