Animaniac93-98
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Are you trying to tell me Ratatouille & Crush Coaster are better than Beauty and the Beast: Still On Stage & Chewbacca: The Meet 'n Greet?
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Are you trying to tell me Ratatouille & Crush Coaster are better than Beauty and the Beast: Still On Stage & Chewbacca: The Meet 'n Greet?
BrerJon
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I think lots of people who claim DHS is better than Paris haven't actually been there. Paris has a tram tour, a Lights Motors Action show, Ratatouille, Crush, Toy Story Land, Armageddon and Cinemagique... there's lots that it has that DHS doesn't. DHS has the Muppets, One Man's Dream and Toy Story Mania, but that's about it.
Mike S
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Great Movie Ride and Indiana Jones too.
BrerJon
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My two top attractions as well, how could I have forgotten them?
EPCOTCenterLover
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DHS is much better than WDSP. At least it used to be. And, yes, I've been to both. DHS is a much prettier park with better attractions, dining, and shopping. WDSP is a mismatch of ideas and theming. A very poor excuse for a Disney park. Even DCA 1.0 was far better- and that is saying something.
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BrianLo
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WDSP is a horrifically broken park, it's rotten to its very foundation. Far more than DCA ever was. DHS actually has a foundation and then it pretty much stops right there.
Eventually they will keep putting enough lip stick on the pig (WDSP) until it's the prettiest pig at the state fair. DHS lacks attractions, but the entire park doesn't need to be bulldozed over to fix it... just half of it.
All of that said, I prefer the pretty pig to whatever DHS is right now. But, I know DHS will be a nice park in five years. WDSP will still just be a fancy pig.
Or, put another way, WDSP is an amusement park. I don't know if it will ever manage to become a theme park.
DVC91
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With each visit to DHS, I'm finding it harder and harder to use TSM as a boasting point. The last time I got in line for it, the wait time said 40 min, there really was no line for the most part, so I figured it would be less, and it ended up being nearly 2.5hrs.
I submit that it be renamed to "Standing in Line: The Ride"
BrerJon
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I wasn't talking about how it used to be, but comparing the parks *today*.
Sure, back in the MGM days that was an amazing park, but today, with so many shuttered and creaking attractions in DHS, DSP wins hands down. This will change as new things are eventually built, but a guest visiting the two in April 2016 would be hard pushed to find much to rave about in DHS.
Even just comparing value for money, DSP costs about $80 for a day ticket and DHS is about $105, so just on that Paris wins.
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Not broken. Not fixed yet but it's on it's way. Did you visit in 2002? I did. There was a position just outside Cinemagique where you could stand and see all four edges of the park boundary from onstage. I won't call it seeing the berm since it wasn't even a berm.
It has changed for the better almost beyond almost all recognition now. But it still has a long way to go. Hopefully the work over the next 18 months will help too.
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EPCOTCenterLover
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BrerJon, I still think DHS is better. But thats why there's many different choices in our world!
BrianLo
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Ya, it complete boggles my mind what they 'opened' in 2002. My first taste of DLRP was 2013 - which was certainly a nicer WDSP at the behest of a completely run down DLP.
I'm being unnecessarily harsh on it, I did have a good time in January! I will say they certainly have somehow scrounged up money to make it better since then.
Times may be dark, but they aren't yet dark enough to allow a project like WDSP circa 2002 to occur. Let's hope we never get back there again!
Oh absolutely. Everything was low budget driven. And then Eisner commented (off the record) "maybe we did build it too small" - on opening eve. Not in his defence, but they had to have the park open when it did. MGM Europe for various reasons was deemed undo able. So they went with the cheapest bare minimum possible with the hope of fleshing it out later. And it showed.
The danger is also swinging the other way - blow the money on style and have nothing left for the substance. Something they haven't learnt either As we can see elsewhere.
FigmentForver96
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It's really hard hard to choice from both but I feel Hollywood Studios has the upper hand slightly. Star Tours, a better Tower of Terror, Fantasmic!, of course Great Movie Ride. The atmosphere of Hollywood and Sunset also make it a little better
aladdin2007
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Toy Story Mania also
I wouldn't really call that a plus
but WDSP will have its own version soon...
Animaniac93-98
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I wouldn't really call that a plus
By the end of the 25th (Sep 2018)?
I have Chappie's personal contact info. I just don't want to be the one that gives it to you. I'm sorry, but there are individuals with personal animus to me that work high in this company. They could say I'm putting it out so people can harass or threaten him or the like. Yes, it would all be BS, but that is how Disney operates. I am sure you can find a CM here who can, at the very least, put you in touch with his office.
BTW, I just noticed this thread has 102 FB likes. That is astounding to me.
I have put out far juicier and meatier threads that have gone on for months and generated 4-5 likes ... clearly, the fan community is either nearing a breaking point ... or y'all just have become Marvel fans and want a talking raccoon in your Towers. I do not.
I have put out far juicier and meatier threads that have gone on for months and generated 4-5 likes ... clearly, the fan community is either nearing a breaking point ... or y'all just have become Marvel fans and want a talking raccoon in your Towers. I do not.
The CBS license is a small side item. Like an added 'benefit' if you will ... I can only say what I know: that this idea came together very quickly when Bob Iger decided to stall the DCA Marvel Land due to ongoing issues in Shanghai. This was viewed as cheap and easy ... and a very quick way to get Marvel IP into BOTH US resorts.
There has been talk of RnRC changes, including a Spidey one for Paris for years now. But none of it has been very serious. And the Captain America themed hybrid dark ride/coaster has totally removed a RnRC clone from DCA's future.