goofykt
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My favorite part has to be: "See this hand - smooth and steady as a rock. But this is the hand I shoot with *holds up jerky hand*"
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Keep Your Hands Inside The Boat - Alligators
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My favorite part has to be: "See this hand - smooth and steady as a rock. But this is the hand I shoot with *holds up jerky hand*"
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
I more scared of what is swimming with me in the gulf. I completely respect gators and wouldnt go swimming in a canal, but swimming in the ocean is obviously more acceptable and is done way more often.
While fishing last year, I watched a 2-3 foot shark swim past me going down the sandbar about 10 feet away.
He is lucky he only lost his hand.
sbkline
Well-Known Member
Ya, good point. That's the flaw in my theory that I actually thought of later after I posted. :lol:
It's one thing to shoot a skunk or a rat, or some other small pesky critter. But you're right...I'm not sure how to dispose of a 5ft gator, other than trying to push it into the water and having a dead, smelly gator floating around attracting other gators, or calling the authorities to remove the dead gator that I illegally shot. :ROFLOL:
DisneyWeather!
New Member
Don't they have sand beach swim areas in the fresh water lakes at Caribbean Beach Resort?
CarlFredricksen
Active Member
One time at Disney I saw an alligator playing a trumpet, haning out with 2 frogs
DABIGCHEEZ
Well-Known Member
We have seen many gators in our many trips to WDW. Have seen them in many of the canals and waterways, from the train in MK behind Rivers of America, in the lake between Boardwalk and BC, along the waterway at OKW, and I have a video of a small gator at AK in the river in Asia... near EE. We have also seen some snakes at OKW, WL, and very often at both water parks. We have also seen skunks, racoons, armadillos, turkeys, and deer on property.
blm07
Active Member
Why are people swimming in canals and swamps?! (I think last time I heard about a gator took a hand was because they were swimming in a swamp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek
Zummi Gummi
Pioneering the Universe Within!
I live in Illinois and we have plenty of rural farmland here and this is one reason why I would prefer to live out in the country. Because I'm just not used to this concept of having to call the authorities for nuisance animals. I'm more used to the concept of just getting out the gun and shooting the darn thing. :ROFLOL:
My Dad lives out in the country and has found skunks right by his front door, and even saw a bobcat or some sort of wild cat, out in the field one time and I guarantee you he didn't "report" it. Of course, I don't know what Florida is like, as far as if there is much open farmland down there or not. But if I lived down there and lived in an area without neighbors, I can tell you I how *I* would get rid of a big gator in my backyard! :animwink:
And I'm happy to live in a city where that sort of senseless killing is frowned upon. Just this week the parks department herded up about 200 geese and gassed them and people are (rightfully) up in arms.
forevermickey
Well-Known Member
What can be found in the treehouse???? never mind - just read --- BIG SNAKE!
When we stayed at CBR in 2001 they had a little area were you could feed the ducks. They do have beach areas but they also have signs everywhere not to swim.
DisneyWeather!
New Member
Thanks! We stayed there a few years ago in late Nov./Early Dec. and we only hit the pool once and I couldn't remember if you could swim in the lake or not.
_Scar
Active Member
I live in Illinois and we have plenty of rural farmland here and this is one reason why I would prefer to live out in the country. Because I'm just not used to this concept of having to call the authorities for nuisance animals. I'm more used to the concept of just getting out the gun and shooting the darn thing. :ROFLOL:
My Dad lives out in the country and has found skunks right by his front door, and even saw a bobcat or some sort of wild cat, out in the field one time and I guarantee you he didn't "report" it. Of course, I don't know what Florida is like, as far as if there is much open farmland down there or not. But if I lived down there and lived in an area without neighbors, I can tell you I how *I* would get rid of a big gator in my backyard! :animwink:
In Florida there is quite a bit of farmland- citris, tomatos, etc- and quite a bit of rednecks who just want to git-r-done (ugh, rednecks
scum). However, this mentality to take the law into your own hands and shoot whatever you want doesn't quite work here in Florida mainly because it is against the law to shoot an alligator yourself because they are, I think, partially endangered. Same goes for most of Florida wildlife like panthers, bears, etc.
And you say you will just get rid of the gator yourself- but gators are large and intimidating when you're dealing with a monster.
1.) you'll have to wait for them to get out of the water and until the alligator makes its move
2.) they can reach speeds of 35mph on land
3.) death roll, death roll, death roll
4.) steel skin- gun may be useless
They need to be handled by prof. because, in the end, the risk outweighs the reward.
Some of what you said is correct some things not so correct.In Florida there is quite a bit of farmland- citris, tomatos, etc- and quite a bit of rednecks who just want to git-r-done (ugh, rednecks
However, this mentality to take the law into your own hands and shoot whatever you want doesn't quite work here in Florida mainly because it is against the law to shoot an alligator yourself because they are, I think, partially endangered. Same goes for most of Florida wildlife like panthers, bears, etc.
And you say you will just get rid of the gator yourself- but gators are large and intimidating when you're dealing with a monster.
1.) you'll have to wait for them to get out of the water and until the alligator makes its move
2.) they can reach speeds of 35mph on land
3.) death roll, death roll, death roll
4.) steel skin- gun may be useless
They need to be handled by prof. because, in the end, the risk outweighs the reward.
The American alligator was put on the endangers species list back in 1967 but thanks to conservation efforts from numerous agencies the species was considered fully recovered in 1987. Hunting of alligators is now allowed in the state of Florida but it is strictly regulated. Nuisance alligators must be trapped and relocated by one the private contractors licences to do so. Private citizens are not allowed to trap or kill nuisance alligators unless they are in immanent danger. Alligators have a top speed of about 8 or 9 miles per hour but they will reach that speed quite quickly. Any relatively healthy person can out run one with out much effort. On the other hand, out swimming one is another matter entirely. Alligators are ambush predators. Typically people are only attacked when an alligator is defending a nest, the alligator associates humans with food due to feeding, or they are mistaken for prey. Common ways humans are mistaken for prey if they are swimming or running next to the shoreline wearing brightly colored shoes ( it is thought that the alligators mistake the shoes for birds) There skin can be pierced by many common hand guns and any high powered rifle. Alligator bang sticks typically use .357 magnum or .44 caliber hand gun ammunition.
_Scar
Active Member
Yup, you cannot take matters into your own hands unless there is danger. The species is listed as a 'special concern' but can be regulated by the state as to how to handle them.
Also, people are not attacked a lot but pets are- which is my problem. I have seen this alligator actually out of water right by my house after walking my dog. They can and will attack if they feel they can kill.
And I was told the 35 mph fact from a park ranger. Maybe they're the bus drivers of the wildlife community?
scpergj
Well-Known Member
In Florida there is quite a bit of farmland- citris, tomatos, etc- and quite a bit of rednecks who just want to git-r-done (ugh, rednecks
However, this mentality to take the law into your own hands and shoot whatever you want doesn't quite work here in Florida mainly because it is against the law to shoot an alligator yourself because they are, I think, partially endangered. Same goes for most of Florida wildlife like panthers, bears, etc.
And you say you will just get rid of the gator yourself- but gators are large and intimidating when you're dealing with a monster.
1.) you'll have to wait for them to get out of the water and until the alligator makes its move
2.) they can reach speeds of 35mph on land
3.) death roll, death roll, death roll
4.) steel skin- gun may be useless
They need to be handled by prof. because, in the end, the risk outweighs the reward.
Might want to re-think the 'redneck scum' comment. Some of us might find that offensive. Actually, no might to it...I find it extremely offensive.
As for the rest, it show you to be a soft little boy with no outdoors skills.
Before you start the redneck comments, know that I have a B.S. from UNF in Computer Science, my job is writing software (and I'm good at it), and I'm working on my Masters degree in Software Engineering. Might want to re-think your redneck stereotype.
Dwarful
Well-Known Member
Ya, good point. That's the flaw in my theory that I actually thought of later after I posted. :lol:
It's one thing to shoot a skunk or a rat, or some other small pesky critter. But you're right...I'm not sure how to dispose of a 5ft gator, other than trying to push it into the water and having a dead, smelly gator floating around attracting other gators, or calling the authorities to remove the dead gator that I illegally shot. :ROFLOL:
Yeah...can't just leave them by the side of the road..like the road kill deer we have here in Illinois. Instead of counting license plates you can count the deer.
_Scar
Active Member
Why do you refer to yourself as a redneck? Have you no self-pride? What do you even consider a redneck? I consider rednecks are ignorant and racist- they're all around me. I've never really heard someone call themselves a redneck before and be proud of it so I don't think I'm gonna go any further than this. Sorry.
And "as for the rest", sorry buddy that I don't want the gator to eat one of my 2 small dogs alive.
Just wait until you come face to face with one and we'll see your "outdoor skills" come into play.
Challenging me on the gator facts is acceptable because I'm no expert, but really? Really?
sbkline
Well-Known Member
Not that I am gonna try it, nor am in any position to try it, living up here in Illinois, but that's what I figured too. For those people who have said that a gun wouldn't work on a gator's tough skin, I find that hard to believe. Sure, a 22 calliber rifle would probably be like a pellet gun on that thick hide, but there are alot of powerful rifles that can be purchased by the common citizen which can pierce metal, so I'm sure such rifles could easily pierce a gator's skin. I'm sure a deer slug from a good shotgun could do the trick, too.
Additionally, even on an animal with tough skin, like a gator, there are still those unprotected areas which could be more vulnerable. Not that I necessarily would recommend getting this close to a big gator, but if a person was brave (or perhaps foolish) enough to do so, if you fired into his open mouth, there's no thick skin there to protect him. Or his eyes. Or the underbelly. Like I said, I'm not saying I, personally, would try to get that close, or that I recommend it, but I'm sure it wouldn't be quite as hard to get a gator with a gun as what some people make it out to be.