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Lights of Winter not being displayed this year (2009)!?!
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Buried20KLeague
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I've been reading this whole thread, almost with a smile on my face. All I can think as I read all this is "They finally all get it!!!!! YES!!!!!" :sohappy:
I just want to make sure that everyone recognizes this isn't the first thing they've taken away without replacement and without caring about the guest. This is a trend that has been going on for quite some time. Not just about the holidays... But with everything. Restaurants, clubs, attractions.
There have been a LOT of people posting in this thread that I haven't seen post on here for YEARS. I think that's great. I think that shows that this issue is starting to cross over to more than just the fanboys (me included) that spend way too much time on sites like this. :lookaroun:lol: And there's been a lot of brand new posters that have joined just to comment on this situation and what it means to the bigger picture. Welcome to you all! :wave:
I just want WDW to offer the same kind of quality as the other Disney resorts around the world. And the past handful of years have made me think that the declining going on at WDW would have no bottom... That nothing would get them to care... That regardless of what they did, some people would continue to make excuses for TDO. This thread has given me hope that maybe that's not the case. Maybe there IS a "last straw" for people. Maybe TDO CAN'T just do whatever they please with no negative impact to them!
There's a lot WDW does right. But there's a growing number of things they're doing wrong. Here's hoping this helps the general public see that and things start to change. :king:
I just want to make sure that everyone recognizes this isn't the first thing they've taken away without replacement and without caring about the guest. This is a trend that has been going on for quite some time. Not just about the holidays... But with everything. Restaurants, clubs, attractions.
There have been a LOT of people posting in this thread that I haven't seen post on here for YEARS. I think that's great. I think that shows that this issue is starting to cross over to more than just the fanboys (me included) that spend way too much time on sites like this. :lookaroun:lol: And there's been a lot of brand new posters that have joined just to comment on this situation and what it means to the bigger picture. Welcome to you all! :wave:
I just want WDW to offer the same kind of quality as the other Disney resorts around the world. And the past handful of years have made me think that the declining going on at WDW would have no bottom... That nothing would get them to care... That regardless of what they did, some people would continue to make excuses for TDO. This thread has given me hope that maybe that's not the case. Maybe there IS a "last straw" for people. Maybe TDO CAN'T just do whatever they please with no negative impact to them!
There's a lot WDW does right. But there's a growing number of things they're doing wrong. Here's hoping this helps the general public see that and things start to change. :king:
Mr.EPCOT
Active Member
I loved Joy to the World, and especially the beginning of the song that was right after it.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Oh booyyyy...I just realized The last thing Epcot needed was another Martyr...
Oh, uhh...errrI mean, SAVE THE LIGHTS OF WINTER! Yeah! Woo!
:lookaroun :lol: :zipit:
Oh, uhh...errrI mean, SAVE THE LIGHTS OF WINTER! Yeah! Woo!
:lookaroun :lol: :zipit:
Figment82
Well-Known Member
Yeah, you're right - nothing beats the Carol of the Bells part, especially the dramatic finish. I'm still a sucker for "Standing in Motion."
Oh... They're both great, and sadly, both gone...
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
All a game of greed, which is really at the crux of this. It's low, especially for Disney, a company that provided this, which IS WHAT MADE THEM DIFFERENT.
:sohappy:
You posted this!? Fantastic.
That is SUCH a shame. What used to be a vibrant area is highly generic.
Do you honestly think that effected this?
Needless to say, it shouldn't.
Look at that SPIN!!:ROFLOL:Oh, that's just a depressing thing.A small trip down memory lane is called for I think. To review...
So instead of having this display for the holiday season:
Noitce that even the light display that used to be in the planter is missing as well. I guess those were also "obsolete".
And the loss of the smaller lights too....AT LEAST put those up to add to the festivities.:brick:
I am.
Are you kidding?! This was the DISNEY DIFFERENCE! Little DETAILS that were amazing in their scope and effect on the thematic and atmosphere of the park. And now? Gone. We are left with a generic EPCOT.
EXACTLY.
Looking forward to post 201.
It's nice, huh? :lol: We just NEED to continue this momentum...We could be the New Disneyland of the early 2000's, here...
TimNRA757
Member
Just got home from campus and turned on CFNews 13... They didn't say anything new about it other than it's been retired for the same BS reason Disney gave everyone... This could be good though if more media gets wind of this and we can get some editorials going and someone can actually get through to these morons...
Found the link to the story:
http://www.cfnews13.com/Entertainment/HeyJohn/2009/11/12/epcot_pulls_plug_on_holiday_lights.html
Found the link to the story:
http://www.cfnews13.com/Entertainment/HeyJohn/2009/11/12/epcot_pulls_plug_on_holiday_lights.html
Atomicmickey
Well-Known Member
I posted over there, and they approved it. Waiting to see if there is any more response.
I'll be the first to admit it. I don't really give a rip about LoW, personally.
But I am not a Christmas person. They're pretty. I won't be there this year, etc.
However, I am concerned about this precisely because of what they said on MiceAge, about cutting by degrees.
Next time, it could be something that I care about. So it is worth raising a stink over.
LoW is exactly the sort of "extra magic" that Disney does that no other place does. So, yeah, this is important. I also agree that this is a great test to see how Disney deals with this brave new world of social networking. Do they think that 200 posts is significant? Well, there were less than 200 for their tilt-shift video, and they went WOW about that.
So, we'll see.
I'll be the first to admit it. I don't really give a rip about LoW, personally.
But I am not a Christmas person. They're pretty. I won't be there this year, etc.
However, I am concerned about this precisely because of what they said on MiceAge, about cutting by degrees.
Next time, it could be something that I care about. So it is worth raising a stink over.
LoW is exactly the sort of "extra magic" that Disney does that no other place does. So, yeah, this is important. I also agree that this is a great test to see how Disney deals with this brave new world of social networking. Do they think that 200 posts is significant? Well, there were less than 200 for their tilt-shift video, and they went WOW about that.
So, we'll see.
DisneyGurl2000
New Member
http://www.cfnews13.com/Entertainment/HeyJohn/2009/11/12/epcot_pulls_plug_on_holiday_lights.html
Here's some more information. It is sad that it's just another one in a series of cuts.
And what is next???
Here's some more information. It is sad that it's just another one in a series of cuts.
And what is next???
Jasonflz
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What is Disney corporation thinking. Are all of those suits idiots?!? Honestly, a turkey leg could do a better job managing everything than them.
Why in the world would they get rid of Lights of Winter? A bunch of greedy numskulls if you ask me.
And why the sudden need to save money????
They already make a fortune. They should be spending not saving. Sheesh.
fillerup
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For your amusement, some quotes from Bob Iger from the 2008 annual report.
"We will continue to focus on what creates the most value for our shareholders: delivering high-quality creative content and experiences; balancing respect for our legacy with the demand to be innovative; and maintaining the integrity of our people and products."
---From Iger's intro letter to shareholders and CMs.
"The result is yet another theme park experience that distinguishes our Company and causes people to say: “What will they think of next?” or, “Only Disney can do that.”"
---Referencing the opening of Toy Story Mania.
"While we realize perfection is not something that can be delivered all of the time, we at least embrace the value of striving for perfection all of the time."
----Oh really?
"Strategically, we continue to adhere to priorities established a few years ago. A commitment to high-quality creative work, a persistent focus on mastering new technology......."
---Guess that persistent focus hit a bump. (Sentence above edited by me)
"It’s a real honor to uphold the Disney legacy and to continue to create memorable and magical experiences for kids of all ages. Together, we look forward to doing our very best for you every day, everywhere and in every way."
---Big Whoop
"The creative efforts of a high-caliber global team produce transformational experiences and products that connect with audiences on an emotional level. These are experiences of the heart, a part of the Disney Difference that stays with Guests long after they have left the park."
---Yeah, like Lights of Winter connected emotionally and stayed with us, as evidenced by this thread.
All bolding was done by me.
"We will continue to focus on what creates the most value for our shareholders: delivering high-quality creative content and experiences; balancing respect for our legacy with the demand to be innovative; and maintaining the integrity of our people and products."
---From Iger's intro letter to shareholders and CMs.
"The result is yet another theme park experience that distinguishes our Company and causes people to say: “What will they think of next?” or, “Only Disney can do that.”"
---Referencing the opening of Toy Story Mania.
"While we realize perfection is not something that can be delivered all of the time, we at least embrace the value of striving for perfection all of the time."
----Oh really?
"Strategically, we continue to adhere to priorities established a few years ago. A commitment to high-quality creative work, a persistent focus on mastering new technology......."
---Guess that persistent focus hit a bump. (Sentence above edited by me)
"It’s a real honor to uphold the Disney legacy and to continue to create memorable and magical experiences for kids of all ages. Together, we look forward to doing our very best for you every day, everywhere and in every way."
---Big Whoop
"The creative efforts of a high-caliber global team produce transformational experiences and products that connect with audiences on an emotional level. These are experiences of the heart, a part of the Disney Difference that stays with Guests long after they have left the park."
---Yeah, like Lights of Winter connected emotionally and stayed with us, as evidenced by this thread.
All bolding was done by me.
fillerup
Well-Known Member
Oh, and by the way....
Walt Disney shares rose in after-hours trading Thursday after the company reported earnings and revenue that beat analysts' expectations.
The entertainment giant said it earned 46 cents a share excluding one-time items in its fiscal fourth quarter, compared with 43 cents a share this time last year.
Sales for the most recent quarter reached $9.87 billion, up from $9.445 billion in the same period last year.
Walt Disney shares rose in after-hours trading Thursday after the company reported earnings and revenue that beat analysts' expectations.
The entertainment giant said it earned 46 cents a share excluding one-time items in its fiscal fourth quarter, compared with 43 cents a share this time last year.
Sales for the most recent quarter reached $9.87 billion, up from $9.445 billion in the same period last year.
WDW Vacationer
Active Member
:ROFLOL:Needed to vent?
Honestly, a turkey leg could do a better job managing everything than them.
Why in the world would they get rid of Lights of Winter? A bunch of greedy numskulls if you ask me.
And why the sudden need to save money????
They already make a fortune. They should be spending not saving. Sheesh.
That was VERY funny!:ROFLOL:
flFigment
Member
They think that people are upset now wait till they get word of this.
I am so upset that they are discontinuing this and so upset they have now strayed from what being Disney is all about. I am going to write to each board member and then also write Roy Disney and see what he thinks of this. I know this little issue to him would be nothing however it is time for the cuts to stop and for the time period of if we can dream it we can do it to come back. Maybe it is time for another version of the "Disney Decade" BUT I think it is the declining Disney by degrees decade
WDW Vacationer
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Tyler from MA on November 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
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Very dissapointed by this loss. Do you guys realize how many people this is the last straw for? If not I do-MANY! Im not one to complain as I know Disney is a business,but this is just bad. Confirming it on Twitter does not help. Press release please?
What’s that sour taste? Oh,the Lights of Winter were retired because they are “obselete”.
My second comment is awiating moderation.^
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Very dissapointed by this loss. Do you guys realize how many people this is the last straw for? If not I do-MANY! Im not one to complain as I know Disney is a business,but this is just bad. Confirming it on Twitter does not help. Press release please?
What’s that sour taste? Oh,the Lights of Winter were retired because they are “obselete”.
My second comment is awiating moderation.^
Jasonflz
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:lol: Thanks. It's not so much the whole Low thing I'm mad at, just the fact that money saving is not an issue Disney should have. A group of people buying year tickets alone should be enough to pay for LOW.
Jasonflz
Well-Known Member
:lol: A petition might help, no?
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Quoted for truth.
It's been happening for over a decade now.
And while all the resorts have their issues, none have seen the declining by degrees (Kevin Yee's term) that WDW has.
They've all lost things, but they've also ADDED ... in many cases substantial better things.
WDW just keeps chugging on, living off a reputation from say 1971-1996, charging more and giving less.
It's a sad realization when fans get that into their skulls, but it's better than living in perpetual pixie dust.
WDW Vacationer
Active Member
Eh,petitions are less personal.