Rumor Light Rail / Tram Link for Disney Springs to TTC?

[jbolen2]

I don’t think there are many guest that wouldn’t welcome the idea on less buses. We are life time campers and we dread the days we wait on buses to go to the 3 parks vs the boat to MK even though the boat service has gotten slower over the years too.

That’s not the idea.

The idea is to reduce reliance on busses.

 

[Creathir]

My hope: a People Mover based Personal Rapid Transit system.

Hop in your car, select your destination, away you go.

Could be done and expanded to handle capacity relatively easily, and minimizes transfers.

 

[nace888]

My hope: a People Mover based Personal Rapid Transit system.

Hop in your car, select your destination, away you go.

Could be done and expanded to handle capacity relatively easily, and minimizes transfers.

I could see it, but the amount of material needed is what makes me unsure... LHR Airport uses one, but I'm not sure if Disney would want to build a whole huge concrete thing just for that...

 

[mightynine]

Perhaps but not necessarily. A system that’s separated from current roads with above grade crossings.

Some of the areas of the proposed route would take means it would have to be aesthetically pleasing, and be able to travel above ground.

A monorail fits that description to me.

C'mon, let me dream.

 

[Creathir]

I could see it, but the amount of material needed is what makes me unsure... LHR Airport uses one, but I'm not sure if Disney would want to build a whole huge concrete thing just for that...

They don’t have to be elevated except at crossings over existing infrastructure. The rest of the way can be at grade pathways.

LHR’s system showcases this perfectly.

To me this is the ideal type of system.

 

[Brewmaster]

Do any of them involve flinging people through the air...?
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I would much prefer this option to the current evacuation exercise that is exiting Magic Kingdom.

 

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[raymusiccity]

Rickshaws?

Electric autonomous buses

 

[Robbiem]

They don’t have to be elevated except at crossings over existing infrastructure. The rest of the way can be at grade pathways.

LHR’s system showcases this perfectly.

To me this is the ideal type of system.

In london they have also had trials of larger pods in public areas around the O2 dome in greenwich, i think a system could easily operate on Disney’s existing roadways without much additional infrastructure but it would require a big investment in the control technology which could be very expensive

 

[Creathir]

In london they have also had trials of larger pods in public areas around the O2 dome in greenwich, i think a system could easily operate on Disney’s existing roadways without much additional infrastructure but it would require a big investment in the control technology which could be very expensive

While certainly possible, anything on the existing infrastructure, specifically the public roadways, is not really a net win versus the bus system.

I’m sure Disney has forecasting models for the coming decades, and I would imagine they see a roadway based system, shared with public infrastructure, is not going to be sufficient for the future growth.

We see evidence of this in the gondola system and rumors of these discussions.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the long term.

 

[THE Monorail Lime]

Yes they are.

Not to the current TTC.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes they are.

Not to the current TTC.

This is the post here that begins to pass the common sense test.

I don’t see any scenario where the TTC would be expanded at all...it’s outdated and inefficient.

There have been long company fables about moving it...adjusting to a new system and not having it attached to a silly detached parking lot/lake scheme...which probably seemed “cool” in 1965

 

[Corylancaster]

Not that I’m aware of at this time. I’d also hope the distances involved would disuade that systems use for this. But who knows given it is “cheap”. As it stands this won’t be gondolas.

Any chance the system you are talking about is a Peoplemover?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While certainly possible, anything on the existing infrastructure, specifically the public roadways, is not really a net win versus the bus system.

I’m sure Disney has forecasting models for the coming decades, and I would imagine they see a roadway based system, shared with public infrastructure, is not going to be sufficient for the future growth.

We see evidence of this in the gondola system and rumors of these discussions.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the long term.

Agreed...the buses have flexibility and can be limited to save some costs when possible...

But watch the gondola very closely...if it’s cheap and goes off ok (I have doubts)...then you could see them becoming more of a “network”

 

[marni1971]

This it post here that begins to pass the common sense test.

I don’t see any scenario where the TTC would be expanded at all...it’s outdated and inefficient.

There have been long company fables about moving it...adjusting to a new system and not having it attached to a silly detached parking lot/lake scheme...which probably seemed “cool” in 1965

The format to enter the MK will remain. As will the current TTC, in some form. And more or less where it is today in even the most radical proposals.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The format to enter the MK will remain. As will the current TTC, in some form. And more or less where it is today in even the most radical proposals.

Silly...but whatever. A better longterm plan would be to get it out of that mess and reposition for more central access.
But I don’t think we see anything significant until the monorails are gone...which isnt gonna be solved in the short term.

They’re doing transport work...but aren’t eager to sink more capex and longterm expense to move people around.

Why bother when they show up anyway?

 

[TOCPE82]

I am enjoying this expansion and re-think of transportation options. The buses aren't sexy, and greatly contribute to my desire to rent a car.

As a DVC owner who has grown to LOVE staying at AKL, a way to enter AK without needing to ride a bus would be awesome. I really don't care if its a tram, train or even a walking path...

 

[Jon81uk]

Silly...but whatever. A better longterm plan would be to get it out of that mess and reposition for more central access.

Except how can you park cars closer to the MK without filling in the lake? At this point it is almost impossible to change the parking style for the Magic Kingdom.

 

[Master Yoda]

Except how can you park cars closer to the MK without filling in the lake? At this point it is almost impossible to change the parking style for the Magic Kingdom.

Build a new lot on unused land just west of MK.

 

[COProgressFan]

Build a new lot on unused land just west of MK.

But realistically, that lot would sit across Floridian way west of the MK and transportation would still be needed from the lot to the MK entrance because it still would be at best a half mile from the MK entrance. They'd also need a bridge over the canal, massive, expensive road improvements to Floridian way all while the MK parking and tollbooth area is just finishing up a huge overhaul right now with the new overpass, etc. You don't really gain much for such an expenditure.